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 beforethedawn
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 How much do you know? 
#23894187 - 12/04/16 03:00 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think at the end of the day, I don't know shite and those who do know a lot are ignoring the complexities through either voluntary or involuntary lack of intelligence.
One thing is sure though, the more you develop what you think may be understanding, the better life gets and also, the higher your quality of being, if there's a difference (between life and your being).
State of mind can so easily preclude any perception let alone understanding of life.
Likewise, a brilliant state of mind can really catalyze understanding.
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Buster_Brown
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"a brilliant state of mind" is as apt to be fooled as anyone.
In the comparison of Understanding with Quality of life I think appearances can be deceiving, what with Mainstream ideology often equating Quality with Alcohol, cigarettes and a competitive edge in the Rat race.
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 redgreenvines
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I think you mean attitude more than state of mind, but I like your new distinction between the ideas of "quality of being", which diverges from "quality of life" - in the sense of QOB being how you are (quality of being) which can be inconsistent with what might be expected while living in the quality of life QOL (life style, snack bracket, rank, status).
still the general populous has no consistency on the meaning of "state of mind" anyway
lumping together moods, feelings, emotions, attitudes, outlook, mindset, etc.
I use state of mind to indicate the range of resonant mental states from unconscious (blackout, sleeping), dreaming/or delerious, waking and hallucinating, emotionally or drug enhanced, slightly enhanced (charmed - like with weed/coke/light shrooms etc.), and normal or baseline.
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Huehuecoyotl
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I know a lot. I read and study obsessively...I know science, math, computers (the whole spectrum), the making and playing of complex musical instruments...but the more I know...the more I realize I don't know.
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Buster_Brown
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Objectively and subjectively "I feel good stoned and that's not bad" and a moral 'objection to public intoxication' both constitute a quality of being at odds.
Refusing to take sides could be the more intelligent choice.
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dodgem
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I know just enough to know I don't know quite enough.
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Edited by dodgem (12/04/16 04:42 PM)
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Buster_Brown
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Re: How much do you know? [Re: dodgem]
#23894533 - 12/04/16 05:17 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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There's no hope for us in that quarter then.
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Lucis
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I know that I know nothing.
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DividedQuantum
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Re: How much do you know? [Re: Lucis] 1
#23894799 - 12/04/16 06:38 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Fennario said:
I know that I know nothing.
Does anyone even know that? It's conceivable that we all know more than we think we do, in certain respects. Who knows?
Socrates, who was famous for his dictum, also believed that we are born with perfect knowledge from previous lives, and the unfolding of life is the process of rediscovering it. So even he, whom everybody quotes as knowing that he knew not, believed in some sense that we all know much more than we realize.
Food for thought.
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sudly
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I know whatever I choose to believe, as do we all for there are no inherent meanings in life, we choose our own meanings by what we value in life.
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pineninja
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Perhaps the more we know the further from the truth we get.
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sudly
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Re: How much do you know? [Re: pineninja]
#23894980 - 12/04/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Tell that to an engineer..
I mean what the fuck?
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pineninja
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Re: How much do you know? [Re: sudly]
#23894990 - 12/04/16 07:43 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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BANAL\\//
And the philosopher or the priest or the parent.
Why do you always need to drag it down.......im sure the existential self doesn't worry the engineer whilst he is performing his duties. I'm pretty sure there is no engineers looking at these forums for hint on work.
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sudly
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Re: How much do you know? [Re: pineninja]
#23895055 - 12/04/16 07:56 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Same goes for telling a philosopher that the more you know the further from the truth you get.
Does the banality of truth offend you?
If someone's belief system isn't based on objective values such as the scientific method then those beliefs can lead to an individual 'knowing' false information. E.g. Creationists, climate deniers etc.
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pineninja
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Re: How much do you know? [Re: sudly]
#23895073 - 12/04/16 07:59 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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"Banal truth is better than opionated shit"...nice edit.
What does adding to a conversation things that anybody over the age of 15 knows, achieve. You are in a philosophy thread."
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pineninja
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Re: How much do you know? [Re: pineninja]
#23895079 - 12/04/16 08:02 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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I know the shit you spout we all do, get the point! This is a place for whimsical subjective thought and opinion....get used to it.
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pineninja
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Re: How much do you know? [Re: pineninja]
#23895087 - 12/04/16 08:04 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm gonna put you on ignore, which I don't like doing but we I you just cant be civil and its not worth it anyway.
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sudly
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Re: How much do you know? [Re: pineninja]
#23895100 - 12/04/16 08:07 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
pineninja said: get the point!
I was going to try being polite but..
Quote:
Banal truth is better than opionated shit
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sudly
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Quote:
The more we know, the more we know there is to know.
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DisoRDeR
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I know next to naught:
Arrange, rehearse, witness, parse
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