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Garcan
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Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber?
#23890556 - 12/03/16 12:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm going to be growing shrooms in my house, the problem is that I don't live alone and I would like to keep them a secret.
I'm going to grow them in my closet, what is my best option?
Thanks
Edit: I'm going to be growing cubensis, I already ordered a block of it, 80% colonized.
Edited by Garcan (12/03/16 01:06 PM)
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: Garcan]
#23890587 - 12/03/16 01:01 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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A lot of people frown on hidden grows btw, so be prepared for some salt coming your way.
If your goal is pure stealth, maybe sclerotia producing ones one be your best bet.
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: Garcan]
#23890589 - 12/03/16 01:01 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Read about sclerotia. I think that would be better for you than trying to hide a grow chamber. BTW it is a bad idea to grow in your parents house without letting them know. They can get some serious trouble because of you.
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: enlightenment]
#23890594 - 12/03/16 01:03 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Maybe he has a nosey room mate?
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: enlightenment]
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: SomeoneWhoIsMe]
#23890601 - 12/03/16 01:05 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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SomeoneWhoIsMe said: Maybe he has a nosey room mate?
OK. This is possible, too. But I think the most people who ask for stealth grows are underage and live in their parents house. No offense btw...
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: enlightenment]
#23890607 - 12/03/16 01:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Law isn't much of a problem where I live, at least not regarding mushrooms inside private residences, I cant choose what to grow since I already ordered cubensis
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: enlightenment]
#23890634 - 12/03/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea, keeping mushroom grows a secret from people living in the same household sounds hard to do. Just fruiting might be possible to hide away somewhere, but I would say the whole process with preparing substrate and sterile work would be a hassle. If it isn't illegal, what is the reason for secrecy?
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: do it]
#23890651 - 12/03/16 01:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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When I lived with my parents back in the day I had a few monotubs going. They never asked questions, my friends knew I was growing and they didn't even see them until I pointed it out. I didn't make any real attempt to hide them, I just stuck them in a corner of my ~25x25ft room. You'd be surprised what people don't see if they're not looking for it and unless you are familiar with mushroom growing you wouldn't even know what a monotub is.
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: do it]
#23890652 - 12/03/16 01:23 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I grew a couple ounces in a cardboard box behind a big speaker on the shelf in my man cave. I was hiding it from my wife (she didn't approve at the time). A couple times she came in and said she could smell something weird, but couldn't figure out what it was. It was that shroomy smell from me misting and fanning.
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: do it]
#23890656 - 12/03/16 01:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, but I do have a closet that no one checks. Also the substrate and sterile work I can do without problem, I'm not being watched 24/7.
I want to keep this grow a secret because my family isn't exactly open minded
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: Huskies]
#23890657 - 12/03/16 01:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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If I remember right, doing the brf/pf tek and just leaving it in the jar the whole time (meaning you never put it in a fruiting chamber) will cause it to inverto (I forget the word for it, hope it's inverto) which means it'll just start growing mushrooms inside the jar. You never have to add any water to it or anything as long as you never open the jar until the mushrooms are grown. Seems pretty stealthy to me.
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Huskies said: A lot of people frown on hidden grows btw, so be prepared for some salt coming your way.
I've never seen anyone frown on hidden grows. In case you've forgotten, these substances are illegal.
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: do it]
#23890666 - 12/03/16 01:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Edited by ChemicalSpark (03/23/20 09:14 PM)
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: Garcan]
#23890672 - 12/03/16 01:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Garcan said: ...my family isn't exactly open minded
Living in your parents house? I wouldn't do it. When I was hiding it from my wife and I'd take a little, I'd have a panic attack. I was suddenly afraid of getting caught. You don't need that hanging over your head. And if you do get caught, then what? What if you get confronted while you're tripping? That's too much for me. I'd rather get it elsewhere and wait until I'm out of the house to start growing.
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#23890675 - 12/03/16 01:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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i think the salty 'hidden' aspect is more directed towards grow kits in a sock drawer style hidden.
my grow room is hidden. its locked in a spare bedroom. but i also grew in my parents house. i told them though.. after i had them fruiting. needed someone to mist my cakes while i was at work/school.
however, combining mush cult with stealth is always relative ...or whatever.
as in the stealthier you get the more the mushroom suffers(for the most part)
a mono tub does great just sitting in a room out of the way. like on a dresser. but that same tub 'hidden' in a closet will be effected by that and have shitter results.
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: Universe]
#23890678 - 12/03/16 01:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, I get you. I'm planning to grow in my house then consume elsewhere, I definitely don't want to be around family when tripping haha.
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: Garcan]
#23890688 - 12/03/16 01:36 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Garcan said: Yeah, I get you. I'm planning to grow in my house then consume elsewhere, I definitely don't want to be around family when tripping haha.
i dont think tripping is the major issue.
its the manufacturing a controlled substance in someone elses house when they dont know issue. seriously fucked up thing to do but whatever. your deal. not judging.
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: mushboy]
#23890701 - 12/03/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think the only part that made me cringe was the fact that he bought a kit 
However, and I know many disagree with me, I don't think growing in your parents house is morally wrong. Many people, especially older people, are very closed minded and speaking as someone who was dealing with severe chronic depression for 8 years, mushrooms are the only thing that helped me in my most desperate time of need and what gave me my more level mindset today. I just think they should be willing to suffer the consequencesif they get caught. Does your personal reward outweigh the risk of your situation? That's just my opinion. Just dont tell anyone. It can feel cool to brag about it to your friends, but seriously just shut the fuck up. If you've already told some people you're about to start it, tell them that it molded and you had to throw it away because it was smelling really bad and that mushroom growing just isn't your thing
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#23890723 - 12/03/16 01:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah... I think we shouldn't judge and be constructive! The biggest discoveries in science in history were made due to restrictive environment... I wanna see someone make a good TEK in a fucking closet even though everyone hates it here with proper physics behind it ie: amount of air movement needed per volume of the closet etc...
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#23890725 - 12/03/16 01:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Is not exactly a kit I think, kits are easy to grow, this shit isn't :/
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: mushhiehunter]
#23890729 - 12/03/16 01:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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mushhiehunter said: I wanna see someone make a good TEK in a fucking closet
its called a greenhouse
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#23890737 - 12/03/16 01:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kush_Zombie said: I think the only part that made me cringe was the fact that he bought a kit 
However, and I know many disagree with me, I don't think growing in your parents house is morally wrong. Many people, especially older people, are very closed minded and speaking as someone who was dealing with severe chronic depression for 8 years, mushrooms are the only thing that helped me in my most desperate time of need and what gave me my more level mindset today. I just think they should be willing to suffer the consequencesif they get caught. Does your personal reward outweigh the risk of your situation? That's just my opinion. Just dont tell anyone. It can feel cool to brag about it to your friends, but seriously just shut the fuck up. If you've already told some people you're about to start it, tell them that it molded and you had to throw it away because it was smelling really bad and that mushroom growing just isn't your thing
I have to say that being someone from Europe, police couldn't care less about shrooms... I even have a friend who is in the force and he's helping me with the grow... it just isn't such a big deal here. Meth, sure, LARGE weed growing operation, sure.. but shrooms... meh
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: mushboy]
#23890748 - 12/03/16 01:55 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think I might just ship this back and get myself a mexican truffle bag, I ordered that one first but it was contaminated and I got a cubensis one as a replacement.
Cubensis is just way too much work and too much risk for the reward, the mexican one grows by itself so I'll get that one
Edited by Garcan (12/03/16 01:57 PM)
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: Garcan]
#23890759 - 12/03/16 02:01 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Garcan said: I think I might just ship this back and get myself a mexican truffle bag, I ordered that one first but it was contaminated and I got a cubensis one as a replacement.
Cubensis is just way too much work and too much risk for the reward, the mexican one grows by itself so I'll get that one
True, cubensis are a bit of a hassle but there is nothing like seeing those pins the first time and smelling the sweet smell of fungi. This hobby isn't easy and is time consuming, but that is what makes it so interesting. You have to invest time and effort into it and that is where the joy comes from, from results of hard, CLEAN, work
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: mushhiehunter]
#23890772 - 12/03/16 02:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Monos do fine in a closet. Biggest issue with monos in closets is the heat buildup.
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23890775 - 12/03/16 02:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Monos do fine in a closet. Biggest issue with monos in closets is the heat buildup.
Could you please elaborate a bit on this topic? The mono is producing some heat which causes the moist warm air to flow towards the top of the closet so if you put the mono close to the bottom of the closet you should be good as long as you vent the closet twice a day or so..
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23890776 - 12/03/16 02:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Monos do fine in a closet. Biggest issue with monos in closets is the heat buildup.
^^^This + FAE
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: mushhiehunter]
#23890876 - 12/03/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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mushhiehunter said:
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Kush_Zombie said: I think the only part that made me cringe was the fact that he bought a kit 
However, and I know many disagree with me, I don't think growing in your parents house is morally wrong. Many people, especially older people, are very closed minded and speaking as someone who was dealing with severe chronic depression for 8 years, mushrooms are the only thing that helped me in my most desperate time of need and what gave me my more level mindset today. I just think they should be willing to suffer the consequencesif they get caught. Does your personal reward outweigh the risk of your situation? That's just my opinion. Just dont tell anyone. It can feel cool to brag about it to your friends, but seriously just shut the fuck up. If you've already told some people you're about to start it, tell them that it molded and you had to throw it away because it was smelling really bad and that mushroom growing just isn't your thing
I have to say that being someone from Europe, police couldn't care less about shrooms... I even have a friend who is in the force and he's helping me with the grow... it just isn't such a big deal here. Meth, sure, LARGE weed growing operation, sure.. but shrooms... meh
Welcome to America
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#23890906 - 12/03/16 02:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kush_Zombie said:
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mushhiehunter said:
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Kush_Zombie said: I think the only part that made me cringe was the fact that he bought a kit 
However, and I know many disagree with me, I don't think growing in your parents house is morally wrong. Many people, especially older people, are very closed minded and speaking as someone who was dealing with severe chronic depression for 8 years, mushrooms are the only thing that helped me in my most desperate time of need and what gave me my more level mindset today. I just think they should be willing to suffer the consequencesif they get caught. Does your personal reward outweigh the risk of your situation? That's just my opinion. Just dont tell anyone. It can feel cool to brag about it to your friends, but seriously just shut the fuck up. If you've already told some people you're about to start it, tell them that it molded and you had to throw it away because it was smelling really bad and that mushroom growing just isn't your thing
I have to say that being someone from Europe, police couldn't care less about shrooms... I even have a friend who is in the force and he's helping me with the grow... it just isn't such a big deal here. Meth, sure, LARGE weed growing operation, sure.. but shrooms... meh
Welcome to America
I know the feeling, I lived for a year in the US heh, I even graduated at a US high school... but US might have been a land of the free but now I feel the most free in EU tbh.
Edited by mushhiehunter (12/03/16 02:52 PM)
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: mushhiehunter]
#23891427 - 12/03/16 05:33 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Fruit in a mono or top fruit the cakes by sandwhich bag. Cubes are easy as pie to grow... And did i read a police officer is helping you grow this. You only have to ways to live life be open to everyone about this grow, or tell no one. Always pick tell no one rount until my house keep getting broken into, all tjey ever stole was the mushrooms. You can't call the police for fear of jail time yourself. No one knows why you keep being the victim if its a secret. Always keep low profile.
P.s. don't make a trap that shoots people opening your back door. After two shootings questioning by police is a bother
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: tump]
#23891434 - 12/03/16 05:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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There's always casing jars and covering with baggies

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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: PinPornProducer]
#23891487 - 12/03/16 05:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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PinPornProducer said: There's always casing jars and covering with baggies
 
I will take that over a trich farm any day
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23891592 - 12/03/16 06:33 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Idk what it is but everytime I grow cased grain jars the fruits are just insanely potent
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: PinPornProducer]
#23891599 - 12/03/16 06:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Do an invitro tek, thats what you want. Look it up, psilocybe fannatifcus did a tek on his website.
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: PinPornProducer]
#23891619 - 12/03/16 06:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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PinPornProducer said: Idk what it is but everytime I grow cased grain jars the fruits are just insanely potent 
I have noticed no difference. Got me some coming up tho so I can taste test yet again.
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23891643 - 12/03/16 06:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Idk of you ever done dmt but if you don't break through and you open your eyes the visuals are just fkn wicked. Like everything is just chopped up into slices vibrating up and down kinda like the numbers on the matrix. The last grow of cased grains had me like that.
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: PinPornProducer]
#23891679 - 12/03/16 07:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Pretty much any potent grow is like that IME. PE, APE, pan cyan, and regular old cubes with good genetics all get me seeing the fractals. Dosage dependent of course. APE and pan cyan take a lot less to get there.
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23891683 - 12/03/16 07:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea I dosed to high nowadays, I surpass that shit lol.
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Re: Best way to make a stealth, simple fruiting chamber? [Re: PinPornProducer]
#23891726 - 12/03/16 07:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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These visuals were beyond that though, they weren't the smooth flowing type but sporadic violent type movement, kinda overwhelming at time lol
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