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Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising
    #23895700 - 12/05/16 12:55 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Ever think to yourself when at a wharehouse rave "it's amazing this place doesn't burn down?" Well it finally happened and has cost at least 30 their lives in a very sad accident or even possibly arson .  Either way it's pretty awful
As it reports here the Ghost ship (Yes,that was the name of the warehouse rave before the fire) has only been searched 30% and they've found 30 bodies already. The safety sprinklers didnt work at all and the exits were probably not vast :frown:. What is your take on this?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/12/05/us/california-oakland-fire-ghost-ship-warehouse/index.html?client=safari


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    #23895703 - 12/05/16 12:57 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: ruaware] * 3
    #23895726 - 12/05/16 01:07 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Club fires are some of the most deadly mass casualty events in the world, and they happen with some frequency. Modern fire codes were developed in part after club fires in the first half of the 20th century killed hundreds of people.

The station night club fire in RI happened about 15 years ago. 100 people died within 10-15 minutes of after pyrotechnics ignited some material on stage. This is one of the most disturbing and fascinating videos you'll ever see. The guy barely got out filming the entire time.



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    #23895734 - 12/05/16 01:13 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: ruaware]
    #23895740 - 12/05/16 01:22 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

People got bottleneckes at the door seconds after the cameraman got out. Almost nobody else got through that door and within 2 minutes  the fire engulfed that part of the club. Almost everyone died in a huge pile up at the front entrance.

There was a security guard who wouldn't let people go out the back stage entrance which you can see was totally unused.


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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: koods]
    #23895741 - 12/05/16 01:24 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: koods]
    #23895744 - 12/05/16 01:25 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

"wow, that's not good".

a most underwhelming response.
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People got bottleneckes at the door seconds after the cameraman got out. Almost nobody else got through that door and within 2 minutes  the fire engulfed that part of the club. Almost everyone died in a huge pile up at the front entrance.




fucked.

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There was a security guard who wouldn't let people go out the back stage entrance which you can see was totally unused.



what a fucking fool.


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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23895748 - 12/05/16 01:27 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Shit man that's so sad.

I've been at a few raves and had that same fear of some shit like this happening.

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    #23895753 - 12/05/16 01:31 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: ruaware]
    #23895758 - 12/05/16 01:35 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

@rua Only a few people have to freak out & or suffocate for everyone to die. That's a pretty chilling vid and I didn't know it had killed so many before.

I can't imagine there not being a video from this one somewhere but I don't care to look.


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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23895774 - 12/05/16 01:49 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

man thats awedul!

I used to go to illegal warehouse raves and we got packed in there really tight. i was lucky that no fires got started. But there wasnt much to burn in those warehouses anyway.

What a tragedy in Oaktown so sad :sad:


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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: ruaware]
    #23895779 - 12/05/16 01:54 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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People got bottleneckes at the door seconds after the cameraman got out. Almost nobody else got through that door and within 2 minutes  the fire engulfed that part of the club. Almost everyone died in a huge pile up at the front entrance.

There was a security guard who wouldn't let people go out the back stage entrance which you can see was totally unused.





i still dont understand. How could the people could not move?? Why were some people so low and still standing? What the fuck?




I can't watch the video, it's too much this early in the day, but it is like gridlock in traffic.  They were probably low to avoid smoke inhalation, which I think is the most common cause of death in fires. 

There's actually alot of cases of people being crushed to death by the weight of the crowd or trampled in situations like this.

That's incredibly sad.  Kind of makes me think that there are much more important things than having a good time, and being cautious pays off when something doesn't seem right.  Most people just don't think about things like maintaining proper egress and making sure the fire system is not rusted to bits, but somebody should.


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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23895786 - 12/05/16 02:06 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

That party was lit!  :satan:

:crazy: too soon? 

My condolences to the families of the dearly departed.


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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: PartoftheSource]
    #23895823 - 12/05/16 03:06 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

https://www.amazon.com/Killer-Show-Nightclub-Americas-Deadliest/dp/1611688531

here is a critical book on the subject of the Station Nightclub fire.

PS: this recent Oakland fire is still a tragedy, i don't mean to be taking away from that event -- it's obviously saddening and terrible.

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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23895837 - 12/05/16 03:36 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: PartoftheSource] * 2
    #23895871 - 12/05/16 04:41 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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That party was lit!  :satan:

:crazy: too soon? 





Way too soon :nonono:


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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: koods]
    #23896029 - 12/05/16 07:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Club fires are some of the most deadly mass casualty events in the world, and they happen with some frequency. Modern fire codes were developed in part after club fires in the first half of the 20th century killed hundreds of people.

The station night club fire in RI happened about 15 years ago. 100 people died within 10-15 minutes of after pyrotechnics ignited some material on stage. This is one of the most disturbing and fascinating videos you'll ever see. The guy barely got out filming the entire time.







remember the one in china about 18 months ago?



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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23896142 - 12/05/16 08:24 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

was really sad to hear about this yesterday


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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23896169 - 12/05/16 08:38 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I always learn where the exits are when in a club. Warehouse had wooden pallets as the staircase to 2nd floor and that was only way out. Death trap.
This guy killed 87 people with a dollar of gasoline.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Land_fire


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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: Seriously_trippin] * 7
    #23896340 - 12/05/16 10:03 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

haha wharehouse is that a cross between a whorehouse and a warehouse, amirite?!?!?!!?!?


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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: Sheekle]
    #23896410 - 12/05/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23896996 - 12/05/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I know a couple people that were at that underground party in Oakland, they were some of the few that made it out safely just in time.



Having been to similar underground locations/parties out in the bay in the past, I can't even imagine.





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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: koods]
    #23898488 - 12/05/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Club fires are some of the most deadly mass casualty events in the world, and they happen with some frequency. Modern fire codes were developed in part after club fires in the first half of the 20th century killed hundreds of people.

The station night club fire in RI happened about 15 years ago. 100 people died within 10-15 minutes of after pyrotechnics ignited some material on stage. This is one of the most disturbing and fascinating videos you'll ever see. The guy barely got out filming the entire time.






Wtf bro.. Rip :peace:

I was at this one show once and there were hundreds of people All packed in the auditorium, barely an inch of room, anyway I remember thinking to myself like damn how awful it'd be if there was a fire cuz I nearly suffocated just going through the crowd and out the doors.. Bad enough as it is, but a fire oh noos.. *faints*..

And yea it's pretty awful what happened in Oakland, rip.. :peace:


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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23898502 - 12/05/16 10:24 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Pris there should be a fucking warning before posting that. Like what the fuck dude. The internet is a disturbing place.


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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #23898517 - 12/05/16 10:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Pris is a hardcore mother F-er.

he gives ZERO fucks for some reason :shrug:


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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: larry.fisherman] * 2
    #23898544 - 12/05/16 10:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Pris there should be a fucking warning before posting that. Like what the fuck dude. The internet is a disturbing place.





the video is a warning. clubs/raves can be a fucking dangerous place


400 people were injured in a matter of seconds because of dust in the air, even steel dust can ignite


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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23898576 - 12/05/16 10:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Those videos were horrifying. Makes me glad to be safe and alive. Those poor people.


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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #23898780 - 12/06/16 01:04 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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the video is a warning. clubs/raves can be a fucking dangerous place






Agreed 100 percent. Horrifying young people is the only way the lesson will stick. Pris should be charge of making those Blood on the highway films they show you in driver education class.


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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: koods]
    #23898857 - 12/06/16 02:44 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Club fires are some of the most deadly mass casualty events in the world, and they happen with some frequency. Modern fire codes were developed in part after club fires in the first half of the 20th century killed hundreds of people.

The station night club fire in RI happened about 15 years ago. 100 people died within 10-15 minutes of after pyrotechnics ignited some material on stage. This is one of the most disturbing and fascinating videos you'll ever see. The guy barely got out filming the entire time.






Horrifying. Utterly horrifying.

Should they ban pyrotechnics from indoor facilities? One mishap and shit like this is bound to happen. I mean damn just enjoy the music.


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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: Niffla]
    #23898860 - 12/06/16 02:47 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

No but it should be handled by qualified pros, not band managers.


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    #23898868 - 12/06/16 02:54 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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No but it should be handled by qualified pros, not band managers.




Yeah I agree. They're needs to be experienced professionals overseeing that shit, or else it shouldn't be green lighted.

I've seen some things on the internet -- some images that will haunt me forever (one here recently of a cartel torture video, no details needed)...seeing that mass of humanity literally stuck in the door trying to get out with their lives depending on it, and not being able to...that image will never leave my head for as long as I live.


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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: Niffla]
    #23898872 - 12/06/16 03:03 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

It's funny I almost started a fire by accident yesterday.  Someone, possibly me, put the propane torch back in my toolbox without locking the valve switch.  I threw a wrench in there and walked away.  When I came back the little room was all gassed out :guiltyascharged: luckily I knew exactly what it was and I got it turned off right away and ventilated the room.  Scared the shit out of me though.


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    #23898888 - 12/06/16 03:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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It's funny I almost started a fire by accident yesterday.  Someone, possibly me, put the propane torch back in my toolbox without locking the valve switch.  I threw a wrench in there and walked away.  When I came back the little room was all gassed out :guiltyascharged: luckily I knew exactly what it was and I got it turned off right away and ventilated the room.  Scared the shit out of me though.




There was this time when I was tripping -- I was at the end of the trip and just finished smoking my last bowl before going to bed. I got this little box that I keep my pipe in. I was drunk too. I didn't think anything of it and just put the pipe in the box. I was literally heading to my bed to straight crash out; I probably would've fallen asleep the moment I hit the bed. But I noticed that I still had my lighter in my hand, and decided to put the lighter in that same box (the box was in the other room).

When I went to the other room and opened the box -- the pipe had fallen on its side and the weed in it was still smoldering...when I opened the box it was filled with black smoke and probably just moments away from catching fire. I mean it was that close. The box itself was starting to smolder.

Who knows, if I don't have that lighter in my hand, I almost assuredly go straight to sleep. And then I'm probably waking up to my apt being on fire.

Scared the shit out of me, man. Safe to say I empty the pipe now and make sure I visibly see that it's out, as opposed to just putting it away and assuming.


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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: Niffla]
    #23899406 - 12/06/16 09:43 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I was at a horrible little tiny tiny club that got torn down from the bullshit that happened there so much.  I mean they had no cover charge for minors, so you'd have fucking 12 year olds and 50 year olds dancing and moshing.


This place held like 75 people.


Sometimes they would cram well over 100 in there, they never stopped letting people in, if you could cram yourself in then you were in.

No security.


One night some dumbass icp wanna be white rap group thought it would be a good idea to have two guys spitting fire on this tiny ass stage.


No one died, but I saw 4 people's hair go up and flames and their faces so badly burned the whole place got evacuated.  They were lucky to live.  That place only lasted a few months after that.


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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: vandago]
    #23901248 - 12/06/16 08:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Update:  officials say that a faulty refrigerator may have have caused this fire 

https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews.com/us/2016/12/06/refrigerator-may-have-sparked-deadly-oakland-warehouse-fire-official-says.amp.html?client=safari

The building was crammed with rugs, old sofas and a garage-sale-like collection of pianos, paintings, turntables, statues and other items that quickly fed the flames


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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23901318 - 12/06/16 08:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I get a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach every time I think about this incident or see something in the news about it.

I've been to parties and concerts at so many warehouses just like this - some probably even worse and more deadly if they were to catch fire - one warehouse had a gigantic maze/labyrinth all throughout it where the walls were made of books, it was beautiful and amazing, and yes, it got shut down eventually. I remember being so disappointed if a good underground place got shut down due to zoning laws...while this probably won't stop me from going to said lawless party places, I definitely am going to be much much more wary and this is gonna stay on my mind for a while, I already usually scope out exits and my 'exit strategy' at places like this, because so much stuff could go wrong, but funnily enough I never thought about the most obvious one - a fire(that book warehouse could've gone up like a match box now that I think about it..but no one did except for the people enforcing zoning laws).

I feel terrible for those who died(and of course their families)....they were my people, for sure.


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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: pirate-blues]
    #23979172 - 01/03/17 03:39 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

So just an update,luckily they finished the search with only 36 final death toll. That's still a lot but I was expecting triple digits so I was sort of relieved to here that

https://www.google.com/amp/s/patch.com/california/piedmont/amp/26819092/oakland-warehouse-fire-latest-final-death-toll-is-36-search-complete


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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: koods]
    #23979423 - 01/03/17 05:20 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

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Wow one guy stayed on the dance floor til the bitter end. they should make a tv movie about that guy.


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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: mt cleverest]
    #23979453 - 01/03/17 05:29 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

I heard there was some kind of "art maze" inside that people were lost / trapped and burned in? Pretty horrific way to die


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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: mt cleverest] * 1
    #23979456 - 01/03/17 05:30 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

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Wow one guy stayed on the dance floor til the bitter end. they should make a tv movie about that guy.



Probably got trampled in the initial panic.


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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: Kilgore Trout]
    #23979473 - 01/03/17 05:34 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

::justno::


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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: mt cleverest]
    #23979526 - 01/03/17 05:49 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

I'm glad that the primary underground venue I go to in Chicago has a team of organizers that are extremely cognizant of safety measures. Multiple flights of steel stairs + fire escapes and multiple extinguishers. Only the REALLY good professional folks get to do fire-related performance stuff inside, otherwise theres a dedicated area for it on the deck outside. It's far safer than some of the fucking tinderbox shitholes I've been to in the past


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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: koods]
    #23980061 - 01/03/17 09:23 PM (7 years, 27 days ago)

Holy fuckin' Jesus...  just like that.

...well those are two more sets of images that will probably revisit me in my dreams now.  @ Niffla, that door scene fucked with my head too.  I can only imagine what all was going on behind those people.  That's legit nightmare material right there..

Imagine getting out and not being able to find your friend/brother/sister you went to the show with while all that is happening.  This fuckin world man..:nonono:


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Re: Oakland California Wharehouse rave fire Death toll 30 and rising [Re: Amanita86]
    #23980413 - 01/04/17 01:02 AM (7 years, 27 days ago)

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@ Niffla, that door scene fucked with my head too.  I can only imagine what all was going on behind those people.  That's legit nightmare material right there..






It really is. That very brief shot of that mass of humanity literally stuck in the door frame...that image will never leave my head.


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