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Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences 1
#23908166 - 12/08/16 07:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/virtual-reality-new-drug-microsoft-predicts-vr-could-offer-lsd-like-hallucinogenic-experiences-1595591
Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences Researchers predict technology in 2027 could see VR head in a new direction. By James Billington December 8, 2016 18:26 GMT
Microsoft has predicted that in 10 years virtual reality will become so powerful and immersive that it will be able to take users on mind-bending, hallucinogenic trips.
Seventeen Microsoft Researchers took part in a spot of future-gazing by predicting what advancements in technology will be like across their fields in 2027. They described everything from AI becoming more advanced and human-like to autonomy giving rise to a new economy but the vision of VR offering an experience akin to acid-dropping was an eye-opener.
Mar Gonzalez Franco, a researcher at MSR NExT – Microsoft's commercial development unit working on interesting projects at Redmond – revealed that the key advance of VR in 2027 will "provide such rich multisensorial experiences that will be capable of producing hallucinations which blend or alter perceived reality".
"In contrast to current virtual reality systems that only stimulate visual and auditory senses, in the future the experience will expand to other sensory modalities including tactile with haptic devices," she added.
We're only just beginning to scratch the surface on the potential for virtual reality and while we're seeing innovative uses beginning to germinate in the fields of gaming, medicine and engineering there's every possibility users could swap high scores for getting high through drug-free, state-of-mind-skewing, VR.
Franco explains that this technology, for perhaps more productive purposes could allow humans in 2027 to "retrain, recalibrate and improve their perceptual systems".
While VR is relatively nascent in 2016, it has gone through a rapid transformation from final development stages to landing on consumers faces within a few short months. We're only just beginning to see the potential of VR and it's still fairly clunky. Give it another 10 years and it could become unrecognisable – just think about what mobile phones could do this time 10 years ago.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: Tripsahoy420]
#23908207 - 12/08/16 07:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mmmmm...
No.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
#23908310 - 12/08/16 08:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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LuSiD enthusiast said: Mmmmm...
No.
No what? 
Your saying VR won't be the next LSD? Keep in mind 100 years ago if you had tried to explain LSD to anyone they would have put you in a nut house.
Who knows where VR will be in 10 years, it very possibly could expand into other sensations by then and allow for very immersive/ intense experiences.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: musiclover420] 2
#23908896 - 12/09/16 12:03 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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VR will never be LSD. It will never affect your mind the way LSD will. Nor any other psychedelic for that matter. You can make it look like it, feel like it, but it wont be it.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: xthrx]
#23908963 - 12/09/16 12:37 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Obviously virtual reality could only be a visual thing.
Think about virtual reality ON LSD
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
#23909023 - 12/09/16 01:41 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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MinnesnowtaNice said: Obviously virtual reality could only be a visual thing.
Think about virtual reality ON LSD

That i can get behind.
Vr will never be a drug i can take, leave the house and explore the real world. The physical sensations are half the trip (more like 70% personally). Using the same vr program time and time again would get repetitive (i guess you can argus acid does, but acid ime takes well over a hundred trips to feel familiar, vr no matter what would feel similar after you see each visual once each)
Don't get me wrong, vr could be tripy as hell. I really want to get a vr headset and drop some acid and combine the two. But no matter what that mindfuck will not be there.
If it were, lawmakers would be banning it.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: musiclover420]
#23909223 - 12/09/16 06:05 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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musiclover420 said: Your saying VR won't be the next LSD? Keep in mind 100 years ago if you had tried to explain LSD to anyone they would have put you in a nut house.
Hm... no. Psychedelics are older than LSD. There is mushrooms and cacti to compare the experience to.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: Tiamo]
#23909356 - 12/09/16 07:40 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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How does microsoft plan to give people the euphoria? Closed eye visuals? Dissociation?
Why do so many people think tripping is seeing dinosaurs and shit lmao. Most the time I trip I only see trails unless I close my eyes and visualize shit.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: MollyLucyMaryJane]
#23909395 - 12/09/16 07:55 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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MollyLucyMaryJane said: How does microsoft plan to give people the euphoria? Closed eye visuals? Dissociation?
Why do so many people think tripping is seeing dinosaurs and shit lmao. Most the time I trip I only see trails unless I close my eyes and visualize shit.
Tripping would be lame as hell if that's all it were.
I mean... I'd do that shit every day because :insertdancingtrexhere: DINOSAURS!!!! But i would still need an acid substitute
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Edited by LuSiD enthusiast (12/09/16 07:58 AM)
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
#23911605 - 12/09/16 09:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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If Only Terence McKenna were alive to see this article He called this over 20 years ago.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: WackyWizard]
#23911621 - 12/09/16 09:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I seriously doubt this.
Ya video games that can expand your consciousness aye lmao....
Thats like going to aa then having a beer on the way home lol
What a crock of crap
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: MollyLucyMaryJane]
#23911636 - 12/09/16 09:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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xthrx said: VR will never be LSD. It will never affect your mind the way LSD will. Nor any other psychedelic for that matter. You can make it look like it, feel like it, but it wont be it.

No one is saying VR IS LSD they are saying it may be the new LSD which is entirely possible.
Like I said if you tried to explain LSD to someone 100 years ago you would be in for a serious challenge and most people wouldn't believe you.
VR is a new and evolving technology so we have no idea where it will end up.
This article is talking about VR incorporating other senses aside from vision which is completely possible.
If VR could look/feel exactly like a psychedelic experience then what would you call it? A non drug induced psychedelic experience I would say...
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musiclover420 said: Your saying VR won't be the next LSD? Keep in mind 100 years ago if you had tried to explain LSD to anyone they would have put you in a nut house.
Hm... no. Psychedelics are older than LSD. There is mushrooms and cacti to compare the experience to.
Yes but 100 years ago most people were not even aware of LSD or mushrooms, some have been for thousands of years clearly but not the majority of people.
You would be hard pressed to compare a drug that didn't yet exist with drugs very little people had even heard of at the time much less experienced 
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MollyLucyMaryJane said: How does microsoft plan to give people the euphoria? Closed eye visuals? Dissociation?
Why do so many people think tripping is seeing dinosaurs and shit lmao. Most the time I trip I only see trails unless I close my eyes and visualize shit.
I would assume something along the lines of electrical brain stimulation, pretty soon we will be able to stimulate specific parts of the brain artificially.
Maybe we will even have some form of cyborg soon where brains are completely connected to computers and entirely controllable.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: Tripsahoy420]
#23912042 - 12/10/16 02:33 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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It would be close enough. I'm waiting for a micro and macro cosmic experience. You need something immersive and perspective changing. It beats IMAX.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: MikeTesserect]
#23912083 - 12/10/16 03:25 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think Dr. Strange was it, visually. I still think it would be different than chemically induced hallucinations. If people used to spend 12 hours on Yahoo Messenger back in the day, then anything visually stimulating can be as hypnotic. I've just seen a Christmas lighting, one of those that make colors appear on the surface of your house, and they look visually hypnotic. If smells (as in aromatherapy) can induce euphoria, then I would assume visuals can too as anything we see does "register" in the brain, as much as music can create a different kind of high. They shouldn't call this hallucination but something else. Stimulation?
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: Tripsahoy420]
#23912242 - 12/10/16 06:04 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have no doubt that I could trip without using drugs. VR would probably make this easier under curtain circumstances. As for LSD... VR could possibly put me in an identical state of mind for some indefinite amount of time. Its just a matter of circumstance. As far as I'm concerned, people who argue a constant dissimilarity between drug effects and state of mind do not really understand the mind to begin with.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: Raven44]
#23912340 - 12/10/16 07:27 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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LuSiD enthusiast said:
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MinnesnowtaNice said: Obviously virtual reality could only be a visual thing.
Think about virtual reality ON LSD

That i can get behind.
Vr will never be a drug i can take, leave the house and explore the real world. The physical sensations are half the trip (more like 70% personally). Using the same vr program time and time again would get repetitive (i guess you can argus acid does, but acid ime takes well over a hundred trips to feel familiar, vr no matter what would feel similar after you see each visual once each)
Don't get me wrong, vr could be tripy as hell. I really want to get a vr headset and drop some acid and combine the two. But no matter what that mindfuck will not be there.
If it were, lawmakers would be banning it.
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Raven44 said: I seriously doubt this.
Ya video games that can expand your consciousness aye lmao....
Thats like going to aa then having a beer on the way home lol
What a crock of crap
I don't think you all get it. You can induce altered states by manipulating what a person's sensory input. There have been studies where they alternate flashing lights at people with various auditory and/or tactile inputs and achieve altered states of consciousness.
It's not simply going to be an Alice in Wonderland visual imagery you'd be seeing if they attempted to implement this.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: Hobbyist]
#23912349 - 12/10/16 07:33 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh I get it, I coukd imagine myself how it'd work via sensory input and frequency emitted before anyone explained.
Still doesn't change the fact that I would never choose to believe in such a thing.
Unless your programming the frequency yourself lmao... even then if you had one of these and offered to let me try it out for free I'd tell ya go fuck yourself.
And most likely never return lol
I gave up playing video games a long time ago so this idea as not amusing to me in the slightest. Its sad if u see that collective unconsciousness is what drives it. Otherwise there would be no need. No desire.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: Raven44]
#23912483 - 12/10/16 08:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I understand not trusting an experience like that that someone else created, but it's not like programming/mind control in the traditional sense as I understand it. I'd likely give it a whirl for novelty.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: Hobbyist] 1
#23912714 - 12/10/16 10:37 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I refuse to believe you could mimic any psychedelic with virtual reality.
But tell us more how we don't understand our minds.
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Re: Virtual reality is the new LSD: Microsoft predicts VR could offer hallucinogenic experiences [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
#23912813 - 12/10/16 11:27 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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MinnesnowtaNice said: I refuse to believe you could mimic any psychedelic with virtual reality.
But tell us more how we don't understand our minds.
You realize psychedelics are just catalysts that cause specific effects in the brain right? These effects can be induced without drugs as well through meditation and "vision quests" which people have been doing for thousands of years.
What is so hard to grasp about a similiar electrically induced experience?...
Also keep in mind there are many hallucinogens and their effects vary greatly.
So a psychedelic VR experience might not be identical to traditional experiences but it could still create a unique similar experience.
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Edited by musiclover420 (12/10/16 11:29 AM)
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