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Trouble With BRF Cakes
    #23901769 - 12/06/16 10:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

So, I don't know what's been going on with my BRF Cakes lately but they have not been fruiting. The only things I can think of is that I'm either not using enough perlite, They aren't getting enough light or my FAE isn't enough. Also maybe the cold weather is giving me trouble. But I'm Thinking about making a smaller fruiting chamber so I only have to waste three or four cakes instead of twelve. Any experienced growers let me know your thoughts please!  :thanx:


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Re: Trouble With BRF Cakes [Re: Kredable]
    #23901796 - 12/06/16 11:05 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Please post pictures :smile:


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Re: Trouble With BRF Cakes [Re: Plazmotech]
    #23901860 - 12/06/16 11:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

pictures help the most, i know it can be difficult to figure out at first. need any help?

make sure your perlite is moist, but no water in the bottom of your tub. fan your tub 3 imes a day, and mist it once. (should look like a morning dew, very light water droplet coating)
mush respond well to circadian rhythms, as most living creatures. 65000K bulb, or sunlight 12/12.

cakes do better when theyre actually around other cakes. a chamber of 12 does better than a chamber of 4 because the use each other for micro climates, keeping each other warm, and moist.n how long have they been in fruiting?

i remember back when~ it sometimes took up to 20 days to see pinss after birthing and dunkin/rolling.

hope this helped. update with pics and well have you goin in no time! this community is awesome at helping others.


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Re: Trouble With BRF Cakes [Re: Plazmotech]
    #23901862 - 12/06/16 11:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Trouble With BRF Cakes [Re: SpicyWizard]
    #23901871 - 12/06/16 11:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for being so helpful. I'm only frustrated because I've done this exact tek before And had a pretty successful harvest in the summer. And now my cakes keep drying out.


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Re: Trouble With BRF Cakes [Re: Kredable]
    #23901883 - 12/06/16 11:36 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

do you have a fan in the room? as that may be doing the trick.

i would rub the perlite under water and clean it.
drain it and throw it back in the tub, put down your tin foil, and throw youre cakes on. you want them spaced 4-6inches apart, and adjust as needed when they fruit.

obviously your cakes arent in the tub, if theyre drying out i would throw them in a pot of water, and put it in the fridge overnight. in the morning you should re-roll your cakes in fresh myc and put em back on there respected tin foil place mats/beds
your temp seems good, maybe a tad high. 68-75 is perfect.
do you have a good spray mister/bottle?


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Re: Trouble With BRF Cakes [Re: SpicyWizard]
    #23901892 - 12/06/16 11:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

and no problem, i never would've made it here without the help from some awesome people on this forum.
    so, if you ever move onto other tubs and see someone having trouble with brf cakes, pass down the karma. :smile:


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Re: Trouble With BRF Cakes [Re: SpicyWizard]
    #23901897 - 12/06/16 11:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I have a good spray bottle, I was even misting three times a day. and they still dried out, does that like enough perlite? I've heard four to five inches.


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Re: Trouble With BRF Cakes [Re: Kredable]
    #23901905 - 12/06/16 11:41 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

yes yes, at first i used one bag in my tote and had minimal results. mush love humidity, the more the better. get another bag from your local supplier, and load'er up!

you can deff consider 4-6 inches a good depth.


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Re: Trouble With BRF Cakes [Re: Kredable]
    #23902068 - 12/07/16 01:33 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Thanks for being so helpful. I'm only frustrated because I've done this exact tek before And had a pretty successful harvest in the summer. And now my cakes keep drying out.




Winter loves to dry everything out, depending on your locale; it's a seasonal issue I run into and it typically requires much more attention, although I stopped doing cakes for anything but master jars/slurry these days.

Upping the perlite and misting is a great place to start.

Otherwise, off-hand, it's possible multi-spore genetics are causing poor pinsets/bunk cakes in addition to a dryer climate.  It happens.


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Re: Trouble With BRF Cakes [Re: SpicyWizard]
    #23902332 - 12/07/16 06:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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pictures help the most, i know it can be difficult to figure out at first. need any help?

make sure your perlite is moist, but no water in the bottom of your tub. fan your tub 3 imes a day, and mist it once. (should look like a morning dew, very light water droplet coating)
mush respond well to circadian rhythms, as most living creatures. 65000K bulb, or sunlight 12/12.

cakes do better when theyre actually around other cakes. a chamber of 12 does better than a chamber of 4 because the use each other for micro climates, keeping each other warm, and moist.n how long have they been in fruiting?

i remember back when~ it sometimes took up to 20 days to see pinss after birthing and dunkin/rolling.

hope this helped. update with pics and well have you goin in no time! this community is awesome at helping others.



Close... Very close... Up the perlite to at least 4" , I go 4-6"... Don't bother fanning at all unless you for some reason hella over misted, even then I don't fan...they don't "respond well" to a circadian rhythm, they HAVE a circadian rhythm... 6500 Kelvin daylight bulb... Keep your cakes huddled pretty close to eachother (not touching) until you see knots, as stated it will help with the micro climate...



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Re: Trouble With BRF Cakes [Re: LocN9ne]
    #23902366 - 12/07/16 06:41 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

It looks like your tub is on the floor?
Try to get it up off of the floor, warm air rises the floor will be the coolest part of any room.
Also it looks like you need more perlite in there.
I'd agree with resoaking the perlite and hault the fanning. 
Most 3-5 times daily if too dry.....
Keep us posted :grin:
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Re: Trouble With BRF Cakes [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23902624 - 12/07/16 09:04 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

It's on four 1/2 pint jars but i'm gonna elevate a few more inches for sure.
Also thanks for all the help, I fucking love this community  :rockon:


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Re: Trouble With BRF Cakes [Re: Kredable]
    #23902635 - 12/07/16 09:08 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Put it on a table or something man.
The floor is a terrible place for a FC.
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Re: Trouble With BRF Cakes [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23902639 - 12/07/16 09:09 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Trouble With BRF Cakes [Re: Kredable]
    #23902683 - 12/07/16 09:38 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

More perlite and more patients :thumbup:
Also where tf are your cakes?? They're supposed to be inside your fruiting chamber lol

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Re: Trouble With BRF Cakes [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23903007 - 12/07/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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More perlite and more patients :thumbup:
Also where tf are your cakes?? They're supposed to be inside your fruiting chamber lol

Edit: I'm going to be corrected on my spelling here any second



I will refrain :lol:


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Re: Trouble With BRF Cakes [Re: LocN9ne]
    #23905579 - 12/08/16 12:09 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

ralphraven18 said:

mush respond well to circadian rhythms, as most living creatures. 65000K bulb, or sunlight 12/12.





Close... Very close... Up the perlite to at least 4" , I go 4-6"... Don't bother fanning at all unless you for some reason hella over misted, even then I don't fan...they don't "respond well" to a circadian rhythm, they HAVE a circadian rhythm... 6500 Kelvin daylight bulb... Keep your cakes huddled pretty close to eachother (not touching) until you see knots, as stated it will help with the micro climate...






no, mushrooms can have light on them 24/7 and still continue to grow, its just not beneficial for fruiting, or colonization. i tested this with a tub about a year ago.  they respond well to circadian rhythms.

"We used to think it best to 'shock' the mycelium with the sudden presence of light, timed with the application of the other pinning triggers, but I just never really found any evidence to support it.
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13shrooms said (mod): "12on/off of 56k or natural room lighting (sun through the windows) is recommended for fruiting."

"mycelium colony needs to establish a circadian rhythm " -mozartvicious

establish. not sure if mushrooms sleep... they dont have a rhythm until you create it dude

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Re: Trouble With BRF Cakes [Re: SpicyWizard]
    #23905592 - 12/08/16 12:19 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

awesome!! this thread has answered the same questions ive got, being in the same sort of stage, im buying more perlite tomorrow!


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Re: Trouble With BRF Cakes [Re: M44]
    #23905602 - 12/08/16 12:25 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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awesome!! this thread has answered the same questions ive got, being in the same sort of stage, im buying more perlite tomorrow!



welcome aboard brother! if you have any questions or would like to start a grow log, start a thread! thats the best way to get these babies rollin. patience is key in this profession. make sure hyou have a way to upload pictures, as that is going to be your best bet at getting any help you may need. (every tub is different, every environment is different.)
just practice and read, youll be doin great in no time.


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