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JohnDoeKENTUCKY
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Questions on Adding Syrian Rue in to Pot Brownies
#23906814 - 12/08/16 12:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I wanted to know what you all think about adding Syrian Rue seeds in to pot brownie mix then baking it and making syrian-pot brownies.
There is not much information at all on the internet on this matter, and the only threads and links I could find were on eating SR and smoking weed on it (which I have heard is very nice).
So my buddy makes a ton of weed brownies and he bought some SR to add in to them to make them stronger, while requiring less weed ( will this work ?) I wanted to know A) Will 350ºF destroy the harmalas alkaloids? B) How many grams of the seed would you all add per brownie? and how much weed with that?
Thanks for your response
Edited by JohnDoeKENTUCKY (12/08/16 12:50 PM)
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Re: Questions on Adding Syrian Rue in to Pot Brownies [Re: JohnDoeKENTUCKY]
#23906906 - 12/08/16 01:09 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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That would work at that temperature. Let us know how that goes. 
REALLY cool idea.
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Re: Questions on Adding Syrian Rue in to Pot Brownies [Re: larry.fisherman]
#23906946 - 12/08/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Preciate the feedback. Anyone else know anything about what would be a good ratio to make the brownies with?
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Re: Questions on Adding Syrian Rue in to Pot Brownies [Re: larry.fisherman]
#23906952 - 12/08/16 01:23 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm very interested to hear how this goes/turns out. I've been thinking it'd be a good idea to mix oral Rue and oral Cannabis together for awhile now.
Me personally, i'd probably grind up the Rue seeds, and encapsulate the powder, taking them right before eating the brownie.
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Re: Questions on Adding Syrian Rue in to Pot Brownies [Re: Sabnock]
#23907365 - 12/08/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just don't share them with anybody who's medication could cause an interaction.
Those brownies are going to taste like shit rue is very very bitter. Three grams is a starting dose that won't produce much nausea in most people above that if your not use to it can make you feel quite ill.
I wouldn't make this combo I would brew the rue seperate and take them seperate. If the nausea kicks in and it makes you sick at least you won't waste the THC by spewing up the in activated THC as rue kicks in 30mins and THC can take two hours
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Re: Questions on Adding Syrian Rue in to Pot Brownies [Re: spiritofspice]
#23908738 - 12/08/16 10:47 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yah, I don't see the point in mixing drugs like this. I might roll a spliff occasionally, but I am not going to roll a pack of them cause I'm not going to want to smoke tobacco with my weed most of the time. If I want rue I'll drink rue. If I want weed I'll smoke (or eat) weed. This is like putting xanax and oxycodone in the same pill. Sure you might happen to want to take both at once but just pop two pills, w/e, don't make it so you can only take both at once.
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Re: Questions on Adding Syrian Rue in to Pot Brownies [Re: krypto2000]
#23908906 - 12/09/16 12:09 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Honestly edible cannabis can very easily be over-shot and terrifyingly potent. I could understand it if you have shit weed (maybe), but if you have a certain kind and eat say 2 grams ontop of Syrian rue you may be in for a world of pain! Never underestimate either substance Rue or Cannabis.
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Re: Questions on Adding Syrian Rue in to Pot Brownies [Re: wolf8312]
#23917091 - 12/11/16 05:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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What do you mean? Can weed cause pain if you get super stoned? Lol.
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Re: Questions on Adding Syrian Rue in to Pot Brownies [Re: JohnDoeKENTUCKY]
#23917107 - 12/11/16 05:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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He does have a point actually. That point more has to do with people's individual tolerances and how weed effects them. Some people eat too much weed and get really high, other people eat too much weed and freak out or have seriously undesirable effects, and other people eat weed and don't get any effects at all.
The first thing to keep in mind is that weed and syrian rue is a psychedelic experience in a way. It can be intense and come with some pretty serious vibrations, warping, and vibrant nearly-disorienting kaleidscoping CEVs. Which is very cool, but the first group I mentioned would be those who benefitted best by that effect. The latter group would probably just get really high, but the second group.. well they may end up in a pretty shitty spot if the weed dosage is not spot on. Basically, only let people who are down for a ride eat them, or keep the cannabis dosage low as to allow the rue to stretch it out.
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Re: Questions on Adding Syrian Rue in to Pot Brownies [Re: JohnDoeKENTUCKY] 1
#23918861 - 12/12/16 08:29 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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JohnDoeKENTUCKY said: What do you mean? Can weed cause pain if you get super stoned? Lol.
How stoned have you ever been?
Have you ever had demons convince you were going to die from a heart attack simply because you would worry or think yourself to death?
If you eat alot of weed you may start experiencing major tactile and auditory hallucinations that will possibly scare you shitless (metaphor!). You can quite easily overdose on cannabis if the product is good quality.
In my experience a cannabis 'trip' tends to need some sort of adrenaline or fear fueled catalyst to ignite the powder keg but this is very often the nature of a high dose of oral cannabis anyway. I am far from alone in having had such experiences with edible cannabis.
First time I experienced this was at about 14 years of age walking home alone worrying about how I would face my parents feeling so stoned. Everything intensified to the point were I wasnt simply stoned but basically tripping my face off and very afraid. Imaginary voices babbling away and hands grabbing me and throwing me up into the air etc. I spent the night hiding in the bath! But that experience was nothing compared to some later ones.
Both of those substances Cannabis and Rue are powerful potentiators and as XL has said Syrian rue can be a psychedelic experience in its own right. I had a horrible trip on six grams of that once too. Nasty psychedelic in high doses but a wonderful teacher in small doses with DMT. I could well imagine rue and cannabis being an explosive combination and to go into something like that thinking cannabis is something utterly harmless would be as foolish to think in like terms about Syrian Rue. They are both very powerful hallucinogens and I know this from years of experience.
And I would have thought everybody knows what 'world of pain' means, need it be taken so literally? If I'd have said 'you will be totally fucked' would you have shot back 'cannabis cant fuck you!'
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Re: Questions on Adding Syrian Rue in to Pot Brownies [Re: wolf8312]
#23919023 - 12/12/16 10:02 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I hold the opinion that I have a pretty high tolerance for THC.
I then consumed several highly concentrated pot brownies that gave me horrific night terrors. I almost believed that there were people trying to get into my back door and murder me in my sleep.
We basically put two autoflowering dwarf plants into one batch, nine brownies total. It was incredible and terrible at the same time.
edit: don't put rue into your brownies, the whole batch will probably end up tasting like BC powder and you don't even know if one person is getting a higher dose than the other. That could lead to several participants getting sick.
You need to carefully measure each dose of rue or you're going to have a bad time. I've had to endure several bad trips due to this, it will definitely teach you a lesson.
Edited by Get Shwifty (12/12/16 10:08 AM)
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Re: Questions on Adding Syrian Rue in to Pot Brownies [Re: Get Shwifty]
#23920130 - 12/12/16 03:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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MAOIs should never really be put into food to begin with if you ask me, they're not something you should be eating casually.
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Re: Questions on Adding Syrian Rue in to Pot Brownies [Re: krypto2000]
#23920183 - 12/12/16 04:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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krypto2000 said: MAOIs should never really be put into food to begin with if you ask me, they're not something you should be eating casually.
Harmalas are RIMA's, not MAOI's, Harmalas do not interact with Tyramine, or anything else in the majority of foods ime. Harmalas reversibly inhibit MAO-A and leave MAO-B alone, so MAO-B can metabolize Tyramine.
Aside from that, i've taken Rue seed and extract quite a lot since 2012, and in the last 6 months have been taking it daily/near daily, and have taken quite the super strong dosages that most people wouldn't use, and food has never been an issue for me. Harmalas can cause side-effects that some might mistake for some food reaction, but once the side-effects go away due to the Harmala reverse tolerance building up, you see that food does not interact with the MAO-A inhibition. I'm at a point now where a super strong dose of Harmalas feels basically as clean as a pharmaceutical, and i only need like 600 to 800mgs of Rue seed powder for a strong dosage, that's how much i've gotten the reverse tolerance built up by taking it regularly, which i'd say an equivalent dosage of Harmalas without the reverse tolerance would probably be like 7 to 10 grams or so Rue (Harmala-wise), even got up high enough a few times to experience the tremoring that Harmaline's GABA-A inverse agonism can cause. And with the reverse tolerance built up, all the nasty side-effects like nausea, vomiting, rough/sickly body load, motor function impairment, all that stuff goes away and the medicinal effects of the MAO-A inhibition and some of it's other effects stays, but the side-effects are gone for the most part.
If you work with Caapi or Rue long enough, you'll realize the dietary restrictions do not apply to Harmalas like they do to pharmaceutical irreversible and non-selective MAOI's. Also, the MAO-A inhibition in the gut by the Harmalas is pretty short in duration. If in tea form, Harmalas only stick around in the gut maybe 15 to 30 minutes, in capsule form Harmalas seem to stick around for about 15 to 30 minutes to one and half to two hours, after that, MAO-A in the gut is no longer inhibited and thus if you tried to take DMT it wouldn't be active because MAO-A wouldn't be inhibited. The MAO-A inhibition in the gut is a short window, so as long as one doesn't eat something right before taking Harmalas or right after, no one would have to worry about anything dietary related, but even then, i and many others have eaten right before and right after taking Harmalas, and still, no dietary reactions were noticed.
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Re: Questions on Adding Syrian Rue in to Pot Brownies [Re: Sabnock]
#23920503 - 12/12/16 06:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cool, well I take back the safety aspect if true.
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Re: Questions on Adding Syrian Rue in to Pot Brownies [Re: krypto2000]
#23920579 - 12/12/16 06:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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krypto2000 said: Cool, well I take back the safety aspect if true.
Yeah, you still have to be safe when it comes to certain medications or drugs, but food's no problemo.
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Re: Questions on Adding Syrian Rue in to Pot Brownies [Re: Sabnock]
#23921152 - 12/12/16 09:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Don't as the rue will make the brownies taste terrible, and could have a bad reaction with someone on a medication.
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