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Klimoserous
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A little issue
#23896050 - 12/05/16 07:30 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think its impossible for me to trip ballz. I have been trying to achieve higher than a level 3 trip with shrooms. I have tried lemon tek and tea. I have tried 2.5g, 3g, 5g, 7g and recently I did 10g dried!! Pretty insane huh. I made the 10g into tea and added lemon juice so it was super potent!
I just can't seem to trip like other people do, I know everyone trips different but its always the same for me.
I heard trip reports of people turning into trees, roses popping out of flowery wall paper and people looking like aliens etc. I NEVER get any of those things.
I just get some super cool patterns, enhanced colors and that memory thing where you can't hold memory for more than 5 seconds so you end up spinning around in a circle with ego death.
I grow my own shrooms, b+ strain. They are super healthy shrooms and I am always careful when I store them so they are out of the light and in a cool place so they don't lose potency.
Does anyone have any tips that would take my tripping to the next level? I am thinking of growing penis envy or McKennai next because they have a much greater concentration of psilocybin.
I am really at a loss! I really want a meaningful experience! I always prepare myself so that I am very happy and I am in a safe place.
Thanks
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Lucis
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I find it strange that you say you spin in a circle with ego death, then go on to say you want meaningful trips. If you have ego death trips, then you should be learning something from your trip, so I doubt you have really had ego death trips, no offense.
I had a major ego death trip in 2009, it literally changed my life, and the mindset it brought out of me has gone onto continue to change my life, so in that way that trip is still working its magick on me.
Anyone I have ever spoken with that has had an ego death trip would say something similar, because after going through such an ordeal you find it hard to be like the majority of people, you see how the ego is toxic in many ways.
But, I would suggest fresh specimens, this is the only way I have had ego death from mushrooms, also you could grow woodlovers or pans.
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Lucis
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Re: A little issue [Re: Lucis]
#23896061 - 12/05/16 07:41 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think some people use MAOI's too, but I don't recommend this until you try fresh mushrooms, or woodlovers, or pans.
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Re: A little issue [Re: Lucis]
#23896288 - 12/05/16 09:40 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think a lot has to do with set. Intentions are important when working with the plant teachers.
Op, if all you're wanting out of your trips is to see some cool shit, then IMO that's ok, but shouldn't be the primary goal. The visuals are just a distraction. The real work is done when eyes are closed and all external stimuli is ignored and there is no thing but white light.
If you haven't already OP, read The Psychedelic Experience. After having a few 'heroic' doses, I recognize the different stages described in this book.
I feel this is why McKenna recommends dosing in the darkness, so that you have nothing to look at and can look inwards. When you have an ego death, you lose all sense of your self, no longer being able to feel or even recognize you have a body. If you're able to let go of your ego and surrender to the experience completely, when you achieve ego death, you realize that your body is only a vessel for your conscience, once you've regained your sense of self, who you are and what you have become, along with the choices you've made to build your own ego, you can pick and choose the parts of you that you wish to keep or throw away, many times making you a different person all together.
Then integration. Putting what you learned to use in day to day life, reconstructing yourself in the ways you deem fit. Psychedelics allow you to take a big step back and examine your own life and ego and who you have become and take all the pieces of the puzzle and let's you reorganize your life.
All this with a big because I, like you OP, am only human, trying to figure all this shit out as well.
Tldr, it's not always about seeing cool shit.
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AuroraBorealis88
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I heard B+ can be weak.
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Klimoserous
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Thanks for all the advice. I think my main problem is I am just not open enough and I am very distracted by visuals and I hardly ever close my eyes. I think next time I will close my eyes and listen to some music and see what happens. I used to do that before I had shrooms, I would trip on magic truffles and this was my favorite things to do. I just never seem motivated to do it on shrooms for some reason. I will also add that I have tried fresh too I much much prefer fresh, I can't tolerate the taste of dried.
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I have never got people looking like aliens, only time I ever got TRUE hallucinations was the half oz of shrooms. I actually saw a few thing in empty space. Seen a lot of stuff distort shapes. ALSO fuck that wood grained paneling on the walls. When I took the half my buddy had that shit. I was jacked up enough that for me it was nothing but tie dyed rivers of color flowing on the walls. Seen furniture truly twist and contort. That was 10 years ago. They were dry but only for maybe a week. The seller sold the spores as "panama" and I grew them out. They were good. Strangely I have not found "panama" spores for sale. Probably someone just throwing a name on them back in the day.
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Klimoserous said: I heard trip reports of people turning into trees, roses popping out of flowery wall paper and people looking like aliens etc.
I NEVER get any of those things.
You will never get these kind of hallucinations from mushrooms, because mushrooms do not induce hallucinations like that. People are exaggerating a lot. Open your "inner eye" and you might get powerfull visions.
People might look bizzarr on higher doses, but they will not litterally "turn into an alien".
Mushrooms induce pseudo-hallucinations like flowing surfaces, breathing walls, patterns on every surface, colorful tracers,.. But you will never see things pop out of nowhere.
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The visuals IME are of that of which is already there. The room takes on a different appearance or vibration. The room can move in waves or breath, or the size of the room could be precived as being larger or smaller.
CEV are another story. When I close my eyes and bury by head in the blankets or a pillow, the visuals in the inner eye are almost like I'm traveling through a wire or tunnel towards a pin point of light. The walls of the pipe or wire or tunnel are where I notice the colors and fractal patterns, flowing out of this point of energy or light at blinding speeds, too fast to even try to comprehend what I'm seeing. It is most prevalent when I clear my mind of all though and just AM, in the moment, no past or future, just nirvana. It doesn't happen every time, many times I get distracted by what all my eyes are seeing when they were open and I am fascinated and bewildered. But if I can allow myself to let go of the body, a crystal clear mind can be had.
The integration i am finding is to have that clear mind while sober and to be able to empty your mind and the thoughts that are constantly bombarding us every day. Psychedelics allow us to take a short vacation from every day life and reconnect us to the source, which I believe is this light seen closed eyed on high dose mushroom.

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AuroraBorealis88
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Guys there's a difference between external hallucinations and internal hallucinations on psychedelics.
https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Internal_hallucinations
https://psychonautwiki.org/w/index.php?title=External_hallucinations&_=
External hallucinations are quite rare and quite quick and indescribable when they do happen. When people talk about "seeing aliens" they're talking about internal hallucinations for the most part.
Also OP like I said it may just be the strain. Take enough Golden teachers and you should most definitely get aliens.
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AuroraBorealis88 said: I heard B+ can be weak.
Yeah they are notorious for producing exceptionally weak or bunk shrooms. I can send the OP a print of something else that will give him the experience he's missing
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Re: A little issue [Re: HamHead]
#23897777 - 12/05/16 06:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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HamHead said: I think a lot has to do with set. Intentions are important when working with the plant teachers.
Op, if all you're wanting out of your trips is to see some cool shit, then IMO that's ok, but shouldn't be the primary goal. The visuals are just a distraction. The real work is done when eyes are closed and all external stimuli is ignored and there is no thing but white light.
If you haven't already OP, read The Psychedelic Experience. After having a few 'heroic' doses, I recognize the different stages described in this book.
I feel this is why McKenna recommends dosing in the darkness, so that you have nothing to look at and can look inwards. When you have an ego death, you lose all sense of your self, no longer being able to feel or even recognize you have a body. If you're able to let go of your ego and surrender to the experience completely, when you achieve ego death, you realize that your body is only a vessel for your conscience, once you've regained your sense of self, who you are and what you have become, along with the choices you've made to build your own ego, you can pick and choose the parts of you that you wish to keep or throw away, many times making you a different person all together.
Then integration. Putting what you learned to use in day to day life, reconstructing yourself in the ways you deem fit. Psychedelics allow you to take a big step back and examine your own life and ego and who you have become and take all the pieces of the puzzle and let's you reorganize your life.
All this with a big because I, like you OP, am only human, trying to figure all this shit out as well.
Tldr, it's not always about seeing cool shit.
This is so true, very well written. I achieved exactly this last night on only 3 gram's of cubes. Which is crazy because I dose from same batch of capsules that were blended together for consistency and I normally do 4-5 gram's... with less effect. Tripping 2 to 3 times a month. Last night I had 2 1/2 to 3 hour's of closed eye visuals. Best trip of about 200 or more. ( I am writing trip report soon) To top that off I also realized after two years of not talking to my father in law over a petty argument we had then...had gone on too long so I dropped the ego and made amends with him today. Time to integrate and write trip report. But yea mindset and intention are more important than the dose.
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Lucis
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Klimoserous said: I heard trip reports of people turning into trees, roses popping out of flowery wall paper and people looking like aliens etc.
I NEVER get any of those things.
You will never get these kind of hallucinations from mushrooms, because mushrooms do not induce hallucinations like that. People are exaggerating a lot. Open your "inner eye" and you might get powerfull visions.
People might look bizzarr on higher doses, but they will not litterally "turn into an alien".
Mushrooms induce pseudo-hallucinations like flowing surfaces, breathing walls, patterns on every surface, colorful tracers,.. But you will never see things pop out of nowhere.
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I took 14 fresh Psilocybe caerulescens once, big meaty fresh specimens which hadn't dropped any spores yet, on that dose the come up was incredibly uncomfortable, my skin started to sting a littler bit, and I knew it was going to be a real swell time.
I don't think I had many OEV's that night because I was tucked up into a ball and tripping nuts, I was so lost within my mind there's no way communication with the outside world would have been possible, I don't think I would have been able to articulate speech in a coherent manner, it was great, that's the time I always talk about where I say I met some type of angelic being, but it was all in my minds eye/mind, sure felt real though.
I think some people take shrooms and they think it's going to be like how many cheesy hollywood movies make it appear, which is far from the truth.
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try like 7 grams of liberty caps. Actually it would probably only take 4.
I think most mushrooms are weak compared to libs. and libs are so tiny there's not much volume to jam down your throat. I only have like 3 grams or id help you out.
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Yea I assumed we were talking about closed eye visuals. The minds eye is where all the visions are for me. Dark room with Pink Floyd.
The open eye visuals with shrooms can be very cool too but not as good as focusing inward.
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Klimoserous
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Thanks. I will try to get some eventually. Do you know if I can grow them myself?
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Blazer420
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dare you to take 3 grams of P. Aucklandii haha
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