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having trouble with SGFC is cold climate
    #23908139 - 12/08/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)





Think I picked the wrong time of year to get into this hobby, having lots of trouble. My house is an old house and I can't afford to heat it when I'm not home, any cheapish methods for heating a SGFC would be awesome.  The cable taped to the top is a germination wire I was trying to use to heat it but think it was killing my RH so I keep it unplugged now.

Followed the brf pf tek done right and my colonization was very slow, almost 5 weeks but 4 jars out of 8 looked really good.  One started to pin in the jar and was the only one to fruit!  The fruit was very short/small and i picked them after the gills opened up.  disappointing harvest but still had a good time ;-)  Since the other 3 cakes never fruited I soaked all 4 again after i picked the mushy off the one cake.  I read an old post by frank saying SGFC don't work when humidity in the room is below %40 percent so I bought a humidifier for the room.  Humidity is between %75-80 with my digital reader so Im guessing its higher than that.  Temp between 60-75F.

After the second dunk of the cakes I did a way better job casing and the mycelium went crazy growing over the casing.  They have been in terrarium a little over a week and am seeing no pinning (except the one with contamination had two little aborts).  I'm pretty sure the first picture is contamination.  Any advice?  Should I wait until spring so I'm not battling this cold dry winter?


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Re: having trouble with SGFC is cold climate [Re: mushtard]
    #23908590 - 12/08/16 09:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Pretty sure you can afford to run a small space heater in just your grow room.  Keep the humidifier running and do some more research about cakes and sterile procedures.  That first pic is horribly fucked.  What did you roll your cakes with?


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Re: having trouble with SGFC is cold climate [Re: mushtard]
    #23909321 - 12/09/16 07:18 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

50/50 peat and verm.
I have been keeping small heater on but my house is so drafty the temperature fluctuates so much...
Feel like my sterilization was pretty good. Used a SA box and all 8 that I inoculated did well until 4 of them got contaminated after 3 weeks...

I think I'm going to just wait till spring and try mono tub, cakes seem like such a hassle in comparison.

thanks for reply!


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Re: having trouble with SGFC is cold climate [Re: mushtard]
    #23909416 - 12/09/16 08:07 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Half of your project failed due to contams, and you think that your sterile technique is pretty good?  Alrighty then.  If you cannot get cakes to work, a mono tub is not going to go any better for you.


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Re: having trouble with SGFC is cold climate [Re: mushtard]
    #23909464 - 12/09/16 08:29 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Place your jars on top of a PC.  My PC is on 24/7 and makes a perfect incubator for my jars.  Or the top of a refrigerator...anything that makes heat, water heater, TV, or just use the double tub/fish tank heater thingy.  Most aquarium heaters operate between 75-79 degrees.  Perfect temps!! 

Good luck!!


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Re: having trouble with SGFC is cold climate [Re: 7munkee]
    #23909473 - 12/09/16 08:34 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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7munkee said:
Place your jars on top of a PC.  My PC is on 24/7 and makes a perfect incubator for my jars.  Or the top of a refrigerator...anything that makes heat, water heater, TV, or just use the double tub/fish tank heater thingy.  Most aquarium heaters operate between 75-79 degrees.  Perfect temps!! 

Good luck!!




Your pc is on 24/7??
Depending on how cold a person's house gets incubation is usually detrimental.


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Re: having trouble with SGFC is cold climate [Re: WeavieWonder]
    #23909980 - 12/09/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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WeavieWonder said:
Half of your project failed due to contams, and you think that your sterile technique is pretty good?  Alrighty then.  If you cannot get cakes to work, a mono tub is not going to go any better for you.




I may be wrong, this is my first time, but it seems like temperature and the slow colonization is what led to contamination.  The jars were colonizing very quickly then slowed down immensely and contams came in 3 weeks after i inoculated.  From a lot of what I red, contamination from poor sterilizations usually show signs withing first few days.  I don't really know and will be more thorough with sterilization next time.

But my real issue is no fruits.


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Re: having trouble with SGFC is cold climate [Re: mushtard]
    #23909990 - 12/09/16 12:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

try this... ditch the SGFC (its a headache in the making and everything else about it) build a monotub and put a small heating pad that stays on 24/7 under it... maybe use some lid rings as spacers if it gets to hot... idk...


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Re: having trouble with SGFC is cold climate [Re: mushtard]
    #23909996 - 12/09/16 12:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I may be wrong, this is my first time, but it seems like temperature and the slow colonization is what led to contamination.




:justno:

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From a lot of what I red, contamination from poor sterilizations usually show signs withing first few days.




Mold shows up quick if it was inoculated with your syringe.
I think it was a bacterial issue that weakened the mycelium and slowed down the colonization. A bacterial contamination makes your cakes more vulnerable to other contaminations like mold.


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I don't really know and will be more thorough with sterilization next time.




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