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OfflinePatlal
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What if you could get good at anythng you want? * 1
    #23894541 - 12/04/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

You know the rule. If you want to master something you have to put in 10000 of practice. That number has been proven to be true for pro athlete, chess masters, musicians and pretty much every other skill that can be mastered. In terms you can understand that's roughly 5 years at a full time job. Essentially in your lifetime you could master 10 skills.

But what about things I just want to learn but not master? I want to know how to decently draw something but I'm not aiming for the Louvre. I wanna learn a new language but not become a poet at it... How long do I have to practice to get there?

Take a guess before you scroll down. How long do you think it'll take you to become good enough at any skill?

Yu have a number in mind? Here's the answer (scroll below the video)














20 hours.

That's right. 20 hours. 45 minutes a day for a month and you can become good enough at pretty much anything. You can go from never having done that thing before to being good enough in only 20 hours. Learn guitar, draw, language, anything really.

Watch that video. Its a TED talk. Very inspiring.


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Re: What if you could get good at anythng you want? [Re: Patlal]
    #23894564 - 12/04/16 05:28 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I want to be very proficient at burying corpses, will this help me?:imslow:


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Re: What if you could get good at anythng you want? [Re: Lucis] * 1
    #23895047 - 12/04/16 07:55 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I'm calling bullshit. 20 hours isn't shit for anything that requires a good amount of skill and in a lot of things the learning curve is quite steep.


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Re: What if you could get good at anythng you want? [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #23895078 - 12/04/16 08:01 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I've seen this video before, it's an interesting concept for sure.

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luvdemboomers said:
Yeah I'm calling bullshit. 20 hours isn't shit for anything that requires a good amount of skill and in a lot of things the learning curve is quite steep.



It's enough to get your head around the idea though, that's the main point. After 20 hours of study and practice, you should be able to make a few pieces of basic furniture at a wood shop for example - without being an expert on the craft. After 20 hours of learning and practice, you should be able to sing a little better than if you had never really sang before.

A high school semester course is usually about 60-80 hours worth of study in something - and skills can arguably be conveyed in the first third of those classes. That's the main point I think.


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Re: What if you could get good at anythng you want? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23895164 - 12/04/16 08:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

It's a cool concept and I think it is true for most things. But guitar was the hardest thing I ever learned and I don't think you can become proficient in 20 hours. You could probably learn to play a few songs with 4 chords but I don't consider that proficient.


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Re: What if you could get good at anythng you want? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23895220 - 12/04/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

"in terms you can understand"

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Re: What if you could get good at anythng you want? [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #23895280 - 12/04/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

You are telling me I could learn Mujushin kenjutsu in 20hrs? Yeah right.


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Re: What if you could get good at anythng you want? [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #23895291 - 12/04/16 09:43 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

yeah, i call bullshit too. what does it mean to be "good" at something? are we just talking about basic competence?

i have a few talents, and i would not have considered myself good at any of them by the 20 hour mark, but i probably would have considered myself basically competent


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Re: What if you could get good at anythng you want? [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #23895302 - 12/04/16 09:47 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

20 hours is enough for some things, not enough for others.

20 hours might be enough to become a decent pottery sculptor, or a good wood-worker or something.

But 20 hours is not nearly enough for things like learning a new language, or learning piano or other complex instruments, or learning jiu-jitsu or gymnastics or some type of advanced, complicated sports techniques.


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Re: What if you could get good at anythng you want? [Re: Patlal]
    #23895340 - 12/04/16 10:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

lol @ learning guitar in 20 hours.
lol @ learning to draw in 20 hours.


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Re: What if you could get good at anythng you want? [Re: Patlal]
    #23895553 - 12/04/16 11:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

i wanna get really good at drumming, especially on a Yamaha digital drum set.

Can it be done in 20 hours thou?


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Re: What if you could get good at anythng you want? [Re: Patlal]
    #23895578 - 12/04/16 11:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

sooo... 20 hours of playing pool and ill be able to beat shane van boening effren reyes and the like?

yeah what a fucking load of dog shit.


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Re: What if you could get good at anythng you want? [Re: rackem] * 1
    #23895624 - 12/05/16 12:09 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

20 hrs won't make you a master, but you can familiarize yourself with concepts etc.

Like how if one were to take a single autoshop class in high school, one would be familiar enough with cars to do simple repairs/not get ripped off badly at the mechanic shop.  It doesn't mean that you're a master mechanic, just "good enough" compared to joe blow off the street.  Same with martial arts.  Will 20 hours make you a kung-fu master? No.  Will 20 hours make you 20 hrs more trained than most people? Yes.  That could potentially be good enough in most situations.


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Re: What if you could get good at anythng you want? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #23895900 - 12/05/16 05:36 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

exactly.

The title says "get good" which basically means "be OK" and not a master at the skill.


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Re: What if you could get good at anythng you want? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23896097 - 12/05/16 07:59 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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20 hours is enough for some things, not enough for others.

20 hours might be enough to become a decent pottery sculptor, or a good wood-worker or something.

But 20 hours is not nearly enough for things like learning a new language, or learning piano or other complex instruments, or learning jiu-jitsu or gymnastics or some type of advanced, complicated sports techniques.




I got 20 hours of German lesson in me and I definitely understand the basics


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Re: What if you could get good at anythng you want? [Re: Patlal]
    #23896110 - 12/05/16 08:07 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Patlal said:
You know the rule. If you want to master something you have to put in 10000 of practice. That number has been proven to be true for pro athlete, chess masters, musicians and pretty much every other skill that can be mastered. In terms you can understand that's roughly 5 years at a full time job. Essentially in your lifetime you could master 10 skills.

But what about things I just want to learn but not master? I want to know how to decently draw something but I'm not aiming for the Louvre. I wanna learn a new language but not become a poet at it... How long do I have to practice to get there?

Take a guess before you scroll down. How long do you think it'll take you to become good enough at any skill?

Yu have a number in mind? Here's the answer (scroll below the video)














20 hours.

That's right. 20 hours. 45 minutes a day for a month and you can become good enough at pretty much anything. You can go from never having done that thing before to being good enough in only 20 hours. Learn guitar, draw, language, anything really.

Watch that video. Its a TED talk. Very inspiring.



Nice post op


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