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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Invisiblesudly
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Re: How much do you know? [Re: DisoRDeR]
    #23895274 - 12/04/16 09:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think most people see this.


But I see this.
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The more we know, the more we know there is to know.




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Re: How much do you know? [Re: beforethedawn] * 1
    #23895384 - 12/04/16 10:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I know that I am conscious.

I don't really know anything apart from that, but there are an apparently infinite number of propositions to which I assign a truth value between 0.00001 (this being the chances of sudly losing his virginity in the next 24 hours) to 0.99999 (this being the chance that I will choose to smoke a joint from my stash in the next 24 hours).


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Re: How much do you know? [Re: viktor]
    #23895394 - 12/04/16 10:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

*You are conscious and you are sentient and you should know that you evolved.
:jah:


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Re: How much do you know? [Re: sudly] * 1
    #23895536 - 12/04/16 11:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I don't know that I evolved :shrug:


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Re: How much do you know? [Re: viktor]
    #23895546 - 12/04/16 11:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Then you're pretty ignorant :shrug:
And since ignorance just means not knowing..


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Re: How much do you know? [Re: sudly]
    #23895802 - 12/05/16 02:37 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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*You are conscious and you are sentient and you should know that you evolved.
:jah:




What if evolution isn't exactly what you think it is? Would you say then, that you know you evolved? :eatsmoke:

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Re: How much do you know? [Re: Hobozen]
    #23895824 - 12/05/16 03:06 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think evolution is the accumulation of minuscule changes in the DNA of an organism over thousands of generations that allows them to adapt to their environment and survive.

Plus scientists can see and track evolution in the lab as seen in Richard Lenski's long term E.coli experiment.
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The E. coli long-term evolution experiment (LTEE) is an ongoing study in experimental evolution led by Richard Lenski that has been tracking genetic changes in 12 initially identical populations of asexual Escherichia coli bacteria since 24 February 1988. The populations reached the milestone of 50,000 generations in February 2010 and 66,000 in November 2016.

Over the course of the experiment, Lenski and his colleagues have reported a wide array of phenotypic and genotypic changes in the evolving populations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._coli_long-term_evolution_experiment




With evidence in genetics, fossils, geology and microbiology evolution is scientific fact, just as the theories of gravity and electromagnetism are.


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Re: How much do you know? [Re: Lucis]
    #23895834 - 12/05/16 03:31 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I learned that what we see is not universal truth, it is not objective reality, what we see is a unique personal virtually reality that is masterfully constructed by our brain.

What you see is a complex mental construction of your own making but you experience it passively as a direct representation of the world around you, you create your own reality and you believe it.





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Re: How much do you know? [Re: pineninja] * 1
    #23895893 - 12/05/16 05:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm gonna put you on ignore, which I don't like doing but we I you just cant be civil and its not worth it anyway.:thumbup:



A surprise move on the part of a Ninja, deleting himself from the gene-pool as it were.

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Re: How much do you know? [Re: sudly]
    #23895897 - 12/05/16 05:29 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

sudly
you just came into another thread and tried to turn it into your personal treatise again, people are complaining and you are delighted.
this is not a lovely pattern.


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Re: How much do you know? [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
    #23895902 - 12/05/16 05:37 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hail sudly :bow2:

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Re: How much do you know? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23895910 - 12/05/16 05:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

To treatise the reality of the human experience sounds nice.

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Treatise: a written work dealing formally and systematically with a subject.




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Re: How much do you know? [Re: sudly]
    #23895920 - 12/05/16 06:04 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)


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Re: How much do you know? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #23895927 - 12/05/16 06:10 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I meant treatising the reality of the human experience as in writing a thesis on the subject of the evolution of sentience from a viewpoint of modern evolutionary synthesis.


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Re: How much do you know? [Re: Buster_Brown] * 1
    #23896264 - 12/05/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Though a vague definition, Robert Anton Wilson said that all you can know is what you tune into. Nothing new, just different words to poetise the basic idea that so much shit comes at you constantly that your brain needs to filter past most of it so that you can go about your day.

As for the possibility of being able to tune into the philosophers stone/holy grail of truth... It most likely becomes uncomprehendable to us. Think about the psychedelic experience, if you were convinced that you'd come face to face with the Akashic records/etc, wouldn't it stand to reason that that would be totally beyond our understanding, just data streams that form into geometric art.
and so each person draws their own conclusions, takes what they need and leaves the rest.

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Re: How much do you know? [Re: SnowGypsy]
    #23898221 - 12/05/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

"wouldn't it stand to reason that that would be totally beyond our understanding, just data streams that form into geometric art."
Nice.:thumbup:


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Re: How much do you know? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #23898231 - 12/05/16 08:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Buster_Brown said:
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pineninja said:
I'm gonna put you on ignore, which I don't like doing but we I you just cant be civil and its not worth it anyway.:thumbup:



A surprise move on the part of a Ninja, deleting himself from the gene-pool as it were.



Not the pool I want to be swimming in, as it is.


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Re: How much do you know? [Re: pineninja]
    #23898247 - 12/05/16 08:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: How much do you know? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #23898274 - 12/05/16 08:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think this explains my perception of this concept. I become compulsive with educating myself on any subject, I couldn't care what it is I just love learning. But you start to come to a realisation that there isn't an end to the road of knowledge, it just keeps going and going in a certain sense.

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Re: How much do you know? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #23898281 - 12/05/16 08:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Huehuecoyotl said:
I know a lot. I read and study obsessively...I know science, math, computers (the whole spectrum), the making and playing of complex musical instruments...but the more I know...the more I realize I don't know.




Oops I was meant to quote that.

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