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1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit
#23901522 - 12/06/16 09:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Okay, so atoms apparently did stuff or protons or whatever the fuck. Whatever supposedly happened according to the big bang theory, is false. Here's 1 simple reason why it's bull.
Where did the things come from that made the big bang theory occur?
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Ancestoralbeings] 1
#23901532 - 12/06/16 09:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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What are you doing.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: The Blind Ass]
#23901539 - 12/06/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's an infinitely dense black hole, condensed energy anti matter.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Ancestoralbeings] 2
#23901541 - 12/06/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't think you understand. The theory would indicate a method of creation for THIS universe. Nothing can be proven to say that time is not.. timeless.. and if there is multiple creations and destructions of universes then how would you have any evidence of something potentially endless in time from the point in which you wish to study it? I think you're caught on something that's half way to what might evolve this thought process for you. The socratic method means to not stop asking questions.. you stopped asking questions.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: The Blind Ass]
#23901544 - 12/06/16 09:36 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Blind Ass said: What are you doing.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: larry.fisherman]
#23901553 - 12/06/16 09:38 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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King Klick said: It's an infinitely dense black hole, condensed energy anti matter.
okay, tell me where that came from
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XLCaps said: I don't think you understand. The theory would indicate a method of creation for THIS universe. Nothing can be proven to say that time is not.. timeless.. and if there is multiple creations and destructions of universes then how would you have any evidence of something potentially endless in time from the point in which you wish to study it? I think you're caught on something that's half way to what might evolve this thought process for you. The socratic method means to not stop asking questions.. you stopped asking questions.
Time is a dimension. A universe consists of everything in existence, there is just other dimensions we cannot see or sense, also other "planes" of existence.
EDIT- okay not saying this definitely but that is at least what i believe. But there actually is other dimensions.
Edited by Ancestoralbeings (12/06/16 09:39 PM)
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
#23901564 - 12/06/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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A plane is a dimension, dimensions are your level of understanding and perception of the world around you. It's all literally right in front of your face and the lower levels are quantum by comparison to the more evolved ones. Time is not a dimension and a universe does not encompass all of existence. You have no idea what is beyond the edge of space. It is more likely that there are more galaxies and such than it is for it to be just an edge of something.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
#23901566 - 12/06/16 09:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ah ok. Do this for me - a thought experiment. Retrace everything from Now backwards till the big bang and keep going till something stops you. Then tell me what it is that blocked you from going further.
Or if your able to get over the trap that is ad infinitum and go further tell me what you see.
One bang?! your right to question it.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: The Blind Ass]
#23901573 - 12/06/16 09:43 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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It doesnt take but a few tries to get further than and past the "big bang".
What the hell is the imagination/mind for if you cant play with it for these very reasons?
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: larry.fisherman]
#23901578 - 12/06/16 09:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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XLCaps said: A plane is a dimension, dimensions are your level of understanding and perception of the world around you. It's all literally right in front of your face and the lower levels are quantum by comparison to the more evolved ones. Time is not a dimension and a universe does not encompass all of existence. You have no idea what is beyond the edge of space. It is more likely that there are more galaxies and such than it is for it to be just an edge of something.
That is true, and i had the definition of planes and dimensions misunderstood, apologies.
I completely agree with you. I'm talking to all the people who believe in the big bang theory, asking about the things that they think took place to create the universe, where do they think that came from.
Not arguing for christianity at all, i don't believe in the christian god.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: The Blind Ass]
#23901583 - 12/06/16 09:47 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Blind Ass said: Ah ok. Do this for me - a thought experiment. Retrace everything from Now backwards till the big bang and keep going till something stops you. Then tell me what it is that blocked you from going further.
Or if your able to get over the trap that is ad infinitum and go further tell me what you see.
One bang?! your right to question it.
I have absolutely no idea what happened before that, if it happened at all. I;m simply asking the big bang theory believers, if the big bang created the universe, what happened before that to make the things that made the big bang theory occur? That was a horrible way i just worded that.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
#23901607 - 12/06/16 09:56 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quantum physics, get back at me when you have a degree in the subject, besides The Big Bang theory. Why is this posted in this forum.thread? This entire forum was built on helping and advising other through experience via psychedelics.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: thelastoneleft]
#23901622 - 12/06/16 10:00 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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because "Quantum physics" i've taken physics in college, definitely don't know everything on the subject but explain to me exactly what you mean. And i don't know i am new here haven't completely figured all that out yet.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
#23901644 - 12/06/16 10:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Your post makes no intelligent point
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: thelastoneleft]
#23901661 - 12/06/16 10:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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My post makes more of an intelligent point than your comment if you are not willing to refer to exactly what you are talking about when you said quantum physics
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
#23901682 - 12/06/16 10:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Two years of my life studying quantum physics, you opine that I can explain it to you in a single post correlating to your original post? I will give you this, a photon is a single quantum, now back track to your ideals via energy.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: thelastoneleft]
#23901693 - 12/06/16 10:23 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm not going to sit here and act like i know what that means.
However, the big bang theory states the universe and time happened from some molecule or atom doing something blah blah blah, what does quantum physics have to do with matter existing before apparently the universe did?
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
#23901719 - 12/06/16 10:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Basically the universe was once the size of a point. Then the big bang happened, which blew all the stuff contained in this incredibly dense point across space. Its been expanding since.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
#23901732 - 12/06/16 10:38 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ancestoralbeings said: I'm not going to sit here and act like i know what that means.
However, the big bang theory states the universe and time happened from some molecule or atom doing something blah blah blah, what does quantum physics have to do with matter existing before apparently the universe did?
"what does quantum physics have to do with matter existing before apparently the universe did?"
Mathematically research a basis on the subject. Theories are not ideally justified, as the Big Bang theory..
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: The Mycologist]
#23901742 - 12/06/16 10:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The universe is similar to a fractal .. and even if you think logically everything has to go back to a source point .. we are the universe and the universe is us all interconnected in an ineffable scheme
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: connectedcosmos]
#23901924 - 12/06/16 11:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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For anyone who's interested, time definitely is a dimension, at least in terms of how 'dimension' is used in physics. It isn't just a human construct, and exists just as much as any spatial dimension. Entropy always increases with time, making it an arrow of sorts which points in the direction that time flows. People have also directly measured time dilation several times using atomic clocks. It's pretty amazing stuff.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Matai]
#23901938 - 12/06/16 11:53 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Matai said: For anyone who's interested, time definitely is a dimension, at least in terms of how 'dimension' is used in physics. It isn't just a human construct, and exists just as much as any spatial dimension. Entropy always increases with time, making it an arrow of sorts which points in the direction that time flows. People have also directly measured time dilation several times using atomic clocks. It's pretty amazing stuff.
On it goes..
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: thelastoneleft]
#23902026 - 12/07/16 12:53 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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M theory. Hyper dimensional membranes in 11th dimension space(the bulk) colliding(bang) then separating(expansion). That's one theory, another is the vacuum of space curving into near infinite density then exploding causing the bang. Just saying there are lots of things that could've taken place before the Big Bang, could've been Jesus sitting on a freaking throne for all I know( but I doubt that one).
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Cajun love]
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: DerPda]
#23902573 - 12/07/16 08:42 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you can believe the universe came from nothing for no reason in a single instant then you can believe anything. If science gets 1 free miracle then any theory should get 1 free miracle
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
#23902591 - 12/07/16 08:47 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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the big bang theory is god damned bullshit
I totally agree.
The Big bang theory and Black holes - total bullshit dreamed up by acedemics and the science-media just to have something to talk about. You can't flip through the channels without coming across some grinning, pinhead non-scientist explaining this crap. And the explanation always goes to "what the fuck is he talking about" territory. They have to admit that they have no idea and stop with this speculative BS. Don't fall for their arrogance, regard it as academic double speak and nothing more. It's all about getting grants, teaching lessons, making TV documentaries about shit that is TOTALLY MEANINGLESS. There's plenty of real information in this world, don't waist time with this. Admit that the unknown is that way because it's unknowable.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Universe]
#23902808 - 12/07/16 10:27 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Scientists cannot prove the Big Bang Theory, like no theory can be proven, just debunked. That is how science works. Furthermore, the big bang is one possible consequence of the theory of the expansion of the universe. This does not mean, that the idea of the big bang is correct. But many measurements support this idea and right now it is considered as the "least wrong" theory of how it all began. Apart from that, people think about the big bang as some kind of explosion, but what is actually meant, is the beginning of space and time itself. Without the existance of those two, how would one be able to describe, what actually happened? The big bang is the frontier of what humans are able to realize about the beginning of this world. It is a verbal construct. You could name the beginning as you wish, you still would just be able to theorize and to measure as close to the beginning as possible, but you will never know exactly.
Of course one can easily doubt scientists. But I would recommend to study physics first and then come up with a better idea, before hitting that all bullshit button.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Universe]
#23903283 - 12/07/16 12:59 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Universe said: I totally agree.
The Big bang theory and Black holes - total bullshit dreamed up by acedemics and the science-media just to have something to talk about. You can't flip through the channels without coming across some grinning, pinhead non-scientist explaining this crap. And the explanation always goes to "what the fuck is he talking about" territory. They have to admit that they have no idea and stop with this speculative BS. Don't fall for their arrogance, regard it as academic double speak and nothing more. It's all about getting grants, teaching lessons, making TV documentaries about shit that is TOTALLY MEANINGLESS. There's plenty of real information in this world, don't waist time with this. Admit that the unknown is that way because it's unknowable.
There's plenty of evidence to suggest that black holes exist, read through this if you like. I don't see how you can accuse scientists of arrogance but also maintain that modern cosmology is nothing more than a talking point. That's vastly more arrogant, in my opinion.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
#23903744 - 12/07/16 02:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ancestoralbeings said:
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King Klick said: It's an infinitely dense black hole, condensed energy anti matter.
okay, tell me where that came from
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XLCaps said: I don't think you understand. The theory would indicate a method of creation for THIS universe. Nothing can be proven to say that time is not.. timeless.. and if there is multiple creations and destructions of universes then how would you have any evidence of something potentially endless in time from the point in which you wish to study it? I think you're caught on something that's half way to what might evolve this thought process for you. The socratic method means to not stop asking questions.. you stopped asking questions.
Time is a dimension. A universe consists of everything in existence, there is just other dimensions we cannot see or sense, also other "planes" of existence.
EDIT- okay not saying this definitely but that is at least what i believe. But there actually is other dimensions.
I don't think you understand what energy, anti-matter is. Don't get me wrong I can't explain it well either. But I don't think you get the concept.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: DerPda]
#23903873 - 12/07/16 03:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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DerPda said:
Of course one can easily doubt scientists. But I would recommend to study physics first and then come up with a better idea, before hitting that all bullshit button.
Physics has nothing to do with things existing before time did.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
#23904500 - 12/07/16 06:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Big Bang does not say "everything started from nothing". It doesnt currently explain before the start of the Big Bang, it only explains the Big Bang at the moment that the Universe started.
Some other theories suggest that the Universe is a cycle of Big Bangs over and over, during an immense amount of time into the past. Thats my belief, that the Universe is cyclical not "this is the first time from nothing".
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#23904899 - 12/07/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I understand OP's idea and it's pretty interesting, you must have been very high.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
#23904906 - 12/07/16 07:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Edit; Nevermind, I'm not going to even engage in this thread.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: PumpJackTeX]
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I thought he was saying, how could have time progressed from an infinitely condensed point to where it is now, as a dimension, as a fact of the universe. Bit of logic.
idk probably exposed that sometimes I don't even think before I post.
Also I imagine the theoretical physicists have thought about it.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: beforethedawn]
#23905885 - 12/08/16 06:23 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you think about it too much your head explodes...
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: PrimalSoup]
#23906101 - 12/08/16 08:49 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: If you think about it too much your head explodes...
And that's how the big bang happened
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Trypto-Fan]
#23908660 - 12/08/16 10:26 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Guys, time is a dimension and it by very definition did not exist before the big bang. Time and space came out of the big bang, that is why we can't explain what happened before it because there literally is no before it, nor is there a where for anything to take place. At the beginning of the universe there were no fundamental particles at all, it was just pure energy and as things cooled the dimensions unfolded and the energy collapsed into particles.
We can't really say for sure what happened at the literal beginning of time because our understanding breaks down. Think about it, it literally doesn't make sense, when would time begin? If there is no time for it to begin then it never will, and if it does exist then relatively speaking it always has. It doesn't mean there is nothing more than our universe, but it is hard to define terms to even speak of it. It is perfectly valid to have universes without a time or spacial dimension, you can have probably any number of either of them in fact, but again it's not a reality which you can really picture because we do so in terms of this one. I don't put a lot of faith in the big bang actually existing though, it may, but it seems kind of premature to me. It's as if we stumbled upon a needle in a hay stack and concluded we must be in a needle stack.
Also time is really no different than space, they are fundamentally linked, just as the three spacial dimensions are. You can't move in space without moving in time or vice versa. That's why you can't go the speed of light, all of your being would be in the time dimension and none in the spacial dimensions so where would you actually be traveling? You can't travel if there's nothing to travel through. Think of it as a spacial dimension that only goes in one direction and it makes a lot more sense. This has been proven by Einstein and many technologies we use today would not exist without our understanding of this.
edit: And just to clarify I'm not saying any of this is true, I can't know any more than you, but this is the commonly agreed upon view of the big bang theory.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#23908712 - 12/08/16 10:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sounds about right.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Universe]
#23908718 - 12/08/16 10:41 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Universe said:
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the big bang theory is god damned bullshit
I totally agree.
The Big bang theory and Black holes - total bullshit dreamed up by acedemics and the science-media just to have something to talk about. You can't flip through the channels without coming across some grinning, pinhead non-scientist explaining this crap. And the explanation always goes to "what the fuck is he talking about" territory. They have to admit that they have no idea and stop with this speculative BS. Don't fall for their arrogance, regard it as academic double speak and nothing more. It's all about getting grants, teaching lessons, making TV documentaries about shit that is TOTALLY MEANINGLESS. There's plenty of real information in this world, don't waist time with this. Admit that the unknown is that way because it's unknowable.
Black holes exist for sure, we've observed them. They're very common.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: krypto2000]
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the big bang theory is god damned bullshit
I totally agree.
The Big bang theory and Black holes - total bullshit dreamed up by acedemics and the science-media just to have something to talk about. You can't flip through the channels without coming across some grinning, pinhead non-scientist explaining this crap. And the explanation always goes to "what the fuck is he talking about" territory. They have to admit that they have no idea and stop with this speculative BS. Don't fall for their arrogance, regard it as academic double speak and nothing more. It's all about getting grants, teaching lessons, making TV documentaries about shit that is TOTALLY MEANINGLESS. There's plenty of real information in this world, don't waist time with this. Admit that the unknown is that way because it's unknowable.
Black holes exist for sure, we've observed them. They're very common.
Black hole exist in the universe PERIOD
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
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Ancestoralbeings said: Okay, so atoms apparently did stuff or protons or whatever the fuck. Whatever supposedly happened according to the big bang theory, is false. Here's 1 simple reason why it's bull.
Where did the things come from that made the big bang theory occur?
there's a thing called "string theory" which 90% of the physicists in the world agree upon. this universe probably didn't have rules before the unstable energy in it collided and expanded. there is no way today to track down what exactly happened all those many years ago. remember that even nothing is something.
And for the one called BS on black holes, that just plain stupid. maybe they can't be seen by a human eye (check human color spectrum) but they've been observed and approved by mathematics for a long time now. it's calling bullshit on a FACT, which again... just plain stupid.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: psilosalvia]
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Black holes are definitely a thing, and i do agree with string theory. You said nothing existed before the big bang. Well, think about that for a second. Nothing can't come out of nothing. Something HAD to be there before. There is like 11 dimensions, though.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Ancestoralbeings] 1
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Ancestoralbeings said: Okay, so atoms apparently did stuff or protons or whatever the fuck. Whatever supposedly happened according to the big bang theory, is false. Here's 1 simple reason why it's bull.
Where did the things come from that made the big bang theory occur?
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
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Ancestoralbeings said: Okay, so atoms apparently did stuff or protons or whatever the fuck. Whatever supposedly happened according to the big bang theory, is false. Here's 1 simple reason why it's bull.
Where did the things come from that made the big bang theory occur?
The teleological attractor beyond space and time. Everything in all dimensions of this universe is being pulled toward the attractor in what amounts to reverse causality, so the future created the universe and extended it all the way back to the big bang according to some logic science has yet to illuminate. Terence had it figured out, he saw it in his DMT visions.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: ballsalsa]
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Confused on what exactly he was trying to say nothing looks like, he said the back of you're head. if i'm not mistaken our eyes are in front and just because we cant see the back of our head, it is still there. That guy sounds just like charlie day...
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Alyssa]
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Ancestoralbeings said: Okay, so atoms apparently did stuff or protons or whatever the fuck. Whatever supposedly happened according to the big bang theory, is false. Here's 1 simple reason why it's bull.
Where did the things come from that made the big bang theory occur?
The teleological attractor beyond space and time. Everything in all dimensions of this universe is being pulled toward the attractor in what amounts to reverse causality, so the future created the universe and extended it all the way back to the big bang according to some logic science has yet to illuminate. Terence had it figured out, he saw it in his DMT visions.
I've listened to every speech and video i could possibly find abut terrence mckenna and i have never heard of him talking about this. So you're saying the future created the past and that's logical. The past would've already had to be there for there to be a future. I now see why people rated you what they did
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
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he was just saying that "nothing" doesn't look like anything because you can't see it because it isn't there. Thats not the important part. watch another couple minutes while he talks about the universe creating itself from itself.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said: he was just saying that "nothing" doesn't look like anything because you can't see it because it isn't there. Thats not the important part. watch another couple minutes while he talks about the universe creating itself from itself.
Why would i believe someone that tried saying (basically) nothing looks like the back of your head, you can't see it. Theres not some cape back there, but you can't see it. What sense does that make trying to say how the universe looked like nothing because it wasn't there. According to him the back of your head isn't there because you can't see it.
Lost me on that idiotic concept.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
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ballsalsa said: he was just saying that "nothing" doesn't look like anything because you can't see it because it isn't there. Thats not the important part. watch another couple minutes while he talks about the universe creating itself from itself.
Why would i believe someone that tried saying (basically) nothing looks like the back of your head, you can't see it. Theres not some cape back there, but you can't see it. What sense does that make trying to say how the universe looked like nothing because it wasn't there. According to him the back of your head isn't there because you can't see it.
Lost me on that idiotic concept.
Right. I'll bet that you are lost most of the time. I'm sure that the physics professor from princeton is the idiot, and not you.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: ballsalsa]
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I don't know hardly anything about physics, if my college professor said something like that in the middle of a lecture i would walk out and request a new one.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
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I've noticed that.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
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Terence McKenna - The Strange Attractor
Instead of claiming to be a Terence McKenna expert, which you're clearly not, you could have done a simple youtube search. I have listened to all his speeches and know everything he had to say, you do not.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Alyssa]
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I watched the transcendental object at the end of time, and remember him stating that, however what you said was a little bit more vague.
I also don't agree with that, theres a few things he's said i dont agree with, but neither does his brother.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
#23912001 - 12/10/16 01:59 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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It is still a mystery. There are many theories such as colliding multiverse, quantum fluctuations, and eternal existence. Theres a lot of evidence for the big bang happening, but no one really knows what happened before. There are tons of videos out there on you tube you can check out.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Emacov]
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
#23962438 - 12/28/16 10:40 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Blind Ass said: Ah ok. Do this for me - a thought experiment. Retrace everything from Now backwards till the big bang and keep going till something stops you. Then tell me what it is that blocked you from going further.
Or if your able to get over the trap that is ad infinitum and go further tell me what you see.
One bang?! your right to question it.
I have absolutely no idea what happened before that, if it happened at all. I;m simply asking the big bang theory believers, if the big bang created the universe, what happened before that to make the things that made the big bang theory occur? That was a horrible way i just worded that.
It's called 'the first cause' and it's what many regard as 'God'.
Some people assume that people who believe in God don't believe in the Big Bang (or evolution), but most do. They know 'God' to be the first cause.
The Big Bang illustrates fragmentation and split from a single point which functions perfectly to the God philosophy.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
#23962669 - 12/28/16 12:23 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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All matter is moved in something, by something bigger and greater than it. Every effect has a cause. This is how easy i can turn back the big bang
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: gent]
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Bazinga.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: stepgranpep]
#23963415 - 12/28/16 05:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think Terrance Mckenna has spoken directly about the big bang theory on several occasions and said something to the extent of: The big bang theory is like science saying give us one free miracle and we can explain away all of the rest.
Whenever I encounter a scientific theory I try to resist the urge to interpret it as an absolute answer or as a dogmatically fixed idea. 
It is natural as we come to understand more about the universe that old theories must be amended or replaced with better ideas. 
Science should not be a dogmatic affair, especially after newtons theories got turned upside down. 
Mckennas theories concerning the Iching basically state that the universe is in a process of compounding novelty in the form of knowledge, information, sentience, and complex interactions. 
Robert Anton Wilson called this process the jumping Jesus Phenomenon. 
The jumping jesus phenomenon measures the amount of time it takes for human knowledge to double. 
Starting at the birth of Christ (this is in no way an advocacy of Christianity) with the center of knowledge being the Roman empire the first doubling of knowledge (measured by the collective known facts of human civilization) occurs by the year 1500.
The second doubling occurs by the year 1750. The third doubling occurs by the year 1900 and the center has moved to Great Britian at this point.
The Third doubling occurs by 1960 and the center has moved to New York.
This is where it gets interesting: the fourth doubling occurs by the year 1967.
The Jumping jesus phenomenon shows that the time it takes for the doubling of knowledge occur has been rapidly shortening while the center of knowledge has been moving westwards.
Mckennas Iching graphs show that by 2012 the collective knowledge should be doubling every nanosecond or something like that. 
Wilson observes that with the rise of the internet the knowledge does not appear to have a static center as it is just circulating the world at the speed of internet.
Basically according to Mckennas theory time is a process of compounding novelty into a massive explosion of information (a sort of big bang, if you will). 
Leary called the invention of the internet "The LSD of the 1990s." 
Living in a post 2012 world we can clearly see the information revolution coming along just fine.
If we want to know anything about anything we can just google it. Some statistics estimate that there are something like 300 trillion websites as well (old figure, as I'm sure it is more by now). 
Maybe the big bang just seems mysterious because we do not understand the mechanism that made it possible yet. 
I believe that scientists have also traced the origin of what appears to be the big bang to a super massive black hole at the center of the universe. 
We probably will not understand the mechanism entirely until we can look inside a black hole or communicate with one.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: psychedelicliz]
#23963452 - 12/28/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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When 'science' applies, it only refers to the rules of game thats been given, by a hand that's beyond those rules.
Assuming that game of Monopoly applies to everything, would see one in an endless loop of buying plastic houses when they actually just want to witness the joy of Christmas lunch.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
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Is it still relevant that matter cannot be created or destroyed?
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
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Ancestoralbeings said: Okay, so atoms apparently did stuff or protons or whatever the fuck. Whatever supposedly happened according to the big bang theory, is false. Here's 1 simple reason why it's bull.
Where did the things come from that made the big bang theory occur?
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: PsilosisCubencybe]
#23970419 - 12/31/16 10:40 AM (7 years, 30 days ago) |
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PsilosisCubencybe said: Time is not a dimension, its an illusion
Why can't it be both?
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#23970428 - 12/31/16 10:43 AM (7 years, 30 days ago) |
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A lot of stupid shit has been said in this thread.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: krypto2000]
#23970457 - 12/31/16 10:55 AM (7 years, 30 days ago) |
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Clearly, there have been many, many HUGE explosions in the universe or multi-verse going back billions and billions of years. The question is, is there ONE explosion that started or re-started it all?
Probably not. The big bang as we call it may soon be understand as one of many bangs that happen throughout a universe that is actually infinite universes co-existing and/or layered one on top of another in ways our human mind just can't grasp yet.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: krypto2000]
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krypto2000 said: A lot of stupid shit has been said in this thread.
Agreed.
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Re: 1 simple reason the big bang theory is god damned bullshit [Re: pinedownpioneer]
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