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Re: How pornography became the root of my addiction. [Re: LRG]
    #23914481 - 12/10/16 08:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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LRG said:
Honestly... you're a guy. You like to see women naked. It's in our DNA. You literally CANNOT CHANGE that. Well... unless you're gay and gaping buttholes are disgusting imo.

"What's that you like to see homos naked?" - Joe Dirt.
---> The truth in this statement is really quite profound. Women like seeing guys naked and vice versa. Internet makes it incredibly easy to satisfy that lust.

The problem with porn is it can be unhealthy to a psyche. If that's the only way you can get aroused that's really unhealthy. If you watch... unhealthy porn or the real bad stuff, that's really unhealthy and flat out BAD.

I go to these meetings at a church and these people talk about their addictions and crap. How they're all powerless to change and all that. They rely on Jesus and God to help them. That's all well and good, but the truth is you're are NOT powerless. You have the power to change within yourself.

Take me. I used to be addicted to porn, video games, and smoking weed. What did I do? I woke up one day and decided I didn't want to smoke weed anymore and stopped playing video games so much. I still watch porn, but it's easy disassociate myself from the fantasy that porn IS. I could stop completely but why would I want to? It's just too easy to get that release when you need it. That's what I use it for. Does that make me addicted or is porn simply a simple solution to an inconvenience every now and then.

There's nothing wrong with wanting to look at naked ladies. It's natural. Completely natural, but the real problem is where does your lust take you? I don't spend hours looking at porn. I do my business and carry on with my day. Long day at work, queenie isn't home or feeling up to it, and I'm not about to sit around with my finger up my butt. I'm gonna get mines and be done with it.

If you can disassociate self pleasure and the intimacy of sex... you're not addicted to porn. You're actually very wise and probably dynamite in bed. That's where many find themselves stuck. Many don't have a partner to be intimate with so they encompass themselves with porn and fail to seek out real intimacy with another.

Masturbation is healthy. I think there comes a point where it can be TOO much, but honestly I see nothing wrong with doing it everyday if you don't have someone. That being said, you should exercise self control over those desires, and show yourself you are not powerless. You are POWERFUL.



Masturbation is healthy, watching porn isn't. When you start at such a young age, it becomes more than habitual, but addictive. You weren't addicted to it if you can just wake up one day and not do it, that not how it works. You would say to yourself that night after your done that you wouldn't do it anymore and promise to yourself. Wake up the next day, and say the same thing. until night time comes again, than you somehow convince yourself it's okay. That is what psychological addiction is, and it sucks.


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Re: How pornography became the root of my addiction. [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
    #23916092 - 12/11/16 11:51 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

You can wake up one day and not do it though. Its called taking action. Like I said, you have to recognize the destructive behavior, and then eliminate it. I don't see porn as being destructive, and cannot see any negative effects from it in my own life.

The problem here is that you have developed a perception that porn is unhealthy. It is if you spend hours a day watching it, and forsake other activities in life to watch porn. If all you are doing is getting yourself off at the end of the day, then what exactly is wrong with that?

Furthermore, sometimes my girlfriend and I are on different schedules, and feel urges at different times. So we use porn on our own time to scratch that itch so to speak. It doesn't mean we don't have mind blowing sex when we are both in the mood at the same time.

Different strokes for different folks. :shrug:

Any activity has the potential for harm when done in excess.


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Re: How pornography became the root of my addiction. [Re: egobrain]
    #23916207 - 12/11/16 12:41 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

That is like saying you can smoke weed like 10 times a day for a few years, and wake up one day and stop. Doesn't happen. You convince yourself you can do it and just one more time. I'm sure a lot of people will agree with me on that.

For pornography, if you start at such a young age and it becomes so habitual, you simply can't wake up one day and not do it. You feel physical urges.


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Re: How pornography became the root of my addiction. [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
    #23916352 - 12/11/16 01:40 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Like I said, if you do something in excess it can cause harm.

Sure, I use cannabis everyday, but not when its going to be detrimental to my performance of something (work, school, studying, certain social engagements).
Likewise, one has to use porn in a healthy way as well. If you are viewing porn on your phone randomly during the day, or using it multiple times a day, than it probably is causing harm.

Just because something is habitual, doesn't automatically mean its harmful. You can watch porn and do drugs, but you have to be mindful and have some self control. You aren't a teenager anymore so why keep using that as an excuse?


Edited by egobrain (12/11/16 01:45 PM)


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Re: How pornography became the root of my addiction. [Re: egobrain] * 1
    #23917639 - 12/11/16 07:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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egobrain said:
Like I said, if you do something in excess it can cause harm.

Sure, I use cannabis everyday, but not when its going to be detrimental to my performance of something (work, school, studying, certain social engagements).
Likewise, one has to use porn in a healthy way as well. If you are viewing porn on your phone randomly during the day, or using it multiple times a day, than it probably is causing harm.

Just because something is habitual, doesn't automatically mean its harmful. You can watch porn and do drugs, but you have to be mindful and have some self control. You aren't a teenager anymore so why keep using that as an excuse?



If you would read my posts entirely, i am saying something like porn being psychologically addicted to it, as you can anything that releases a lot of dopamine, opens the door for addiction to grab you easier. I am not making excuses for anything. I have admitted i used both habitually. I also said i'm not blaming either of these substances, porn in moderation is not harmful, neither is cannabis.
If you haven't been addicted to anything (which you clearly haven't or else you would understand) you just won't get it man.
I already had an addictive personality, i was just sharing a story of how me and porn affected it.


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Re: How pornography became the root of my addiction. [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
    #23918307 - 12/12/16 12:05 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

It's not just porn it's a whole bardo. It's own archetypal circuit. UG Krishamurti said he never viewed porn and I think he was was a virgin, when he had tons of graphic sexual visions during his 'non-attainment.'


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Re: How pornography became the root of my addiction. [Re: Middleman] * 1
    #23918513 - 12/12/16 03:17 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

"Masturbation is healthy, watching porn isn't. When you start at such a young age, it becomes more than habitual, but addictive. You weren't addicted to it if you can just wake up one day and not do it, that not how it works. You would say to yourself that night after your done that you wouldn't do it anymore and promise to yourself. Wake up the next day, and say the same thing. until night time comes again, than you somehow convince yourself it's okay. That is what psychological addiction is, and it sucks."

Addiction is only as strong as your mind allows it to be. I hate the "you are powerless over your addiction" crap. I really don't like it. If you choose not to do it for a few weeks GREAT. That just proves you DO HAVE THE POWER over your "addiction." If you go back to the stuff then really all it proves is that you're human. It doesn't mean you're powerless or what you are doing is "wrong." Are you really going to go the rest of your life not watching porn, having a few beers, smoking a couple joints? FUCK THAT! Life is short. Watch some naked ladies eat each other out, get wasted with your friends on the back porch, go smoke some weed in the field under the stars with your best friend. There is beauty in everything.

Being addicted to recovery is literally the worst addiction there is. I would rather be addicted to small pleasures in life than trying to overcome every urge and supposed bad thing.


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"Each tear is a drop of poison released." - Anonymous

"Could it be you're afraid of what your friends might say if they knew you believe in God above? They should realize before they criticize that God is the only way to Love."


Edited by LRG (12/12/16 03:17 AM)


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Re: How pornography became the root of my addiction. [Re: LRG]
    #23918639 - 12/12/16 05:37 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

:keyboardwarrior:


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Re: How pornography became the root of my addiction. [Re: LRG]
    #23919600 - 12/12/16 01:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

LRG said:
"Masturbation is healthy, watching porn isn't. When you start at such a young age, it becomes more than habitual, but addictive. You weren't addicted to it if you can just wake up one day and not do it, that not how it works. You would say to yourself that night after your done that you wouldn't do it anymore and promise to yourself. Wake up the next day, and say the same thing. until night time comes again, than you somehow convince yourself it's okay. That is what psychological addiction is, and it sucks."

Addiction is only as strong as your mind allows it to be. I hate the "you are powerless over your addiction" crap. I really don't like it. If you choose not to do it for a few weeks GREAT. That just proves you DO HAVE THE POWER over your "addiction." If you go back to the stuff then really all it proves is that you're human. It doesn't mean you're powerless or what you are doing is "wrong." Are you really going to go the rest of your life not watching porn, having a few beers, smoking a couple joints? FUCK THAT! Life is short. Watch some naked ladies eat each other out, get wasted with your friends on the back porch, go smoke some weed in the field under the stars with your best friend. There is beauty in everything.

Being addicted to recovery is literally the worst addiction there is. I would rather be addicted to small pleasures in life than trying to overcome every urge and supposed bad thing.




A FUCKING MEN brother.

:hi5:

If OP read my first post he would see that I used myself as an example of someone who took charge of their life. I absolutely hate everything about the  "powerless over your addiction" bullshit, the mentality people have that they are "once and addict, always an addict". Bull fucking shit. People really need to grow a pair and stop playing the victim.


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Re: How pornography became the root of my addiction. [Re: egobrain]
    #23920148 - 12/12/16 03:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

That keyboard warrior GIF is hilarious.

Anyway, I'm quitting porn. I'm fucking doing it. I think it made me into a bit of a freakazoid as far as my attitude to sex goes.


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Re: How pornography became the root of my addiction. [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23920368 - 12/12/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

No one in this thread besides me has commented on the fact that porn actresses almost never actually want to be doing porn. I suppose maybe a few of the big stars like it, but most of them are anonymous, exploited, likely enslaved (human trafficking victims) human beings being used as sex objects to appease the base desires of egotistical losers. What fucking fun is it if you know they're not only not enjoying it, but actively suffering? The same lack of empathy is what drives rape. Females definitely have the moral high ground here as very few of us watch porn whereas most males do.


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Re: How pornography became the root of my addiction. [Re: Alyssa] * 1
    #23920478 - 12/12/16 05:59 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Alyssa said:
No one in this thread besides me has commented on the fact that porn actresses almost never actually want to be doing porn. I suppose maybe a few of the big stars like it, but most of them are anonymous, exploited, likely enslaved (human trafficking victims) human beings being used as sex objects to appease the base desires of egotistical losers. What fucking fun is it if you know they're not only not enjoying it, but actively suffering? The same lack of empathy is what drives rape. Females definitely have the moral high ground here as very few of us watch porn whereas most males do.




So, explain why so many women love "play" rape or "rough" sex?  I don't get it, so don't ask me.  Explain it if you can, what drives rape?  I doubt you can, because you can't really fathom it.


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Re: How pornography became the root of my addiction. [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #23920705 - 12/12/16 07:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Alyssa said:
No one in this thread besides me has commented on the fact that porn actresses almost never actually want to be doing porn. I suppose maybe a few of the big stars like it, but most of them are anonymous, exploited, likely enslaved (human trafficking victims) human beings being used as sex objects to appease the base desires of egotistical losers. What fucking fun is it if you know they're not only not enjoying it, but actively suffering? The same lack of empathy is what drives rape. Females definitely have the moral high ground here as very few of us watch porn whereas most males do.




So, explain why so many women love "play" rape or "rough" sex?  I don't get it, so don't ask me.  Explain it if you can, what drives rape?  I doubt you can, because you can't really fathom it.



If the activity is consensual, it's not rape, no matter what it consists of. Rape is driven by the idea that females are objects to be used to satisfy the male sex drive and that every male is entitled to sex. A rapist thinks "how dare she say no, I'm going to make her mine by force because it's my right to do what I want with her".


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Re: How pornography became the root of my addiction. [Re: Alyssa] * 1
    #23920966 - 12/12/16 08:40 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Alyssa said:
No one in this thread besides me has commented on the fact that porn actresses almost never actually want to be doing porn. I suppose maybe a few of the big stars like it, but most of them are anonymous, exploited, likely enslaved (human trafficking victims) human beings being used as sex objects to appease the base desires of egotistical losers. What fucking fun is it if you know they're not only not enjoying it, but actively suffering? The same lack of empathy is what drives rape. Females definitely have the moral high ground here as very few of us watch porn whereas most males do.



HAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAH

HAHA

HA

Wow. Never thought i would come across someone who actually believes this. None of them are human trafficking slaves unless you buy that shit off of black market stuff.

Go watch casting couch.

None of them are anonymous. They ALL have social media accounts of them doing a lot more than porn.

Nice try, though.

Just wondering, what's your IQ?


Edited by Ancestoralbeings (12/12/16 08:41 PM)


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Re: How pornography became the root of my addiction. [Re: Ancestoralbeings] * 2
    #23921242 - 12/12/16 10:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

:canthelpbutlaugh:

You actually believe that?

How do you explain all the amateur sites where people have accounts and upload their own stuff for no monetary gain?


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Re: How pornography became the root of my addiction. [Re: egobrain]
    #23922487 - 12/13/16 12:20 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I actually believe porn is a good thing.

But it can get addictive if you combine with massive female rejection. Because you will drain your frustration on hardcore and agressive porn. Because mans need female attention to build in their core of manhood porn only substitutes the fantasy part and thus makes you less of a man.

I can be wrong but in order to have the will to do things people have to get some real stuff in their reach, and porn doesnt make you think that you could really get it.

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Re: How pornography became the root of my addiction. [Re: Spiralspider]
    #23922739 - 12/13/16 01:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I actually believe porn is a good thing.

But it can get addictive if you combine with massive female rejection. Because you will drain your frustration on hardcore and agressive porn. Because mans need female attention to build in their core of manhood porn only substitutes the fantasy part and thus makes you less of a man.

I can be wrong but in order to have the will to do things people have to get some real stuff in their reach, and porn doesnt make you think that you could really get it.

hehe




Amen brother, aFUCKINGmen. Couldn't of said it better myself.

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That is like saying you can smoke weed like 10 times a day for a few years, and wake up one day and stop. Doesn't happen. You convince yourself you can do it and just one more time. I'm sure a lot of people will agree with me on that.




I did. I smoked like a fiend. Been dabbing for 3 years+smoked weed nearly everyday since I was 15 and one day I woke up and stopped. I could crush  2 grams of medicinal grade oil a day and still function, expensive habit.

Night sweats sucked, but I got over them. Tell me it's not possible to stop cold turkey? It absolutely is that fucking easy dude. Will I never smoke again the rest of my life? Definitely not. I know I will, but right now it's just not the best thing for me nor a priority of mine to get high or do any drugs.


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"Each tear is a drop of poison released." - Anonymous

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Edited by LRG (12/13/16 01:47 PM)


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Re: How pornography became the root of my addiction. [Re: LRG]
    #23924370 - 12/13/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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LRG said:
Quote:

Spiralspider said:
I actually believe porn is a good thing.

But it can get addictive if you combine with massive female rejection. Because you will drain your frustration on hardcore and agressive porn. Because mans need female attention to build in their core of manhood porn only substitutes the fantasy part and thus makes you less of a man.

I can be wrong but in order to have the will to do things people have to get some real stuff in their reach, and porn doesnt make you think that you could really get it.

hehe




Amen brother, aFUCKINGmen. Couldn't of said it better myself.

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That is like saying you can smoke weed like 10 times a day for a few years, and wake up one day and stop. Doesn't happen. You convince yourself you can do it and just one more time. I'm sure a lot of people will agree with me on that.




I did. I smoked like a fiend. Been dabbing for 3 years+smoked weed nearly everyday since I was 15 and one day I woke up and stopped. I could crush  2 grams of medicinal grade oil a day and still function, expensive habit.

Night sweats sucked, but I got over them. Tell me it's not possible to stop cold turkey? It absolutely is that fucking easy dude. Will I never smoke again the rest of my life? Definitely not. I know I will, but right now it's just not the best thing for me nor a priority of mine to get high or do any drugs.




Night sweats are real! I couldn't believe it the first time I quit weed cold turkey.


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Re: How pornography became the root of my addiction. [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
    #23925366 - 12/14/16 09:35 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Alyssa said:
Why have I never felt the desire to watch porn? Are the immense amounts of dopamine supposedly associated with it specific to the male brain? My libido is very high, I just think porn is trash. It exploits females, many of whom are victims of human trafficking (although this is mostly in the third world, it does happen in America) or coerced in other ways.



You think if a male is raped by a female perp it's not rape.
Stop posting on my threads, no one takes anything you say seriously.




Where's the female rape thread?  I want to get in on that.  If ya'll think a male being raped by a female is the same as the reverse, I'd like to hear the thought process behind that.  Not saying that this form of rape doesn't exist, just that it's definitely not the same as being forcefully penetrated.

But to comment on topic, porn addiction can be as detrimental to your mental state as drug addiction.  I don't think it's 'repressed American thinking' to believe that.


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Re: How pornography became the root of my addiction. [Re: unfortunategent] * 1
    #23926435 - 12/14/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

How is it not the same? Do you really think all men are just sex crazed animals all the time? Females rape males. It is just as bad as a male raping a female.


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