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Can you only fill half of a monotub?
    #23890818 - 12/03/16 02:26 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I have a large 108qt tub but only enough bulk to fill the entire tub to 1 inch.

Is it possible for me to fill just one side and leave the other side empty?

Therefore increasing the depth to 2-3 inches
Rather than having to buy a 66qt tub or trays.


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Re: Can you only fill half of a monotub? [Re: KushLaurier]
    #23890825 - 12/03/16 02:28 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Could go 1:4


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Re: Can you only fill half of a monotub? [Re: cronicr]
    #23890866 - 12/03/16 02:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Would 1:4 filling the entire tub be better than
1:2 half full?

I always liked doing 1:2 never done more than that.


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Re: Can you only fill half of a monotub? [Re: KushLaurier]
    #23890881 - 12/03/16 02:41 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Hard to tell if that is a serious question


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Re: Can you only fill half of a monotub? [Re: cronicr]
    #23891066 - 12/03/16 03:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Go 1:3 and hit 1.5-2 inches.


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Re: Can you only fill half of a monotub? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23891192 - 12/03/16 04:26 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Even with 2 inches of sub remember to mist it more for best results. 1 to 4 works fine. If you don't want much more sub then make 1/2 inch casing


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Re: Can you only fill half of a monotub? [Re: tump] * 1
    #23891212 - 12/03/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

This is 'Merica you can do what you want.


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Re: Can you only fill half of a monotub? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23891245 - 12/03/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Go 1:3 and hit 1.5-2 inches.




I hate to disagree but an 1.5 inch substrate will perform poorly IME. 1.5 inch is OK for Panaeolus but cubes spawned 1:3 with a depth of 1.5 inch... no.
I would invest some money to get a nice substrate depth.

If you do it with 1.5 inch you get fruits of course but it would be be better to make a 3 - 3.5 inch substrate. But if you are too broke to buy another tub, you do not have much opportunities.


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Re: Can you only fill half of a monotub? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23891274 - 12/03/16 04:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Go 1:3 and hit 1.5-2 inches.



:whathesaid:

Shallow subs do just fine and will still flush several times


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Re: Can you only fill half of a monotub? [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #23891282 - 12/03/16 04:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

:whathesaid: two two inch subs perform better then one four inch sub.


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Re: Can you only fill half of a monotub? [Re: cronicr]
    #23891308 - 12/03/16 04:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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wo two inch subs perform better then one four inch sub.




That's true... however... I want to see pictures of the 1.5 inch tub grow. Let's see how it'll perform.

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Re: Can you only fill half of a monotub? [Re: enlightenment]
    #23891313 - 12/03/16 04:59 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Go 1:3 and hit 1.5-2 inches.




I hate to disagree but an 1.5 inch substrate will perform poorly IME. 1.5 inch is OK for Panaeolus but cubes spawned 1:3 with a depth of 1.5 inch... no.
I would invest some money to get a nice substrate depth.

If you do it with 1.5 inch you get fruits of course but it would be be better to make a 3 - 3.5 inch substrate. But if you are too broke to buy another tub, you do not have much opportunities.



2" subs



These are 2 pink buffalo tubs, 2" subs depth 3rd flushes


I've tried 4", 3" and 2" deep subs and the only difference I've experienced is that in the end, you end up throwing away less material when the tubs tams out or just becomes spent


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Re: Can you only fill half of a monotub? [Re: enlightenment]
    #23891324 - 12/03/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

It was a bit thicker after casing of course.



This tray was only an inch thick



Same with this one



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Re: Can you only fill half of a monotub? [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #23891332 - 12/03/16 05:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Couple tubs of pe6 2" subs


Couple ksss tubs 2" subs


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Re: Can you only fill half of a monotub? [Re: PinPornProducer] * 1
    #23891340 - 12/03/16 05:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

:dealwithwhat:

OK it might have been bad luck in my grows where I need to go with a 2 inch substrate depth. Had small fruits and poor yield :shrug:
I have to admit that it happened just a few times because of miscalculation but every time the trays performed bad. Maybe the conditions play a role, too. A monotub could act different than the trays in my GH. I don't know.

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Same with this one






That's how the trays looked like.


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Re: Can you only fill half of a monotub? [Re: enlightenment]
    #23891366 - 12/03/16 05:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I thought the same thing too enlightenment.  Many on here have proved me wrong though


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Re: Can you only fill half of a monotub? [Re: enlightenment]
    #23891376 - 12/03/16 05:14 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I had bad experience with small substrate depths... I think that the environment plays a big role. GH or tub seems to differ a lot.



That's a tray with 1.5 - 2 inch substrate depth. Very small fruits.


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Re: Can you only fill half of a monotub? [Re: enlightenment]
    #23891388 - 12/03/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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:dealwithwhat:

OK it might have been bad luck in my grows where I need to go with a 2 inch substrate depth. Had small fruits and poor yield :shrug:
I have to admit that it happened just a few times because of miscalculation but every time the trays performed bad. Maybe the conditions play a role, too. A monotub could act different than the trays in my GH. I don't know.

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Same with this one






That's how the trays looked like.




That tray was a pint of spawn and less than an inch thick. Got over a dry oz first flush from it. Was pretty happy. Judge yield and BE not fruit size.


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Re: Can you only fill half of a monotub? [Re: enlightenment]
    #23891389 - 12/03/16 05:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Still what you'd expect I imagine. Nice flush btw, can see you have high standards


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Re: Can you only fill half of a monotub? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23891404 - 12/03/16 05:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

So what do you think about the relation of the fruiting environment? It looks like it has a big influence. A GH seems like it could not provide the optimal conditions for a tray with a small substrate depth... Otherwise, I cannot explain it to myself.


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Re: Can you only fill half of a monotub? [Re: enlightenment]
    #23891416 - 12/03/16 05:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Could be too much evaporation was pulling too much water from the sub. Water supply is directly corrolated with fruit size. Genetics also counts as well for a lot. That 1 inch tray that earned your ire was KSSS a notorious fatass variety.


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Re: Can you only fill half of a monotub? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23891448 - 12/03/16 05:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Luck of the draw sometimes. To many factors that change grow to grow. In my green house my trays were only 2 inches high and did great sometimes or did crappy even on same iso culture.


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Re: Can you only fill half of a monotub? [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #23891478 - 12/03/16 05:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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wo two inch subs perform better then one four inch sub.




That's true... however... I want to see pictures of the 1.5 inch tub grow. Let's see how it'll perform.

:popcorn:



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I hate to disagree but an 1.5 inch substrate will perform poorly IME. 1.5 inch is OK for Panaeolus but cubes spawned 1:3 with a depth of 1.5 inch... no.
I would invest some money to get a nice substrate depth.

If you do it with 1.5 inch you get fruits of course but it would be be better to make a 3 - 3.5 inch substrate. But if you are too broke to buy another tub, you do not have much opportunities.



2" subs



These are 2 pink buffalo tubs, 2" subs depth 3rd flushes


I've tried 4", 3" and 2" deep subs and the only difference I've experienced is that in the end, you end up throwing away less material when the tubs tams out or just becomes spent




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It was a bit thicker after casing of course.



This tray was only an inch thick



Same with this one





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Couple tubs of pe6 2" subs


Couple ksss tubs 2" subs





Sorry to derail but i just saw this and was like fuck yeah
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Re: Can you only fill half of a monotub? [Re: LocN9ne]
    #23891497 - 12/03/16 05:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

:rofl2:
Yeah. They showed me that it is definitely possible to get some good results with a small substrate depth. You never stop learning :laugh:

I did not recommend it because of my experiences. As I wrote it seems like it has something to do with the environment the trays/tubs are in. In 95% of my grows I use a GH.


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Re: Can you only fill half of a monotub? [Re: enlightenment]
    #23894368 - 12/04/16 04:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

So op...  What are you gonna do?


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Re: Can you only fill half of a monotub? [Re: Kenetic]
    #23898091 - 12/05/16 07:55 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I made a few trays out of some salad spinners.

I got creative, maybe I can use the Mesh liner for dunking them and the spinner could be used for fanning.

Next time I will go with what Pastywhyte recommended thin substrate @ 1:3 ratio covering entire tub if I run into this situation again. Trays seem less risky since I can spread out the risk I really need some for Christmas :tongue2:

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