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zZZz
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I dont necessarily embrace those things as much as i try to be aware of them when they are occuring.
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rogue_pixie said: Psychopaths live without shame. That is what makes them so dangerous.
I feel like sum of the craziest people are actually sober af and have probably never done a drug in their lives aside from alittle alcohol and cigarretes.
Peeps always be going after the drug users that they forget all about the non drug users..
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If you were really schizophrenic you would still be.
Perhaps you were psychotic?
I look forward to a day when our genetics are our diagnosis.
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#23904478 - 12/07/16 06:05 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Morel Guy said:
I look forward to a day when our genetics are our diagnosis.
The fourth reich? 
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zZZz said: I dont necessarily embrace those things as much as i try to be aware of them when they are occuring.
There's a little of both in my views, but I do spend far more time trying to work away from negative emotions than finding any immediate use for them
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Eugenics to the rescue!
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Currently symptoms are used for diagnosis. I can see that this works but it also a lot of the time is incorrect. It's the old and easy way of doing things. People spend a lot of years and money fitting the diagnosis on the disease.
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Morel Guy said: If you were really schizophrenic you would still be.
Perhaps you were psychotic?
I look forward to a day when our genetics are our diagnosis.
I assumed that's what was already going on in western medicine..
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Morel Guy said: If you were really schizophrenic you would still be.
Perhaps you were psychotic?
I look forward to a day when our genetics are our diagnosis.
Well i was diagnosed with schizophrenia twice but each time i recovered fully from it so it really was just a temporary psychosis caused by excessive BHO use
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I think that there are underlying issues if something as harmless as BHO were to cause a psychotic break.
Meth maybe, spice sure, but BHO ain't that much of a thang.
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Re: Shame [Re: czech]
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I notice it a lot in mainstream media, society, and social narratives.
In society, you can't slut or fat shame. We can however say things like "fuck you WHITE AMERICA," we can demonize men, use shaming language, and manipulation to contrive the results we want. Its pretty fucking gross but, if you can pick up on the subtleties, you can catch it and out somebody.
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Repertoire89 said: What is your greatest shame?
I have none, I try as hard as I reasonably can to be perfect.
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Re: Shame [Re: zZZz]
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zZZz said:
I feel like sum of the craziest people are actually sober af and have probably never done a drug in their lives aside from alittle alcohol and cigarretes.
I agree, the worst nut jobs I have seen thought drugs were bad, I tend to not trust people that don't use, or haven't used something before, it's a flaw of mine.
Regarding the topic of this thread, I think people can feel guilt for having treated someone poorly, but I think shame is much deeper. I think people kill themselves for feeling shame, but a guilty person can be redeemed if they're willing to do so, does that make sense? Shame always seemed like such a harsh word.
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Re: Shame [Re: Lucis]
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You can make that distinction, but ive been using the words interchangeably. Like anger and rage, technically theyre synonymous
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I view anger and rage as two totally different things, if I am angry I would be in control of how I was feeling, if I was in a rage then I would be out of control.
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Re: Shame [Re: Alyssa]
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Repertoire89 said: What is your greatest shame?
I have none, I try as hard as I reasonably can to be perfect.
I honestly think you have to be either exteemely emotionally repressed or psychopathic not to feel shame at some point or another, I only entertain the prospect of someone being truly psychopathic as a theoretical, so repression is my assumption. As for sannyasins, Im not a believer, repression again.
Do you entertain the idea that you could be repressing feeling of shame, or do you reject the idea outright? I think it is healthy to reflect on the possibility, everyone is repressed to some degree imo, we're a constantly shifting pool of emotion and perfection is impossible as tensions arise spontaneously here or there, with or without reason.
Food for thought
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Re: Shame [Re: Lucis]
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Fennario said: I view anger and rage as two totally different things, if I am angry I would be in control of how I was feeling, if I was in a rage then I would be out of control.
That was why I used thise words as an example, I often group certain words which may have more distinct meanings, its a habit born from writing a lot of poetry
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Alyssa said:
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Repertoire89 said: What is your greatest shame?
I have none, I try as hard as I reasonably can to be perfect.
I honestly think you have to be either exteemely emotionally repressed or psychopathic not to feel shame at some point or another, I only entertain the prospect of someone being truly psychopathic as a theoretical, so repression is my assumption. As for sannyasins, Im not a believer, repression again.
Do you entertain the idea that you could be repressing feeling of shame, or do you reject the idea outright? I think it is healthy to reflect on the possibility, everyone is repressed to some degree imo, we're a constantly shifting pool of emotion and perfection is impossible as tensions arise spontaneously here or there, with or without reason.
Food for thought
What does an angel like me have to be ashamed of? Certainly not my body. My words? My actions? I'm always motivated by my dream of universal love and empathy. I wasn't always enlightened, but I don't feel ashamed of my unenlightened self. I was never a bad person. I just couldn't always see what I see now, because I hadn't had my divine revelations yet. I've made plenty of mistakes in my life, but I've always tried my best, so why should I be ashamed of them?
As far as what society says I should be ashamed of myself for, I give it the big "fuck you". Having gone long periods of time unemployed, for example; society says it's shameful to claim benefits but I certainly had no qualms about doing it, I even boasted about my lifestyle on the shroomery. And now that I'm employed, I'm not ashamed to be working for the man; I merely realized that in order to help the Illuminati achieve the NWO I should be contributing to the economic system, so I decided to look for a job. People might still think it's shameful that I'm working at home, naked on my bed smoking weed while others are stuck in fast food kitchens and cleaning toilets, but basically I'm just reaping the rewards of having a marketable skill. People might think it's shameful that I quit university after 1 month; I think it's funny.
So you see, not being concerned about what people think of me and having faith in my own moral compass means I don't have to feel shame. It's not psychopathic or repressed, but rather enlightened.
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Re: Shame [Re: czech]
#23908001 - 12/08/16 06:28 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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czech said: I think that there are underlying issues if something as harmless as BHO were to cause a psychotic break.
Meth maybe, spice sure, but BHO ain't that much of a thang.
I never had any psych issues so im not sure what underlying problems there could be.
But i do know i was smoking BHO all day everyday for months on end..but i agree that still shouldnt be enough to make me have a psychotic break
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