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OfflineMescalean
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Re: Why isn't there a stronger female presence here? [Re: psi]
    #23904786 - 12/07/16 07:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I NEED A SPOTTER BRA

I guess I feel you dude. I've said it before. I get "passionate" about certain subjects. Especially ones where I see or smell some form of bullshit. And I do understand what you are saying about me belittling your shit, I just give back when I see it from you dude, which to be honest I was not addressing you at all or thinking you were negative at all originally, it was crystal. Which I'm not backing down on that view. Since I have been here that is all I have seen from here while I can honestly say to myself that you on the other hand have spoken to me the way adults do on multiple occasions even when we dont agree. So let me put my big boy pants on and say sorry if it seems like I lashed out at you at all today akira. Didn't mean to direct/re-direct any negativity at you.


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Re: Why isn't there a stronger female presence here? [Re: Mescalean]
    #23904801 - 12/07/16 07:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

i'm fine with belittling language. just as long as there is a fair playing field for people to all use belittling language. :shrug: so i appreciate your apology, but it's not necessary.

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Re: Why isn't there a stronger female presence here? [Re: Apostle] * 1
    #23904808 - 12/07/16 07:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Apostle said:
i feel like i'd be less confused if i actually read through threads.




honestly, probably not :shrug:

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Re: Why isn't there a stronger female presence here? [Re: Chakra Shock]
    #23904819 - 12/07/16 07:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

lol

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Re: Why isn't there a stronger female presence here? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23905069 - 12/07/16 08:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Asante said:
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CookieCrumbs said:
Asante this is proof we need a Shroomery endorsed LGBT forum.





We have a user created one but almost no one uses it. Granted, its in the wasteland of user created forums, but still.




Yeah I requested the great JoieDeVivre to create it and so she did but its my fault it failed. My poor advertising and constant inactivity on didn't help at all. I figured it would take off on its own just cause there are so many of us on this forum but the pub just attracts everyone for whatever reason.


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Re: Why isn't there a stronger female presence here? [Re: Cosmic_Flame] * 2
    #23905094 - 12/07/16 08:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

She was a marvel.  We need some more like that.

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Re: Why isn't there a stronger female presence here? [Re: yogabunny] * 1
    #23905128 - 12/07/16 08:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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proth said:
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Crystal G said:
That might be true for the average-intellect or "basic bitch" type of man, but for a lot of guys it's not. A lot of my long-term relationships started from one-night stands or sex-on-the-first-date type of situations. I filed papers to get married to somebody who I slept with within hours of meeting them.

You have to remember there are men out there that even marry porn stars and strippers, not everybody is looking for somebody virginal or pure.





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It's true for all men as its a basic instinct. Just because they don't disclose it to you doesn't make it it not true. Women maintain similar instincts and rarely express to their partners when they think they're being 'pussies'. Has nothing to do with average-intellect/basic bitch tendencies and more to due w/ the deeper laws that govern this universe. 

I guarantee you all of those one-night stands created that thought within the guys you were with. There are men out there who marry porn stars and strippers. Have you ever had a truthful word with them as to why and what they think about them or have thought? How they value them? Again, the world goes a lot deeper than the surface. Men aren't as dumb as some women make us appear. Also, lots of men's behavior towards women is due to how they present themselves. You think any intelligent man is going to value a woman whose out there giving it up 24/7 over one whose not as potential marriage material? If you think that, you're widely mistaken about how men view the world or what goes through our minds.




+ 1

Seriously, why would a man pander to any woman and or put himself in a situation where, half his resources and kids will be taken? It makes absolutely no sense when, her 20s were spent being some guy's booty call. It is absurd and I would troll a woman on site making such ridiculous request.

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Crystal G said:
Let me tell you about my personal experience.

I actually have this problem where I lose interest in a man almost immediately after sleeping with him. It's really odd because I will be practically in love with him when I first meet him, I picture myself marrying him and being in a romantic blissful relationship with him and everything... and then once I have sex with him, I completely lose interest.





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That is you overpowering your emotional intelligence and allowing yourself to weave a fantasy in order to 'enjoy the encounter'. Unlike men, such encounters carry a higher penalty for women. Higher because you're unaware of its emotional effects it has on you and the deeper scars it leaves.




Some people are so numb and unaware after decades of a particular behavior, the fallout is beyond imaginable. The attention dwindles. Dudes will fuck but, the calls are less frequent and the freebie dinners stop happening.

It might be cute to be a fuck buddy in your 20. A woman at 30+ fuck buddy is kind of a sad feat. It is like when women 30-40+ start acting like they are in their 20s again and pretending to be dumb. It just asinine.
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And it doesn't matter how long I've waited or how many dates it's been. I've waited after the 15th date after 3-4 months in some cases, and it still makes me lose complete interest in them once we have sex.

That is honestly why I don't bother waiting to have sex when I date anymore, because to me it has made absolutely no difference in whether it turns out into a lasting relationship or not.





And how is that working out for you?

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This is a result of the deep effects of continually engaging in this activity. It goes to reflect my point.




+1

Factually, the same discontent doesn't just stop one day. It bleeds into other areas of life. It follows in divorce. Promiscuity in women (since nobody cares to do the studies on men) have a much higher risk of divorce. The children of these women tend to follow the same path of divorce, teen pregnancy, std, and it fucks them up.
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Crystal G said:
I even made a thread about it years back, it was such a persistent occurring theme in my dating life. I'm sure in my case it was a psychological problem of some sort though: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20298720/fpart/1/vc/1

I have had some of these guys blowing up my phone later, begging me to give them a second chance, and some of them seemed like quality guys... but I just can't bring myself to force myself to be attached to somebody I have no interest or feelings for.





Some ego! And how is that working for you? Serious question is serious.

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As I have said, by engaging in such activities, a woman becomes moreso like a man and damages her feminine strengths regarding her emotional center. It took me a while to understand it before I learned how broken a woman becomes through this practice. It's fixable as are all things but intelligent men can spot this.... this is what finalexplosion was talking about in more harsher/direct language when he spoke of being resigned to hoping from one D to another... Intelligent men are able to 'see' the scars from such encounters and then you get resigned to clowns/boys.




There seems to be an abundance of masculine women now a days. A complete and utter denial of the feminine and femininity as a whole. You can see it the way women walk, their "don't need a man" narrative, the weight gain, the emphasis on career, and what society says until the fuck boys stop coming. There are attractive women 30+ but, there are definitely better alternative. No diss. Just saying.


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Crystal G said:
I am not the stereotypical story of women however, and I don't speak on behalf of all women in any way, shape, or form. I just thought I'd share my personal experience because we all have varied experiences that aren't linear or streamlined with people's preconceived notions of human behavior.




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I thank you for sharing your story and appreciate it and in no way are my comments meant to be towards you personally.. Moreso, I'm speaking generally and about certain activities and consequences.






Pure gold You sir are a scholar. I am recognizing your genius.


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Re: Why isn't there a stronger female presence here? [Re: finalexplosion] * 1
    #23905168 - 12/07/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

what text vomit.

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Re: Why isn't there a stronger female presence here? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23905258 - 12/07/16 09:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Leave em alone bro. :mad:

I'm a spotter for hire, it's just business. :waits:


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Re: Why isn't there a stronger female presence here? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23905259 - 12/07/16 09:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
what text vomit.






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Re: Why isn't there a stronger female presence here? [Re: yogabunny]
    #23905357 - 12/07/16 10:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

you don't have any clue what a "Good woman" is, because people are individuals.

you guys are

:braindamage:

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Re: Why isn't there a stronger female presence here? [Re: yogabunny] * 1
    #23905452 - 12/07/16 11:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

you're making mountains out of molehills, like typical muppets do. drawing on notions that aren't actually shared by all women or men, as a token of reality, as if these notions were reified by your simply caterwauling about them.

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Re: Why isn't there a stronger female presence here? [Re: qman]
    #23905500 - 12/07/16 11:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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qman said:
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Mush 4 Brains said:
Ideally i think we shouldnt need forums for lgbtq or for different races/ethnic groups.

You would think that people who are recreational drug users/supporters and members of counter culture would understand certain things like being part of a minority that lives outside the norm. Or knows what its like to be put down/not accepted by society.

This community should ideally acknowledge that we all here share these similarities and we should treat all people with respect, making it a safe place for everyone...




You have to realize, it's now liberals that are calling for segregation of all types, let them have it.

They'll have to remember, it works BOTH ways.  :rofl2:




It's not "segregation," straight people are still welcome in the LGBT forums.

How is this any different from having a "men's only" club, or a gay nightclub?

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Re: Why isn't there a stronger female presence here? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23905507 - 12/07/16 11:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Crystal G said:

How is this any different from having a "men's only" club, or a gay nightclub?



Straight men are usually extra welcome at gay nightclubs.

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Re: Why isn't there a stronger female presence here? [Re: finalexplosion]
    #23905515 - 12/07/16 11:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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finalexplosion said:
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I just can't bring myself to force myself to be attached to somebody I have no interest or feelings for.




Some ego! And how is that working for you? Serious question is serious.




How is not falling in love with just any man that comes my way a sign of "ego?" :facepalm:

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Re: Why isn't there a stronger female presence here? [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23905518 - 12/07/16 11:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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ohcrapitsnico said:
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Crystal G said:

How is this any different from having a "men's only" club, or a gay nightclub?



Straight men are usually extra welcome at gay nightclubs.




They are welcome in the LGBT forums as well. Nobody says you have to be gay or trans or bi-curious to post there, it's not a rule.

I consider myself straight, and I always hang out in LGBT spaces all the time. Nobody has ever told me to leave or made me feel unwelcome.

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Re: Why isn't there a stronger female presence here? [Re: yogabunny]
    #23905644 - 12/08/16 01:08 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Typical muppets tend not to understand that a mountain is but a summation of molehills.



typical muppets try to deconstruct English idioms, as if they were literal.

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They also tend not to understand that what man sets upon in the present and 'abstract' becomes reified in the future for which caterwauls forewarn...



yeah, not necessarily. and you're doing so with a load of malarky that you simply 'believe' or want to be the case -- when it is simply not.

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For a muppet is ignorant of the deeper functions of the world and universe and defies explanation and truthful pronouncements as such.



great. it's still not true what malarky you're propounding, however.

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So, enjoy the caterwauls while you can. They'll soon grow quiet inline with reification.




you learned some new words today. yay! reification is a logical fallacy.

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Re: Why isn't there a stronger female presence here? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23905717 - 12/08/16 02:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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proth said:

This is a result of the deep effects of continually engaging in this activity. It goes to reflect my point.




That's too overly simplistic to assert that the prime cause of female suffering is promiscuity. In many cases, hypersexuality among women AND men often stems from childhood traumas such as physical or sexual abuse. They had something psychologically going on in their heads long before they were ever sexually active, promiscuity was simply an outlet for that. That is one of the reasons we often see dysfunctional people among people who jump from partner to partner and lack the ability to connect with one person for a prolonged period of time.

It is not the sex that made them dysfunctional, contrary to what you might think. But people mistakenly make this assumption, because they wrongfully assume correlation for causation. Sleeping around in and of itself does not hinder one's ability to love. That notion is preposterous, that dicks drain potential from women like leeches or something.

It completely depends how one utilizes that sexuality, and what one's intentions are. If somebody participates in an orgy because they are curious about that sex act and have never tried it before, this is not a bad thing, it's a simple expression of sexuality. But if somebody sleeps around with a bunch of people because they want to prove their self-worth, their masculinity or whatever, or because they want some kind of attention, then this is negative, as it indicates you are acting upon insecurity, and attempting to fill a void in your life.

So, it completely depends on one's intentions and underlying motives for having sex.

Likewise, being in a monogamous relationship just for the sake of being in a relationship, because you are lonely or codependent or because of societal pressures or whatever, is also extremely destructive. People need to ultimately be okay with the idea of being alone first. (Funny how this is one aspect that Red Pill types tend to gloss over and never criticize women for.)

That's why I don't think final explosion knows what he's talking about when he talks about mental health and what's best for somebody, as he was accusing me of having "ego" for not getting emotionally invested easily to just any man. Because the reality is, it's much healthier to be content with being single, then pushing to be in a relationship with somebody you don't truly harbor feelings for. To do so would actually be a sign of codependence and neediness. If you have to force a relationship when it doesn't feel natural to you, that is the complete opposite of emotional stability, and if anything, would lead to perpetual unhappiness and desire to break up later on down the road.

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It's true for all men as its a basic instinct. Just because they don't disclose it to you doesn't make it it not true.




Men don't have some inherent feature in their brain that shuts off pleasure once a woman has more partners than him. Could it turn off some, or even many men? Sure, absolutely. A lot of women don't see promiscuity as an attractive trait in men either. But I've also met men who are turned off by virgins, either that or it does absolutely nothing psychologically for them, and prefer a more experienced woman.

Do you remember the case of Mary Kay Letourneau? That teacher who got impregnated by her 12 year old student and then was sentenced to prison, then later married him after she was released? I remember talking about that case with one of my exes. I remember being surprised by the news when I heard that kid married that same teacher who is basically technically his "rapist."

He says, "Well yeah, what do you expect? He comes across a woman like that with all that experience, how could he possibly go back to dating girls his age ever again?"

Anyway, I thought that particular comment was interesting, because it gave me an insight into what men like him think of women with lots of sexual or dating experience. Which apparently, is not necessarily a bad thing, contrary to what you're suggesting.

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Seriously, why would a man pander to any woman and or put himself in a situation where, half his resources and kids will be taken? It makes absolutely no sense when, her 20s were spent being some guy's booty call.




Do you know what else is a risk factor for divorce? Getting married too young. Studies show that getting married in your late 20's is much better than get married at age 20. Education is also another risk factor. The higher your education level, the more likely you are to remain married.


Interestingly enough, I have this study right here, that indicates that sexual partners do matter, but rather, it is finding somebody with a sexual history similar to yours is what matters, rather than finding somebody with an absence of history.

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The data on the correlations between similarity in prior number of intercourse partners and quality of the relationship (e.g., love, satisfaction with, and com- mitment to, the relationship) indicated that similarity in number of sexual intercourse partners correlated significantly with quality of the relationship among married participants. Specifically, men and women who were relatively similar to one another in the number of prior sexual intercourse partners were more likely to report a higher level of love toward one another, a higher level of satisfaction with the relationship, and a higher degree of commitment to one another than dis- similar couples.




https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Charlotte_Markey/publication/5964280_Matching_in_Sexual_Experience_for_Married_Cohabitating_and_Dating_Couples/links/02bfe5113b4e6080e4000000.pdf

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Re: Why isn't there a stronger female presence here? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23905848 - 12/08/16 05:28 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Doesn't it also matter what their expectations for the relationship  going in matter as well? I read something recently about this on redit somewhere, i cant all remember it though.

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Re: Why isn't there a stronger female presence here? [Re: akira_akuma] * 6
    #23905957 - 12/08/16 07:32 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

As a bi-sexual woman who is attracted to human beings of ALL genders and sexual orientations, and who is in theory, if not necessarily in practice polyamorous; I am really happy I don't have have to live in the very limited, binary, Me Tarzan You Jane world of proth and finalexplosion.

:yinyang2:


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