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The "Unschooling Movement" -- Keep your kids out of school and let them learn whatever they want
#23902516 - 12/07/16 08:17 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Has anybody heard of this shit? It's called the "unschooling movement," where parents take their kids out of school and keep them at home and let them do pretty much whatever.
It's different from home-schooling because the parents don't teach their kids anything or provide them with any curriculum, it's basically up to the kid what they want to learn, if at all.
Naturally, a lot of children don't want to sit down and do math, and won't bother to learn to read if they don't have to. So basically they just end up raising uneducated, useless kids.
Here's a video. What are your thoughts on this "unschooling movement?" This is some cave-man shit, I really hope this doesn't become some big trend in the future.
Edit: Turns out ABC doesn't allow streaming on YouTube, so please click on this link for the video
Edited by Crystal G (12/07/16 08:23 AM)
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Re: The "Unschooling Movement" -- Keep your kids out of school and let them learn whatever they want [Re: Crystal G]
#23902584 - 12/07/16 08:44 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Interesting idea, kind of like montessori. Except with montessori kids get taught a little something and then they are left with materials and free time to do what they want.
It might work well for some but no so much with others. Children need some kind of basic structure imo but there is something to the idea of learning about something you choose to more thoroughly.
Given the choice of doing what they want a lot of kids would probably eat bagel bites and ice cream while watching cartoons and playing video games all day.
Youd basically turn your kid into cartman from the world of warcract episode of southpark.
I do believe giving children a choice/control of what they want to learn as being potentially a good thing. Builds confidence, independence..
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Re: The "Unschooling Movement" -- Keep your kids out of school and let them learn whatever they want [Re: Crystal G]
#23902586 - 12/07/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: The "Unschooling Movement" -- Keep your kids out of school and let them learn whatever they want [Re: Crystal G] 7
#23902587 - 12/07/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crystal G said: Naturally, a lot of children don't want to sit down and do math, and won't bother to learn to read if they don't have to. So basically they just end up raising uneducated, useless kids.
so they're raising progressives
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Re: The "Unschooling Movement" -- Keep your kids out of school and let them learn whatever they want [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
#23902594 - 12/07/16 08:47 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Also its important as a child to learn there are things in life you have to do that you dont want to like work or responsibilities. I feel school installs a lot of that structure into the young mind. Never ind the subjects but the responsibility and obligation and to know that life is not tailored for you, that yu have to accept things in life for what they are and know not everything is going to be something you want/like/choose to do.
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Re: The "Unschooling Movement" -- Keep your kids out of school and let them learn whatever they want [Re: SonicTitan]
#23902644 - 12/07/16 09:11 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Very true. Youd also have to assume life experiences will teach them that they have limits and consequences to an extent though too.
Its all about a balance. I think its very important that a child is regularly given free time/free range, to do what they want within reason. I wish i was given more as a child, i think it wouldve built up a stronger confidence in myself that took some time in adulthood for me to cultivate.
Also studies have shown that children greatly excel at things they like/have an interest in.
I always envied the rare people out there that knew exactly what they wanted to do their whole life. I think some freedom in education during childhood plays a positive role in that.
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Re: The "Unschooling Movement" -- Keep your kids out of school and let them learn whatever they want [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
#23902648 - 12/07/16 09:13 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I went to Montessori preschool. I remember enjoying it.
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Re: The "Unschooling Movement" -- Keep your kids out of school and let them learn whatever they want [Re: Crystal G] 1
#23902651 - 12/07/16 09:16 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crystal G said: Has anybody heard of this shit? It's called the "unschooling movement," where parents take their kids out of school and keep them at home and let them do pretty much whatever.
It's different from home-schooling because the parents don't teach their kids anything or provide them with any curriculum, it's basically up to the kid what they want to learn, if at all.
Naturally, a lot of children don't want to sit down and do math, and won't bother to learn to read if they don't have to. So basically they just end up raising uneducated, useless kids. ]
Sounds like most of what most of our fail school systems put out anyway.... Dick
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Re: The "Unschooling Movement" -- Keep your kids out of school and let them learn whatever they want [Re: Crystal G] 3
#23902652 - 12/07/16 09:17 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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My parents tried homeschooling me, but it turned into me basically just not doing school. Felt like unschooling. Didn't even know multiplication tables when I started college. I was a straight A student save for my last couple semesters when I just didn't care about the whole college thing anymore. I felt odd giving help to people that spent 9 more years in school than I had.
You don't need school.
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Re: The "Unschooling Movement" -- Keep your kids out of school and let them learn whatever they want [Re: Solivagant]
#23902659 - 12/07/16 09:21 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Solivagant said: I was a straight A student save for my last couple semesters when I just didn't care about the whole college thing anymore.
Curious, how were you a straight A student in college if you couldn't do multiplication tables? Didn't you have to take statistics or some other college-level math courses that were requirements?
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Re: The "Unschooling Movement" -- Keep your kids out of school and let them learn whatever they want [Re: Crystal G]
#23902666 - 12/07/16 09:26 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thats basically what I did from age 11, but I was actually interested in learning and studied. Went through a program and did the tests to get a diploma at 17, started college at 18 without a hitch.
Its a terrible idea though, I was fine because the interest was there and I had a lot of textbooks sitting around from different family members attending one university or another, but most kids wouldnt do shit. Another issue is having guidance and direction from teachers, thats very important for any kind of study, although it wouldnt have benefited me for the same reasons I was expelled from the local school system.
Discipline is another issue, I have plenty of discipline where it matters to me, but not where it typically matters to society. To be fair on that note, I did jack shit in school anyways, started skipping class in 3rd or 4th grade, stole and picked fights all the time, didnt do shit anyone wanted me to do... what a shitty upbringing I had.
Anyways I can read and write, do algebra, and am constantly hearing college kids bring up studies (etc) that I was ruminating over as a punkass 12yr old.
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Re: The "Unschooling Movement" -- Keep your kids out of school and let them learn whatever they want [Re: Repertoire89]
#23902678 - 12/07/16 09:36 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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LOL at video title "Free Range Children"
Clearly a Liberal idea. But let's ruin a few kids' live and see what happens. You never know, if it works you guys might score point (or loses a ton).
Either way, I want to see this.
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Re: The "Unschooling Movement" -- Keep your kids out of school and let them learn whatever they want [Re: Crystal G]
#23902684 - 12/07/16 09:39 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crystal G said: I went to Montessori preschool. I remember enjoying it.
Are your parents wealthy? Im just curious because montessori always struck me as an eccentric thing rich people do for their children.
Really does montessori have much of an impact on a preschooler? What i recall of preschool was nap time, lunch and then pretty much playing/doing what i want with whatever/whoever around me anyways... I mean provided i wasnt pulling my pants down and pissing on other children or harming myself or others.
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Re: The "Unschooling Movement" -- Keep your kids out of school and let them learn whatever they want [Re: Patlal]
#23902694 - 12/07/16 09:43 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Patlal said: LOL at video title "Free Range Children"
Clearly a Liberal idea. But let's ruin a few kids' live and see what happens. You never know, if it works you guys might score point (or loses a ton).
Either way, I want to see this.
People who live on handouts / inheritance shouldnt comment on politics, you live in a bubble.
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Re: The "Unschooling Movement" -- Keep your kids out of school and let them learn whatever they want [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
#23902700 - 12/07/16 09:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mush 4 Brains said: Really does montessori have much of an impact on a preschooler?
I have no idea, honestly. I don't even know what the basic concept of Montessori is really.
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Re: The "Unschooling Movement" -- Keep your kids out of school and let them learn whatever they want [Re: Crystal G]
#23902701 - 12/07/16 09:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Learn fast! I took 20 credit hours per semester for a while there
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Re: The "Unschooling Movement" -- Keep your kids out of school and let them learn whatever they want [Re: Crystal G] 1
#23902706 - 12/07/16 09:48 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crystal G said:
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Mush 4 Brains said: Really does montessori have much of an impact on a preschooler?
I have no idea, honestly. I don't even know what the basic concept of Montessori is really.
your parents thought you were retarded or something
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Montessori education is an educational approach developed by Italian physician and educator Maria Montessori based on her extensive research with "phrenasthenic" or "special needs" children and characterized by an emphasis on independence, freedom within limits, and respect for a child’s natural psychological, physical, and social development
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Re: The "Unschooling Movement" -- Keep your kids out of school and let them learn whatever they want [Re: Crystal G] 2
#23902708 - 12/07/16 09:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have the perfect Terence Mckenna rebuttal to this right under the button.
Listen up, only a few minutes.
No, being dumb and ignorant is not of the same value as being intelligent and educated on a subject. No, not all opinions are equal in value.
We have to discern unless Idiocracy becomes even more a reality.
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Re: The "Unschooling Movement" -- Keep your kids out of school and let them learn whatever they want [Re: Repertoire89]
#23902709 - 12/07/16 09:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Repertoire89 said:
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Patlal said: LOL at video title "Free Range Children"
Clearly a Liberal idea. But let's ruin a few kids' live and see what happens. You never know, if it works you guys might score point (or loses a ton).
Either way, I want to see this.
People who live on handouts / inheritance shouldnt comment on politics, you live in a bubble.
special needs kids shouldnt comment on child rearing/development
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Re: The "Unschooling Movement" -- Keep your kids out of school and let them learn whatever they want [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23902710 - 12/07/16 09:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
your parents thought you were retarded or something
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Montessori education is an educational approach developed by Italian physician and educator Maria Montessori based on her extensive research with "phrenasthenic" or "special needs" children and characterized by an emphasis on independence, freedom within limits, and respect for a child’s natural psychological, physical, and social development
My momma always did tell me not to stick my hand into the blender while it's on 
That was when I was 15
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