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Thought you guys might be interested in checking this out.
I guess they just got hit with a 14K bill for printing and binding his appeal for the judge to read, so they're trying to raise some funds. I'm definitely going to donate.
https://freeross.org/freerossathon/?v=7516fd43adaa
I think Ross deserves an appeal. I don't believe for a second that he had anything to do with the "hit" that they accused him of, and a lot of new information coming to light regarding corruption on the part of the undercovers.
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#23893686 - 12/04/16 12:17 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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RESURRECT BOB ROSS

Def down to free Mr. Ulbricht too !!
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I don't think he deserves life in prison, but I don't know if he's ever going to get out.
Good to see people are still raising money for him though, I assume his legal expenses must be massive
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who is Ross Ulbricht?
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https://lmgtfy.com/?q=who+is+ross+ulbricht
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I don't understand why people are campaigning to free this guy. What about every other big time drug dealer? I'm against the war on drugs but didn't he commit a massive crime by managing a drug dealing website? Why would he be treated differently to other big time drug dealers? Do people think he was framed?
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https://lmgtfy.com/?q=who+is+ross+ulbricht
I answered an unasked question in the form of a question; paradoxymoron. I googled who he was before I posted that. Please, don't mind my nonsensical posts and we wont have to mind each others trivial posts.
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https://lmgtfy.com/?q=who+is+ross+ulbricht
I answered an unasked question in the form of a question; paradoxymoron. I googled who he was before I posted that. Please, don't mind my nonsensical posts and we wont have to mind each others trivial posts.
deal. I was just feeling a lil sassy at that moment.
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Because Life in Prison is an INSANE sentence for non-violent drug charges.
Because the Drug Laws in general are archaic, draconian and insane. They do not stop people from doing drugs and they NEED TO CHANGE. More than 50% of Federal Prisoners are non-violent drug offenders and this is NOT ok. It's not just about Ross. It's about Drug Policy Reform, Cognitive Liberty, and so much more.
It's just like Timothy Leary receiving a 20 year sentence for a small amount of Cannabis in the 60's....INSANE.
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Plus, he didn't personally facilitate the selling of the drugs- he was more of someone who happened to run a buy-sell-trade website that also happened to sell drugs.
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Exactly.
If anything the Silk Road and it's subsequent iterations have DECREASED violence around the drug trade exponentially.
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Also, Ross's case is a perfect example of why drug prohibition simply does not work -
They put Ross away for life but guess what? The Silk Road did not go away, and it never will. Whenever they incarcerate a drug "king pin" -- that's just creating a job opening for someone else to fill. And on, and on, and on.....
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I'm watching the video; unfortunately I don't even have a $1 to donate.
I'm also reading how the DEA go him and cloned his DATA on his laptop before he could stop it- and how USB-kill switches became widely available after this occurrence. Crazy.
Yeah myself and many boomtown members can testify that getting drugs online may have been slightly hampered after the immediate fall of the SilkRoad, but overall little has changed. Drugs are still readily available and the dark net went deeper into the dark to avoid detection.
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Did Ross donate for my legal bills?
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Did you get sentenced to life in prison for a non-violent drug offense?
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Ulbricht was charged with money laundering, computer hacking, conspiracy to traffic narcotics,[18][22] and procuring murder.[19] The charge of procuring murder was removed from the indictment[23] although the evidence was factored into Ulbricht's sentence.
Ulbricht was convicted of money laundering, computer hacking, conspiracy to traffic fraudulent identity documents, and conspiracy to traffic narcotics in February 2015.[3] He is serving a life sentence without the possibility of parole.
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None of these charges are for violent crimes. Ross does not deserve a life sentence.
Why would Ross donate to your legal bills, btw? Are you in jail for life for a non-violent drug charge? Are you trying to file an appeal with a federal court that costs multiple hundreds of thousands of dollars?
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i completely agree with that statement. Even when it first came out, the whole thing that he put that hit out seemed extremely suspect. these agencies are known for fabricating evidence in the courts to protect how they really obtained info or whatever.
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Didn't he also try to set up a contract killing?
https://www.wired.com/2015/02/read-transcript-silk-roads-boss-ordering-5-assassinations/
Yeah, this guy is a psychopath. Throw away the key.
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Ulbricht was convicted of money laundering, computer hacking, conspiracy to traffic fraudulent identity documents, and conspiracy to traffic narcotics in February 2015.[3] He is serving a life sentence without the possibility of parole.
all of that sounds like he made an online place called the Silk Road, where users could sell and buy things on the black market. of course the feds would try to pin that stuff on him anyway as a twisting of what the real definitions are.
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you're not reading the thread or the replies. yes, but that's an allegation.... the fbi and dea are well known for fabricating evidence...
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Supposedly.
I do not believe it for a second.
2 of the undercover detectives have subsequently been arrested and sentenced for stealing $$$ while investigating Ross/SR.
https://www.wired.com/2016/11/ross-ulbrichts-lawyers-point-another-corrupt-agent-silk-road-case/
"The revelation follows the convictions last year of two Silk Road investigators: a Secret Service agent and a Drug Enforcement Administration agent who used pseudonyms to steal bitcoins from the site, attempted to extort money from Ulbricht, and also sold him law enforcement information. As Ulbricht’s lawyers continue to appeal their client’s conviction on charges including narcotics trafficking and money laundering—as well as the life sentence he received—the defense cites the signs of a third rogue agent with potential access to evidence as an indication that Ulbricht’s trial was flawed and unjust."
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He's the wrong person to be held up as someone unfairly prosecuted. There are plenty of people in jail on trumped up drug charges. This guy ran a marketplace where you could by and sell illegal military weapons and jugs about anything else that has been banned.
He's not some guy who got caught up in dealing and got over his head. He made a decision to exploit the black market created by drug laws and other laws banning certain merchandise. He's not a victim of these laws. He used them to enrich himself.
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Even if I believed the people who were fabricating evidence against him, he doesn't deserve the sentence he got. He is a political prisoner.
When does this end? Tonight?
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When does this end? Tonight?
Exactly.
I think it's going until 10pm EST.
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I do not believe it for a second.
2 of the undercover detectives have subsequently been arrested and sentenced for stealing $$$ while investigating Ross/SR.
https://www.wired.com/2016/11/ross-ulbrichts-lawyers-point-another-corrupt-agent-silk-road-case/
"The revelation follows the convictions last year of two Silk Road investigators: a Secret Service agent and a Drug Enforcement Administration agent who used pseudonyms to steal bitcoins from the site, attempted to extort money from Ulbricht, and also sold him law enforcement information. As Ulbricht’s lawyers continue to appeal their client’s conviction on charges including narcotics trafficking and money laundering—as well as the life sentence he received—the defense cites the signs of a third rogue agent with potential access to evidence as an indication that Ulbricht’s trial was flawed and unjust."
I'm pretty sure that the money that was stolen was out of a bitcoin wallet as well, IIRC. good to hear that those crooked cops got what was coming though.
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I gave him my whiskey fund for the rest of the week and proud to have done so. I'd encourage everyone to give what they can because this is a good cause.
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Just want to give this a quick bump before I go to bed. I can't emphasize how important I think this is, and I've never bought anything off a DNM. I hope anyone who cares about freedom on the internet and in US policy in general will step up and chip in any amount. This is someone who has contributed to freedom online and in p2p trading, so if you ever have had an issue with the current economic system or benefit from the work he has done, please consider donating to Ross's legal fund.
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Thanks moonrockmushy!!
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Because Life in Prison is an INSANE sentence for non-violent drug charges.
Because the Drug Laws in general are archaic, draconian and insane. They do not stop people from doing drugs and they NEED TO CHANGE.
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he should be free because his drug offenses were no violent
never mind that he wanted 5 different people killed and took steps to make it happen
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maybe you missed it, but several people aren't buying the feds' story that he did so considering two of them were arrested for being crooked cops... there's also the bit where digital evidence in cases like these is easily tampered or fabricated and hard to prove
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There is a really good documentary out there called deep web or darknet about ross and how he was framed.
They show that the FBI knew of at least 3 people who used the dreadpirateroberts screen name on the silk road and that he was only 1 of them, and even though they knew this was a fact, they still dismissed it from being used in the case.
It basically shows how the FBI was so dead set on blaming someone that they completely ignored evidence for his innocence in order to get a conviction. Really slimy shit.
His whole thing was about making drug transactions safer and taking the power out of the hands of street thugs
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He also created Good Wagon Books in Austin Tx before making the silk road.
Ya, he really seems like a cold blooded killer
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As far as I'm aware there's no evidence whatsoever that the "hits" ever actually took place, and I didn't think that our Justice system was in the habit of handing down life sentences for thoughts. That is, if he even actually did it.
He deserves an appeal at the very least.
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They raised $23,500 out of the $14,000 they were looking for.
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Sweeeeeet!!!
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Did this guy run a website that took advantage of the black market created by drug prohibition to make millions or not? He knew how fucking illegal his operation was. He took that risk because of the reward. He thought he could get away with it. He didn't. You should raise money for actual victims of the drug war, not people who tried to exploit it.
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Is that the way you feel about people in the marijuana industry too? Essentially... they are getting rich off the black market as profit margins are higher, and they knew since the inception of the drug war that it was illegal.
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Ross is a good man, the people keeping him in chains are not, people should be ashamed for apologizing on those evil pricks behalf.
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The people that exploit the drug war are the ones holding him hostage. He was running a legitimate business, and a good one at that. He gave an average person an opportunity to buy PURE drugs. That was unheard of. You had to be a rich motherfucker to get pure drugs, or at least buy it somewhat in bulk......sure you're gonna come across a gem here and there.....but those handles are ran by multiple users, and that's known. There's plenty of posters here that are multiple human beings.
I don't think there's enough to ruin a mans entire life over.
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What is your definition of an "actual victim of the drug war?"
Is a small time street dealer who sells drugs cut with dangerous chems at a high price to unknowing users a "victim" in your book? Is someone who transports hundreds of lbs of marijuana across the border a victim if they get caught? Anyone who deals in drugs knows the dangers and illegality of what they do.
If anything, ross is the ultimate victim because all he wanted was a safe way to get clean drugs to users all across the planet without having to deal with sketchy dealers and law enforcement.
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As much as I agree that life in prison is an excessive charge, and as much as I hate the drug war, I'm not sure how helping to fund it is going to do any good.
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Helping to fund his legal defense team and appeal so that he can try to get his sentence changed at the least?
I think he definitely deserves time in jail. He knows what he was doing was wrong, but I do not think he deserves life in prison, that is ridiculous.
I'm actually surprised Koods thinks this is a justifiable sentence, I thought he was pretty liberal
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Yeah well they both do seem to be into authority worship these days, they're two sides of the same coin, as much as I like them both.
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