Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
OfflineMattMVS7
Stranger
Registered: 10/23/16
Posts: 32
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
An experiment to test if soul is leaving body during trips
    #23898305 - 12/05/16 09:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The AWARE study is considering near death experiences as the soul leaving the body and visiting other spiritual realms.  The 2nd phase of the AWARE study is going to place cards with numbers in such a position that only a person out of their body could see.  This study is lead by Sam Parnia.

Some would consider psychedelic trips to be like ndes.  There are reports from people who have these trips that they see their spirit body hovering above and connected to their physical body via a blue-like umbilical cord.  This is also what we see in near death experiences (ndes).

If ndes and psychedelic trips are really the soul leaving the body, then maybe we can perform this experiment that Sam Parnia is leading.  Go get a friend who can place a numbered card on top of the ceiling/roof or perhaps some other object, take a psychedelic drug, and when you come back from the trip, see if you have witnessed that object or numbered card.

Some would consider ndes and trips to be hallucinations, but I am open to the possibility that they could be the soul leaving the body.  I am very curious as to what people will report back here.  Hopefully we will actually have some people who have witnessed those objects/numbered cards that they couldn't of possibly witnessed otherwise.  I realize that these experiments have to be controlled and set up properly, but you can do that at your own home.

If I was the one setting up this experiment and I saw that numbered card or object, I would be completely convinced of the soul leaving the body.  It would be a personal conviction since I would of set everything up properly and there would of been no other possible way that I could of seen them otherwise.  I know that skeptics wouldn't be convinced, but this would be my own personal conviction.

Edited by MattMVS7 (12/05/16 09:13 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineOakTree
Schmoak Tree
 User Gallery
Registered: 10/31/16
Posts: 509
Loc: I'm right here!
Last seen: 8 months, 23 days
Re: An experiment to test if soul is leaving body during trips [Re: MattMVS7]
    #23898333 - 12/05/16 09:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I was just about to log off and go to bed but figured I'd bump real quick so I could come back tomorrow and see some replies.

I am extremely fascinated with NDEs and the AWARE program, and I believe that consciousness entails more than what we currently know.

This experiment is very interesting; there have been so many of these type experiences that even the most skeptical person can use their skepticism and rationalism to step back and say "Ok, on the surface it doesn't make sense that person A was able to recall object B in room C while person A was comatose in room D, yet it happened.  Now what?"

There is more to consciousness than we know.  Not entirely sure what it entails, but that's the point.

Great thread.

p.s. check out www.near-death.com and www.iands.org. ; Avoid the advertisements and religious opinion pieces and just sift through the testimonials; there is more than enough to entertain you for years.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineOakTree
Schmoak Tree
 User Gallery
Registered: 10/31/16
Posts: 509
Loc: I'm right here!
Last seen: 8 months, 23 days
Re: An experiment to test if soul is leaving body during trips [Re: OakTree]
    #23898343 - 12/05/16 09:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

www.iands.org

putting a period after it makes the link invalid.  I'm sure the OP is aware of these sites, but to anyone who comes across this thread and becomes interested, these two sites are great starting points.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinePrimalSoup
hyperspatial illuminations
Other User Gallery


Registered: 11/17/09
Posts: 13,568
Loc: PNW Flag
Last seen: 1 year, 6 months
Re: An experiment to test if soul is leaving body during trips [Re: OakTree]
    #23898414 - 12/05/16 09:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Out of body experiences are really nothing like an ordinary trip.


--------------------

if you stand too close to the machine it'll start to eat you
Primal's simple tested teks and projects: :awesomenod: Wheat Prep 2.0  Acidic Tea Tek  Potency Project! 

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMattMVS7
Stranger
Registered: 10/23/16
Posts: 32
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: An experiment to test if soul is leaving body during trips [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #23898429 - 12/05/16 09:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

PrimalSoup said:
Out of body experiences are really nothing like an ordinary trip.




People do have out of body experiences during some of their trips though.  So that is what this experiment is set up for.  I am trying to see if the soul is not only leaving the body during ndes, but also during those trips that involve out of body experiences and visits to whole new worlds.

Edited by MattMVS7 (12/05/16 09:55 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinePrimalSoup
hyperspatial illuminations
Other User Gallery


Registered: 11/17/09
Posts: 13,568
Loc: PNW Flag
Last seen: 1 year, 6 months
Re: An experiment to test if soul is leaving body during trips [Re: MattMVS7]
    #23898463 - 12/05/16 10:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah of course but ordinary tripping is not the "soul leaving the body".  These are different sorts of things.  You can easily induce out of body experiences completely sober.  :shrug:

I would set it up so that the "soul" goes off to view the winning powerball lottery ticket #s though, no chance of fixing that ahead of time. :thumbup:


--------------------

if you stand too close to the machine it'll start to eat you
Primal's simple tested teks and projects: :awesomenod: Wheat Prep 2.0  Acidic Tea Tek  Potency Project! 

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Tripping alone!
( 1 2 all )
Kemist 11,535 35 09/07/20 07:46 AM
by Universe
* Different trip from different strain myth! Fd3000 5,997 19 07/25/02 03:00 AM
by Fd3000
* What's the damage to your body? Caiooo 992 8 09/05/02 07:26 AM
by Caiooo
* Whats ur crazyest trip "vision"? Legoulash 2,403 15 01/09/03 11:02 AM
by metalchimp
* 1 hour trip? Fd3000 1,665 7 08/19/02 06:24 AM
by SoFarNorth
* Chemical for testing shrooms? Peace_Patrol 893 5 06/06/02 07:55 PM
by Peace_Patrol
* tripping alone? Synthincog_Nito 3,241 18 06/12/02 06:10 AM
by Leya
* Re: where was the coolest place you ever tripped on shrooms?
( 1 2 all )
Anonymous 6,158 32 02/15/00 04:16 AM
by Anonymous

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: psilocybinjunkie, Rose, mushboy, LogicaL Chaos, Northerner, bodhisatta
213 topic views. 2 members, 52 guests and 12 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.02 seconds spending 0.005 seconds on 12 queries.