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BANANA.MAN
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Re: Refined sugar is more harmful the heroin. [Re: shadyy]
#23893964 - 12/04/16 01:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Morel Guy said: Doubt anyone is shooting refined heroin most of the time. There is a reason why it is called junk.
Yes but we need to put opiates on a level playing feild with sugar. Thats why both orally and both pure because sugar is either food grade or natural.
Im not saying IV street heroin is better than oral food grade refined sugar. God no. I said that already.
Im saying an addiction to the group of compounds known as opiates are less damaging than an addiction to refined sugarm
Edited by BANANA.MAN (12/04/16 01:31 PM)
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Re: Refined sugar is more harmful the heroin. [Re: shadyy]
#23893966 - 12/04/16 01:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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That poll can't really be accurate, there are certain variables that need to be mentioned. I only put sugar because as of right now, more people are experiencing the negative effects of sugar than they are with heroin.
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Re: Refined sugar is more harmful the heroin. [Re: shadyy]
#23893985 - 12/04/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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i hate liz said: ALRIGHT.
Let's put this to rest...no stalling.
There are soooo many variables. The model i have in my mind resembles a scientific study because i am talking about using pure substances with the same ROA.
Some people here think heroin is worse than sugar because mainlining 20% heroin or research chemicals bought from some toothless feind is worse than eating food grade sugar.
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Re: Refined sugar is more harmful the heroin. [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23893989 - 12/04/16 01:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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NOPE. TAKE THE POLL AND ACCEPT THE RESULTS.
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Re: Refined sugar is more harmful the heroin. [Re: shadyy]
#23893996 - 12/04/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Refined sugar is more harmful the heroin. [Re: The Mycologist]
#23894003 - 12/04/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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People already know the dangers of this shit, though.
I guess this is just to heighten awareness, but still. People harm themselves every day for a reward.
Pain is pleasure.
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Re: Refined sugar is more harmful the heroin. [Re: shadyy]
#23894236 - 12/04/16 03:24 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The whole point people make about opiate use being benign and not physically damaging is very debatable. For starters, opiates are really hard on the kidneys and can cause renal failure (it's the reason you always have such a hard time peeing when you first start the junk).
Not only that, but it seriously damages your hypothalamus, which is the reason junkies always have a hard time feeling hot or cold and regulating body temperature properly.
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Re: Refined sugar is more harmful the heroin. [Re: Crystal G]
#23894250 - 12/04/16 03:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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They're not hard on the kidneys compared to other drugs, and that is not why it is hard to urinate.
They are extremely hazardous though, in ways that will make health concerns seem trivial. They will sap every ounce of joy and satisfaction out of life, which is the worst thing a drug can do IMO.
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Re: Refined sugar is more harmful the heroin. [Re: Eminence]
#23894700 - 12/04/16 06:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Eminence said: Might be misreading your comment, but you do know that they take weight and height in mind when deciding if someone's clinically obese or not right? He would be considered obese, but obviously better off than someone at his weight who has their mass being mostly fat. Bein extremely muscular isn't really all that healthy either, Arnold is in much better shape right there though than the monstrous freaks in bodybuilding today, those guys need so much oxygen pumped through their bodies at all times that they can hardly have a conversation without getting winded lol.
Calling Arnold in his prime obese is absurd, mine as well say cars were originally made out of banana peels.
Modern bodybuilding is often a freakshow, we definitrly agree on that lol. Even the lower weight classes, people often just look weird as fuck with too little bodyfat.
Aesthetics was once the name of the game, Arnold won because he looked like a god. You still see that in some competitions though, especially strictly natutal competitions
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Re: Refined sugar is more harmful the heroin. [Re: Morel Guy]
#23894728 - 12/04/16 06:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Morel Guy said: Body fat and body mass index are used to calculate obesity.
The whole BMI rating is bullshit, it needs to be updated.
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Re: Refined sugar is more harmful the heroin. [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23894759 - 12/04/16 06:26 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: If heroin is used in moderation it is less harmful that refined sugar. Sugar probably causes more deaths, alongside tobacco and fermented sugar.
looking at raw numbers, sure but there's probably 100,000 times more people that eat sugar than use heroin. if you look at the number of heroin related deaths per the number of heroin users to the number of sugar related deaths per the number of sugar users, I think you'll come to a different conclusion
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Re: Refined sugar is more harmful the heroin. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23894785 - 12/04/16 06:33 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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BMI is a quick rule of thumb. Its not meant to be a highly scientific end-all measurement.
Oh, you are 240 and 5'6"? Hmm that seems high? Oh but you bench press 450lbs? You are probably not fat.
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I read "the younger, thinner you diet" by Dr. E Braverman following a mentor's recommendation.
Basically, high fructose corn syrup is worse then heroine and cocaine combined. That chit literally trashes your body, spikes cancer, ages the fuck out of you, and ruins vital organs.
Biggest takeaway from the book; you are not as old as your age. You are as old as the oldest organ in your body. /thread
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Re: Refined sugar is more harmful the heroin. [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23894830 - 12/04/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: They're not hard on the kidneys compared to other drugs, and that is not why it is hard to urinate.
They are extremely hazardous though, in ways that will make health concerns seem trivial. They will sap every ounce of joy and satisfaction out of life, which is the worst thing a drug can do IMO.
She may be talking about prescription painkillers which contain acetaminophen. Those can cause very bad liver and kidney damage if you se them regularly at high doses and dont do a CWE. Thats not the opiates causing the damage though.
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Re: Refined sugar is more harmful the heroin. [Re: finalexplosion]
#23894836 - 12/04/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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finalexplosion said: I read "the younger, thinner you diet" by Dr. E Braverman following a mentor's recommendation.
Basically, high fructose corn syrup is worse then heroine and cocaine combined. That chit literally trashes your body, spikes cancer, ages the fuck out of you, and ruins vital organs.
Biggest takeaway from the book; you are not as old as your age. You are as old as the oldest organ in your body. /thread
What? All organs are your oldest organ :/
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Re: Refined sugar is more harmful the heroin. [Re: Repertoire89]
#23894840 - 12/04/16 06:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm not calling him obese though, those BMI calculators that doctors use are. It's pretty stupid.
Also, there's no such thing as natural bodybuilding shows lol. They're all taking some kind of drug even if it's not steroids.
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Re: Refined sugar is more harmful the heroin. [Re: finalexplosion]
#23894856 - 12/04/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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finalexplosion said: I read "the younger, thinner you diet" by Dr. E Braverman following a mentor's recommendation.
Basically, high fructose corn syrup is worse then heroine and cocaine combined. That chit literally trashes your body, spikes cancer, ages the fuck out of you, and ruins vital organs.
Biggest takeaway from the book; you are not as old as your age. You are as old as the oldest organ in your body. /thread
what you read was horse shit by a retard
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Re: Refined sugar is more harmful the heroin. [Re: Eminence]
#23894860 - 12/04/16 06:55 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bodyfat is a primary consideration for obesity, not just weight vs height
There are a lot of competitions which test rigorously, maybe people slip through the cracks but you can often tell theyre not juicing by looking at them. Id pull up some pics but its a hassle to do stuff likr that on my phone
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Re: Refined sugar is more harmful the heroin. [Re: Repertoire89]
#23894886 - 12/04/16 07:05 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Repertoire89 said: Bodyfat is a primary consideration for obesity, not just weight vs height
BMI calculators dont take muscle into account, if you weigh over a certain weight for a specific height you're considered overweight or obese by these charts and calculators, it doesnt matter that you have 8% body fat or 30% because they cannot make that assessment
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Re: Refined sugar is more harmful the heroin. [Re: Eminence]
#23894888 - 12/04/16 07:05 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Eminence said: I'm not calling him obese though, those BMI calculators that doctors use are. It's pretty stupid.
Yeah it is a pretty goofy system to use directly in diagnosis. The idea that the square of your height is directly proportional to what weight you should be is from 1800s medicine.
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