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Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences 1
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http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/virtual-reality-new-drug-microsoft-predicts-vr-could-offer-lsd-like-hallucinogenic-experiences-1595591
Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences Researchers predict technology in 2027 could see VR head in a new direction. By James Billington December 8, 2016 18:26 GMT
Microsoft has predicted that in 10 years virtual reality will become so powerful and immersive that it will be able to take users on mind-bending, hallucinogenic trips.
Seventeen Microsoft Researchers took part in a spot of future-gazing by predicting what advancements in technology will be like across their fields in 2027. They described everything from AI becoming more advanced and human-like to autonomy giving rise to a new economy but the vision of VR offering an experience akin to acid-dropping was an eye-opener.
Mar Gonzalez Franco, a researcher at MSR NExT – Microsoft's commercial development unit working on interesting projects at Redmond – revealed that the key advance of VR in 2027 will "provide such rich multisensorial experiences that will be capable of producing hallucinations which blend or alter perceived reality".
"In contrast to current virtual reality systems that only stimulate visual and auditory senses, in the future the experience will expand to other sensory modalities including tactile with haptic devices," she added.
We're only just beginning to scratch the surface on the potential for virtual reality and while we're seeing innovative uses beginning to germinate in the fields of gaming, medicine and engineering there's every possibility users could swap high scores for getting high through drug-free, state-of-mind-skewing, VR.
Franco explains that this technology, for perhaps more productive purposes could allow humans in 2027 to "retrain, recalibrate and improve their perceptual systems".
While VR is relatively nascent in 2016, it has gone through a rapid transformation from final development stages to landing on consumers faces within a few short months. We're only just beginning to see the potential of VR and it's still fairly clunky. Give it another 10 years and it could become unrecognisable – just think about what mobile phones could do this time 10 years ago.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: Tripsahoy420]
#23908207 - 12/08/16 07:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mmmmm...
No.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
#23908310 - 12/08/16 08:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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LuSiD enthusiast said: Mmmmm...
No.
No what? 
Your saying VR won't be the next LSD? Keep in mind 100 years ago if you had tried to explain LSD to anyone they would have put you in a nut house.
Who knows where VR will be in 10 years, it very possibly could expand into other sensations by then and allow for very immersive/ intense experiences.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: musiclover420] 2
#23908896 - 12/09/16 12:03 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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VR will never be LSD. It will never affect your mind the way LSD will. Nor any other psychedelic for that matter. You can make it look like it, feel like it, but it wont be it.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: xthrx]
#23908963 - 12/09/16 12:37 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Obviously virtual reality could only be a visual thing.
Think about virtual reality ON LSD
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
#23909023 - 12/09/16 01:41 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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MinnesnowtaNice said: Obviously virtual reality could only be a visual thing.
Think about virtual reality ON LSD

That i can get behind.
Vr will never be a drug i can take, leave the house and explore the real world. The physical sensations are half the trip (more like 70% personally). Using the same vr program time and time again would get repetitive (i guess you can argus acid does, but acid ime takes well over a hundred trips to feel familiar, vr no matter what would feel similar after you see each visual once each)
Don't get me wrong, vr could be tripy as hell. I really want to get a vr headset and drop some acid and combine the two. But no matter what that mindfuck will not be there.
If it were, lawmakers would be banning it.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: musiclover420]
#23909223 - 12/09/16 06:05 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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musiclover420 said: Your saying VR won't be the next LSD? Keep in mind 100 years ago if you had tried to explain LSD to anyone they would have put you in a nut house.
Hm... no. Psychedelics are older than LSD. There is mushrooms and cacti to compare the experience to.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: Tiamo]
#23909356 - 12/09/16 07:40 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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How does microsoft plan to give people the euphoria? Closed eye visuals? Dissociation?
Why do so many people think tripping is seeing dinosaurs and shit lmao. Most the time I trip I only see trails unless I close my eyes and visualize shit.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: MollyLucyMaryJane]
#23909395 - 12/09/16 07:55 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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MollyLucyMaryJane said: How does microsoft plan to give people the euphoria? Closed eye visuals? Dissociation?
Why do so many people think tripping is seeing dinosaurs and shit lmao. Most the time I trip I only see trails unless I close my eyes and visualize shit.
Tripping would be lame as hell if that's all it were.
I mean... I'd do that shit every day because :insertdancingtrexhere: DINOSAURS!!!! But i would still need an acid substitute
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
#23911605 - 12/09/16 09:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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If Only Terence McKenna were alive to see this article He called this over 20 years ago.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: WackyWizard]
#23911621 - 12/09/16 09:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I seriously doubt this.
Ya video games that can expand your consciousness aye lmao....
Thats like going to aa then having a beer on the way home lol
What a crock of crap
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: MollyLucyMaryJane]
#23911636 - 12/09/16 09:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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xthrx said: VR will never be LSD. It will never affect your mind the way LSD will. Nor any other psychedelic for that matter. You can make it look like it, feel like it, but it wont be it.

No one is saying VR IS LSD they are saying it may be the new LSD which is entirely possible.
Like I said if you tried to explain LSD to someone 100 years ago you would be in for a serious challenge and most people wouldn't believe you.
VR is a new and evolving technology so we have no idea where it will end up.
This article is talking about VR incorporating other senses aside from vision which is completely possible.
If VR could look/feel exactly like a psychedelic experience then what would you call it? A non drug induced psychedelic experience I would say...
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musiclover420 said: Your saying VR won't be the next LSD? Keep in mind 100 years ago if you had tried to explain LSD to anyone they would have put you in a nut house.
Hm... no. Psychedelics are older than LSD. There is mushrooms and cacti to compare the experience to.
Yes but 100 years ago most people were not even aware of LSD or mushrooms, some have been for thousands of years clearly but not the majority of people.
You would be hard pressed to compare a drug that didn't yet exist with drugs very little people had even heard of at the time much less experienced 
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MollyLucyMaryJane said: How does microsoft plan to give people the euphoria? Closed eye visuals? Dissociation?
Why do so many people think tripping is seeing dinosaurs and shit lmao. Most the time I trip I only see trails unless I close my eyes and visualize shit.
I would assume something along the lines of electrical brain stimulation, pretty soon we will be able to stimulate specific parts of the brain artificially.
Maybe we will even have some form of cyborg soon where brains are completely connected to computers and entirely controllable.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: Tripsahoy420]
#23912042 - 12/10/16 02:33 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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It would be close enough. I'm waiting for a micro and macro cosmic experience. You need something immersive and perspective changing. It beats IMAX.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: MikeTesserect]
#23912083 - 12/10/16 03:25 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think Dr. Strange was it, visually. I still think it would be different than chemically induced hallucinations. If people used to spend 12 hours on Yahoo Messenger back in the day, then anything visually stimulating can be as hypnotic. I've just seen a Christmas lighting, one of those that make colors appear on the surface of your house, and they look visually hypnotic. If smells (as in aromatherapy) can induce euphoria, then I would assume visuals can too as anything we see does "register" in the brain, as much as music can create a different kind of high. They shouldn't call this hallucination but something else. Stimulation?
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: Tripsahoy420]
#23912242 - 12/10/16 06:04 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have no doubt that I could trip without using drugs. VR would probably make this easier under curtain circumstances. As for LSD... VR could possibly put me in an identical state of mind for some indefinite amount of time. Its just a matter of circumstance. As far as I'm concerned, people who argue a constant dissimilarity between drug effects and state of mind do not really understand the mind to begin with.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: Raven44]
#23912340 - 12/10/16 07:27 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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LuSiD enthusiast said:
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MinnesnowtaNice said: Obviously virtual reality could only be a visual thing.
Think about virtual reality ON LSD

That i can get behind.
Vr will never be a drug i can take, leave the house and explore the real world. The physical sensations are half the trip (more like 70% personally). Using the same vr program time and time again would get repetitive (i guess you can argus acid does, but acid ime takes well over a hundred trips to feel familiar, vr no matter what would feel similar after you see each visual once each)
Don't get me wrong, vr could be tripy as hell. I really want to get a vr headset and drop some acid and combine the two. But no matter what that mindfuck will not be there.
If it were, lawmakers would be banning it.
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Raven44 said: I seriously doubt this.
Ya video games that can expand your consciousness aye lmao....
Thats like going to aa then having a beer on the way home lol
What a crock of crap
I don't think you all get it. You can induce altered states by manipulating what a person's sensory input. There have been studies where they alternate flashing lights at people with various auditory and/or tactile inputs and achieve altered states of consciousness.
It's not simply going to be an Alice in Wonderland visual imagery you'd be seeing if they attempted to implement this.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: Hobbyist]
#23912349 - 12/10/16 07:33 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh I get it, I coukd imagine myself how it'd work via sensory input and frequency emitted before anyone explained.
Still doesn't change the fact that I would never choose to believe in such a thing.
Unless your programming the frequency yourself lmao... even then if you had one of these and offered to let me try it out for free I'd tell ya go fuck yourself.
And most likely never return lol
I gave up playing video games a long time ago so this idea as not amusing to me in the slightest. Its sad if u see that collective unconsciousness is what drives it. Otherwise there would be no need. No desire.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: Raven44]
#23912483 - 12/10/16 08:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I understand not trusting an experience like that that someone else created, but it's not like programming/mind control in the traditional sense as I understand it. I'd likely give it a whirl for novelty.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: Hobbyist] 1
#23912714 - 12/10/16 10:37 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I refuse to believe you could mimic any psychedelic with virtual reality.
But tell us more how we don't understand our minds.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
#23912813 - 12/10/16 11:27 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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MinnesnowtaNice said: I refuse to believe you could mimic any psychedelic with virtual reality.
But tell us more how we don't understand our minds.
You realize psychedelics are just catalysts that cause specific effects in the brain right? These effects can be induced without drugs as well through meditation and "vision quests" which people have been doing for thousands of years.
What is so hard to grasp about a similiar electrically induced experience?...
Also keep in mind there are many hallucinogens and their effects vary greatly.
So a psychedelic VR experience might not be identical to traditional experiences but it could still create a unique similar experience.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: musiclover420]
#23912829 - 12/10/16 11:32 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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musiclover420 said:
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MinnesnowtaNice said: I refuse to believe you could mimic any psychedelic with virtual reality.
But tell us more how we don't understand our minds.
You realize psychedelics are just catalysts that cause specific effects in the brain right? These effects can be induced without drugs as well through meditation and "vision quests" which people have been doing for thousands of years.
What is so hard to grasp about a similiar electrically induced experience?...
Also keep in mind there are many hallucinogens and their effects vary greatly.
So a psychedelic VR experience might not be identical to traditional experiences but it could still create a unique similar experience.
This is no different than the stupid "bi-neural sensory" tracks that cost hundreds of dollars that "totally work" that you can find on youtube.
Spoiler alert: THEY DON'T work (as advertised)
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
#23913503 - 12/10/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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LuSiD enthusiast said: This is no different than the stupid "bi-neural sensory" tracks that cost hundreds of dollars that "totally work" that you can find on youtube.
Spoiler alert: THEY DON'T work (as advertised)

If you think VR is the same as those audio tracks that are supposed to get you high you are on crack 
Especially multi sensory VR which is what this article is about...
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: Tripsahoy420]
#23913591 - 12/10/16 03:59 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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VR will be a huge downfall for mankind.
nerds are going to live in a virtual world . they will find it easier to manipulate and alter that reality rather than real life. soon people will be hooked up to feeding tube with a shit tube in the other end. it wont be long before they are plugged into it 24/7.
it will dramatically cut down on people pumping out litters of kids though. hopefully. im sure God is going to send Jesus down here before that happens though.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: sprinkles]
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sprinkles said: VR will be a huge downfall for mankind.
nerds are going to live in a virtual world . they will find it to be easier to manipulate and alter that reality rather than real life. soon people will be hooked up to feeding tube with a shit tube in the other end. it wont be long before they are plugged into it 24/7.
it will dramatically cut down on people pumping out litters of kids though. hopefully. im sure God is going to send Jesus down here before that happens though.
How will people afford the expensive/ fancy modern VR equipment and life support to stay alive in VR 24/7?
Seems like only the most successful people will be able to afford it at first. Eventually once it becomes common/ cheaper I could see VR prisons being a thing.
There are an infinite amount of useful applications for VR though just like with the internet. Sure some people will abuse it but that is true of everything
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: musiclover420]
#23913637 - 12/10/16 04:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I dont care really. more and more people that stay inside their homes the better.
i see men who lack the ability to get laid living more inside a virtual world of porn. porn is already an epidemic and it will just get worse and worse. its all good though. the less people i have to come into contact with and be exposed to, the better.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: musiclover420]
#23913928 - 12/10/16 05:13 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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LuSiD enthusiast said: This is no different than the stupid "bi-neural sensory" tracks that cost hundreds of dollars that "totally work" that you can find on youtube.
Spoiler alert: THEY DON'T work (as advertised)

If you think VR is the same as those audio tracks that are supposed to get you high you are on crack 
Especially multi sensory VR which is what this article is about...
It's the exaxt same concept as VR,just flash images and sounds to push buttons in your brain.
If you think this is possible then why haven't we seen articles about "4k being the new lsd"? Because 4k isn't as cool, it's old, out of reach for most people which means people click less when they see it.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
#23913990 - 12/10/16 05:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You still seem to not have not grasped that this article is about MULTI SENSORY VR... Who knows how far it will go as the technology develops...
It will most likely start with touch/ physical sensation but eventually who knows what it will be capable of. We could create fully immersive worlds where anything is possible. VR isn't just about "flashing images and sounds" it is about literally creating a virtual reality. If you can't grasp the many amazing possibilities there you are being close minded and will most likely miss out in the long run.
Assuming we even live to see this technology fully come into fruition.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: sprinkles]
#23914866 - 12/10/16 11:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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sprinkles said: I dont care really. more and more people that stay inside their homes the better.
i see men who lack the ability to get laid living more inside a virtual world of porn. porn is already an epidemic and it will just get worse and worse. its all good though. the less people i have to come into contact with and be exposed to, the better.
The irony and truth with in that statement is to much
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: musiclover420]
#23914873 - 12/10/16 11:09 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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sprinkles said: VR will be a huge downfall for mankind.
nerds are going to live in a virtual world . they will find it to be easier to manipulate and alter that reality rather than real life. soon people will be hooked up to feeding tube with a shit tube in the other end. it wont be long before they are plugged into it 24/7.
it will dramatically cut down on people pumping out litters of kids though. hopefully. im sure God is going to send Jesus down here before that happens though.
How will people afford the expensive/ fancy modern VR equipment and life support to stay alive in VR 24/7?
Seems like only the most successful people will be able to afford it at first. Eventually once it becomes common/ cheaper I could see VR prisons being a thing.
There are an infinite amount of useful applications for VR though just like with the internet. Sure some people will abuse it but that is true of everything 
Now There's an idea. Vr prisons. Makes me wonder what fucked up interrogation tactics the givernment may be planning with all this.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
#23914948 - 12/10/16 11:36 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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MinnesnowtaNice said: I refuse to believe you could mimic any psychedelic with virtual reality.
But tell us more how we don't understand our minds.
Not trying to argue for the sake of it but are you being serious? Because I don't think anyone actually understands the human mind fully.
At any rate it seems like a neat idea for people that want to experience something different but are nervous about drugs or chemical means of altered perception. The fact is technology is much more comfortable and easier to accept to most people.
Personally I have always enjoyed nature on traditional psychedelics but I have had loads of fun watching good movies or playing video games or even just reading news stories while on dissociatives like mxe and ketamine. Loads of fun if you ask me and VR just seems like it would go great with dissociation.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
#23914960 - 12/10/16 11:41 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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musiclover420 said:
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sprinkles said: VR will be a huge downfall for mankind.
nerds are going to live in a virtual world . they will find it to be easier to manipulate and alter that reality rather than real life. soon people will be hooked up to feeding tube with a shit tube in the other end. it wont be long before they are plugged into it 24/7.
it will dramatically cut down on people pumping out litters of kids though. hopefully. im sure God is going to send Jesus down here before that happens though.
How will people afford the expensive/ fancy modern VR equipment and life support to stay alive in VR 24/7?
Seems like only the most successful people will be able to afford it at first. Eventually once it becomes common/ cheaper I could see VR prisons being a thing.
There are an infinite amount of useful applications for VR though just like with the internet. Sure some people will abuse it but that is true of everything 
Now There's an idea. Vr prisons. Makes me wonder what fucked up interrogation tactics the givernment may be planning with all this.
They have an episode of the (newer version) Outer Limits about that. I wont spoil it but the idea is intriguing...
Also who is to say we are not already part of a simulation? It sounds crazy but there are serious scientists that acknowledge this as a possibility.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: niteman]
#23916203 - 12/11/16 12:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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As McKenna once stated: "the only difference between drugs and computers is one to big to swallow."
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: Tmethyl]
#23916270 - 12/11/16 01:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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For my it's been very hard to accomplish what I could get from Psilcybin or especially DMT with meditation.
And vise versa. I don't think they are the same thing at all and I do both quite a bit.
Astral projection and lucid dreaming are even way far off from psychedelic drug states and meditation in my experience.
I think that maybe they all get you to the same type of consciousness or hyper aware consciousness But are completely different in my experience.
I'm not saying I'm right and in a few years if these VR headsets can get me to the same place as DMT or mushrooms or even meditation will without having to sit in silence and tap into the inner spirit Then by all means your welcome to rub my face in it.
Until then this is all speculation.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
#23916314 - 12/11/16 01:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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But I would like to apologize for coming off like a condescending asshat
That wasn't my intention, I was kinda in a bad mood on Friday.
Absolutely could understand how it could mimic it and in some ways maybe even work better than traditional methods of expanding consciousness, I just don't see how it could be spot on to an LSD trip.
I will admit I don't know very much about neorobiology and am interested in this,
My apologies MusicLover.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: musiclover420]
#23916519 - 12/11/16 02:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Your saying VR won't be the next LSD? Keep in mind 100 years ago if you had tried to explain LSD to anyone they would have put you in a nut house.
They had a concept of pink elephants.
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Who knows where VR will be in 10 years, it very possibly could expand into other sensations by then and allow for very immersive/ intense experiences.
I think we're describing this, in terms of ordinary brainwaves, and not hypnotic stimuli.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
#23916762 - 12/11/16 03:59 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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niteman said: They have an episode of the (newer version) Outer Limits about that. I wont spoil it but the idea is intriguing...
Also who is to say we are not already part of a simulation? It sounds crazy but there are serious scientists that acknowledge this as a possibility.
I honestly believe it is very possible we are already in a simulation, check out this video:
Civilizations at the End of Time: Black Hole Farming
I believe that is the video I am thinking of, the guy explains it so well it makes complete sense and seems entirely possible to me.
It may be a bit hard to digest as it is very technical and theoretical but what made me think of it is one of the topics is an advanced civilization living near the end of the universe would be better off living inside a complex matrix of simulations. So even if we aren't in a simulation it is very possible we will be one day assuming we make it that far 
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MinnesnowtaNice said: But I would like to apologize for coming off like a condescending asshat
That wasn't my intention, I was kinda in a bad mood on Friday.
Absolutely could understand how it could mimic it and in some ways maybe even work better than traditional methods of expanding consciousness, I just don't see how it could be spot on to an LSD trip.
I will admit I don't know very much about neorobiology and am interested in this,
My apologies MusicLover.
No problem man, I just have high hopes for this technology and the near infinite possibilities it will create so I hate to see it written off.
Once again this article isn't saying VR will be the same as LSD it is saying it is the NEW LSD in the mental possibilities it opens.
Hell VR could surpass psychedelics in some ways as everything will be entirely programmable so in theory you could create your own experiences/ sensations.
Also as has been said VR and drugs will no doubt go hand in hand. Imagine creating your own world where anything is possible to then take drugs in
You could go snowboarding down mount Everest or go jump around on the moon in your underwear or go deep sea diving. Pretty much anything will be possible.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: musiclover420]
#23916900 - 12/11/16 04:33 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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This was in a Batman movie and one about the book of Revelation.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: musiclover420]
#24255704 - 04/18/17 10:34 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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any companies selling VR's right now?
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: xthrx]
#24256230 - 04/19/17 05:38 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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xthrx said: VR will never be LSD. It will never affect your mind the way LSD will.
I agree.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: Niffla]
#24256784 - 04/19/17 10:02 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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xthrx said: VR will never be LSD. It will never affect your mind the way LSD will.
I agree.
I think VR could surpass psychedelics in some ways. If we figure out how to better control our brains via electronics anything is possible.
One day it might be possible to cause near identical effects in the brain via drugs or electrical signals designed to mimic the effects of drugs.
VR could combine elements of sensory deprivation with precise controllable brain stimuli for an entirely new level of immersive experiences.
Of course taking drugs and using VR may always be the best of both worlds depending on how quickly we learn how to control our brains electronically.
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