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Only for high school students though, not junior high or elementary.
High schoolers are old enough to reason and understand why they are getting hit, sometimes when they're getting uppity they just need to be put in their place. They'll also get over it, it won't traumatize them or even hurt them as long as you don't use excessive force.
Here's an example of a teacher slapping a student that I thought was pretty funny
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G] 2
#23889474 - 12/03/16 12:43 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You never cease to amaze me with your moral degeneracy.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23889475 - 12/03/16 12:44 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I did the first bit of school age 5-13 in England, it was a strict military type school that used to beat the kids, but I think laws passed that prohibited beating by the time i got there. Anyway, they switched to public humiliation as punishment when I started there. They were pretty dark and scary. They were brutal with us and wouldn't tolerate anything and had no mercy for kids even when they cried. it was exactly like that fat mean teacher from that movie Matilda. They force that fat kid to eat the chocolate cake. They would force us to eat all the food they gave us too. I think it worked pretty well for the most part, and beating wasn't necessary.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: falsereality]
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lol i dont believe thats real
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23889479 - 12/03/16 12:47 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Haha I knew that was the video you posted before I watched it. I saw it on LiveLeak last night.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: trees]
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trees said: I did the first bit of school age 5-13 in England, it was a strict military type school that used to beat the kids, but I think laws passed that prohibited beating by the time i got there. Anyway, they switched to public humiliation as punishment when I started there. They were pretty dark and scary. They were brutal with us and wouldn't tolerate anything and had no mercy for kids even when they cried. it was exactly like that fat mean teacher from that movie Matilda. They force that fat kid to eat the chocolate cake. They would force us to eat all the food they gave us too. I think it worked pretty well for the most part, and beating wasn't necessary.
Yeah, I don't believe it should be legal to hit children that age. Kids that age don't realize the real reason you're hitting them, and kids are also extremely sensitive and emotionally fragile, and something like that can completely destroy their entire world and traumatize that.
Teenagers on the other hand, are a little bit tougher, and they're more likely to look back at the incident and admit "Okay, I deserved that, I crossed a line."
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Eminence]
#23889483 - 12/03/16 12:51 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Eminence said: Haha I knew that was the video you posted before I watched it. I saw it on LiveLeak last night.
Hahahahahaha, I busted out laughing when I saw it on Ebaumsworld.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23889487 - 12/03/16 12:55 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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School should be a preparation for real life, slapping the fuck out of someone because they threw a ball of paper at you is a crime.
Check out the stanford prison experiment, there are parallels: http://www.prisonexp.org/
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: falsereality]
#23889489 - 12/03/16 12:56 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not to mention that slapping someone that hard can cause permanent hearing damage... idk, like a drastic reduction in hearing at 1hz in my case.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23889492 - 12/03/16 12:59 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Dude holy shit this motherfucker got slapped into the next dimension
Then there's this teacher. Why the hell was she arrested? She didn't even slap the kid that hard, and the kid was still smiling and laughing and joking right after it happened. Jeez dude give her her job back, a slap like that should be totally legal:
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23889506 - 12/03/16 01:09 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Full on fight between old 60+ year old teacher who goes down and gets head locked by tracksuit russian kid
Shite link might now work
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: trees]
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trees said: Full on fight between old 60+ year old teacher who goes down and gets head locked by tracksuit russian kid Shite link might now work
Seen that one before, typical Russian teenage boy, he's even wearing a tracksuit
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: trees]
#23889515 - 12/03/16 01:17 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Eminence]
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G] 1
#23889587 - 12/03/16 02:35 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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if teachers were allowed to slap high school students, i bet there would be a huge increase in school shootings.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#23889608 - 12/03/16 02:49 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: if teachers were allowed to slap high school students, i bet there would be a huge increase in school shootings.
I doubt it. The types of kids that commit mass school shootings are the ostracized and bullied nerdy types, these types are the meek, shy, quiet types that sit in the back of the classroom and try to do everything possible to not call attention to themselves. They're probably the least likely students to get slapped by a teacher for getting out of line for.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23889781 - 12/03/16 07:01 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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That little black kid was lucky he had a teacher that cared enough to slap his ass. Most teachers would be sitting behind their desk wondering what his fucking name was waiting for the bell to ring while the kids did some fucking worksheets she would never even grade. That's why they grow up unable to read and shit and work the school to prison pipeline. They arrest that teacher! What a joke. The NAACP should be giving her a medal.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23889789 - 12/03/16 07:07 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crystal G said: Only for high school students though, not junior high or elementary.
High schoolers are old enough to reason and understand why they are getting hit, sometimes when they're getting uppity they just need to be put in their place. They'll also get over it, it won't traumatize them or even hurt them as long as you don't use excessive force.
Here's an example of a teacher slapping a student that I thought was pretty funny
Yeah I would have dared any of my teachers to pull some shit like this. I also wasn't a little shit that threw stuff though. Kept to myself. Worst was probably nap time in algebra 2. I want to see a video of a teacher slapping a kid bigger than him. Theres a freak in texas in highschool, plays football 16 years old squatting 900 lbs.... Yeah fucking think about that crystal. I want to see the scrawny pussy with a pony tail slap that kid. Find some videos like that. 16 year old fresh into life beating down some older dude who struck first.
Also does this apply to female students in your eyes crystal or do they get some privilege? Because I have seem some hilarious ghetto school fight videos where some jacked black teacher says fuck it and pretty much body slams a bitch.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: falsereality]
#23889802 - 12/03/16 07:16 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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falsereality said: You never cease to amaze me with your moral degeneracy.
was the student in the video being a degenerate, in your opinion? was the teacher?
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: akira_akuma]
#23889810 - 12/03/16 07:22 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The student for throwing shit and the teacher for looking like kip from napoleon dynamite but with a pony tail. Yes both of them are degenerates.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Mescalean]
#23889812 - 12/03/16 07:23 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mescalean said: The student for throwing shit and the teacher for looking like kip from napoleon dynamite but with a pony tail. Yes both of them are degenerates.
save one was a beta degenerate, and the other the alpha.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: akira_akuma]
#23889821 - 12/03/16 07:30 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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No both beta, but kip was the alpha-beta. The little shit did nothing to counter exposing his belly. Bitched out to fucking kip dude. fucking kip LOLOLOLOL.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Mescalean] 2
#23889825 - 12/03/16 07:33 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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It should be legal to slap ANYONE between 15-30, period. Not to leave a mark, just to remind them they are not properly prepared, nor smarter than everyone else. Dick
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Mescalean]
#23889828 - 12/03/16 07:34 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kip would get demolished by these animals in a slap contest jesus titty fucking christ and doggy style mary I need to buy tickets
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Mescalean] 1
#23889848 - 12/03/16 07:47 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nthing teaches discipline like a solid slap to the face
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23889870 - 12/03/16 07:55 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: if teachers were allowed to slap high school students, i bet there would be a huge increase in school shootings.
I doubt it. The types of kids that commit mass school shootings are the ostracized and bullied nerdy types, these types are the meek, shy, quiet types that sit in the back of the classroom and try to do everything possible to not call attention to themselves. They're probably the least likely students to get slapped by a teacher for getting out of line for.
U may have a point there.
Check out this weird turn of events. I just found out the new Secretary of Education, hired by Trump, has a background in Christian Schools. Ya know what that means! Whoo-psst! kids getting slapped all day.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Patlal]
#23889886 - 12/03/16 08:07 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Patlal said: Nthing teaches discipline like a solid slap to the face
 *Looks around for Sheeklette*
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23889921 - 12/03/16 08:32 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Weren't baby boomers hit in school? Look how they turned out, fucking wrecked the country.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Repertoire89]
#23889933 - 12/03/16 08:38 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Repertoire89 said: Weren't baby boomers hit in school? Look how they turned out, fucking wrecked the country.
I disagree with your statement on many levels. Most boomers were NOT smacked in school, their parents were, and they were one of the most amazing generations ever. How do you figure boomers wrecked our country? Dick
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: A.RichardTrickle] 1
#23889956 - 12/03/16 08:56 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Repertoire89 said: Weren't baby boomers hit in school? Look how they turned out, fucking wrecked the country.
I disagree with your statement on many levels. Most boomers were NOT smacked in school, their parents were, and they were one of the most amazing generations ever. How do you figure boomers wrecked our country? Dick
Baby Boomers started all that meaningless me me me everyone gets a trophy bullshit. The World War II generation were proud because they actually did something important. Baby Boomers were proud because they had everything handed to them on a silver spoon. Then they elected a bunch of presidents that put us trillions in debt because they expect free shit. Now we're all fucked because of those cunts.
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#23889959 - 12/03/16 08:58 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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In high school a teacher smacked me in the back of the head once. I deserved it for being a prick. He later apologized after class or the next day I don't recall. I didnt rat on him even though I did not like him. I was out of line and verbal warning didn't work. But a solid smack to my head did. I wasn't a shit head in his class anymore even though I had the deck of cards in my favor. One time in karate I was not doing our warm ups properly blantely screwing around not thinking the instructor did not see me..without looking and pinpoint accuracy he kicked me squarely in the solar plexus..I collapsed unable to breath. I never fucked off again. My parents disciplined my brothers and I when we were being little shits. We all turned out great. No mental, physical, criminal, or drug addiction problems. I think it's good for kids and society even though many will disagree. There's a difference between abuse and discipline. The farther out of line we were the more whippings we got.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23889969 - 12/03/16 09:04 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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It was the opposite in my sophomore english class. The teacher would throw shit at us if we were acting up. Staplers, markers, bananas, anything within reach.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: pinedownpioneer]
#23889975 - 12/03/16 09:07 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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pinedownpioneer said: In high school a teacher smacked me in the back of the head once. I deserved it for being a prick. He later apologized after class or the next day I don't recall. I didnt rat on him even though I did not like him. I was out of line and verbal warning didn't work. But a solid smack to my head did. I wasn't a shit head in his class anymore even though I had the deck of cards in my favor. One time in karate I was not doing our warm ups properly blantely screwing around not thinking the instructor did not see me..without looking and pinpoint accuracy he kicked me squarely in the solar plexus..I collapsed unable to breath. I never fucked off again. My parents disciplined my brothers and I when we were being little shits. We all turned out great. No mental, physical, criminal, or drug addiction problems. I think it's good for kids and society even though many will disagree. There's a difference between abuse and discipline. The farther out of line we were the more whippings we got.
I can respect that reminds me of my upbringing. Big lesson for us was "if you lay hands on someone without permission or hit them expect to be hit back and twice as hard"
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#23889996 - 12/03/16 09:18 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Repertoire89 said: Weren't baby boomers hit in school? Look how they turned out, fucking wrecked the country.
I disagree with your statement on many levels. Most boomers were NOT smacked in school, their parents were, and they were one of the most amazing generations ever. How do you figure boomers wrecked our country? Dick
Baby Boomers started all that meaningless me me me everyone gets a trophy bullshit. The World War II generation were proud because they actually did something important. Baby Boomers were proud because they had everything handed to them on a silver spoon. Then they elected a bunch of presidents that put us trillions in debt because they expect free shit. Now we're all fucked because of those cunts.
You are mistaking people born 10-15 years after the boomers for boomers. Boomers are post WWII babies. The "participation" crowd is generally folks born between boomers and gen X. I find it amusing how a large portion of people between 15-30 blame mom n dad for everything. Sure, they were part of it, but younger humans are lazy to begin with, add tech and instant gratification of internet and lack of excercise you have the whiny millennials every single generation before despises as a rule. It seems there is no middle ground in anyone born after 1990, no normal, working people. My mom n pops were super poor when I was a kid, never complained, just worked harder and gave my sister and I the best they could. We got our asses whooped by mom n dad and other close family and friends. Not so much in school. We NEVER got participation awards. Where we grew up that garbage did not start until the late 90s. That's nowhere near baby boomer kids, kid. As far as our government, we could go on for hours..... If you do some research you will find the true culprits were the banks and corporate interests that the Regan and bushes allowed to go through. People did not vote for that shit, it was bought and paid for man. Do some reading on the crash of 2008, they sold out the housing market right under the governments nose using laws enacted (or lack thereof) some 50 years ago. I know the youth of today have a really hard time taking blame for the lazy, whiny, disrespectful punks most of them and thier friends are, but lazy and entitled is just that. Us 70s and 80s kids had it pretty good, and most of us did ok and sure as fuck don't blame WWII or Korea vets because mom had to go to work while dad was defending freedom. Be the change you want to see. Dick
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
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Crystal G said: Only for high school students though, not junior high or elementary.
High schoolers are old enough to reason and understand why they are getting hit, sometimes when they're getting uppity they just need to be put in their place. They'll also get over it, it won't traumatize them or even hurt them as long as you don't use excessive force.
Here's an example of a teacher slapping a student that I thought was pretty funny
maybe if the parents were allowed to spank these kids when they're younger they wouldnt need to be slapped by teachers
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
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I disagree with your statement on many levels. Most boomers were NOT smacked in school, their parents were, and they were one of the most amazing generations ever. How do you figure boomers wrecked our country? Dick
no. my mother was a baby boomer and she didnt get smacked in school, her mother didnt get smacked in school and neither did her grandmother, neither did the men in my family. they did get a paddling when it was warranted and on rare occasion when it wasnt. hell, even most of the older generation x kids were subject to a paddling when they misbehaved but the truth of the matter is that most students never received either
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23890036 - 12/03/16 09:33 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You are mistaking people born 10-15 years after the boomers for boomers. Boomers are post WWII babies. The "participation" crowd is generally folks born between boomers and gen X.
No. I meant Baby Boomers. I don't know about literal trophies but in general they started the attitude of entitlement.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
#23890053 - 12/03/16 09:37 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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A.RichardTrickle said: You are mistaking people born 10-15 years after the boomers for boomers. Boomers are post WWII babies. The "participation" crowd is generally folks born between boomers and gen X.
you really dont know what you're talking about do you
generation x followed the baby boomers, baby boomers were from post WWII to early vietnam, that cut off is 1964, the gen x crowd was from 1965 to around 1981, gen x didnt get the participation trophies and based on your performance, you wont be getting one either
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#23890062 - 12/03/16 09:39 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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This is what happens when there's no discipline.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23890067 - 12/03/16 09:40 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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your original post is a bit silly your point Of view seems to be very watered down by political correctness. It wouldn't traumatize someone and They wouldn't even fail to see why they would get that reacation if they are told not to do something. Going to private school you got a paddle to the ass for acting out.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23890082 - 12/03/16 09:49 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ribbons and trophies for everyone no matter how bad you suck! Safe and cry zones. And to think I got punished with belts, spoons, meter sticks, paddles, swimming ridiculous amount of laps doing butterfly. I would have turned out better if I had a safe zone to retreat too
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23890090 - 12/03/16 09:52 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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A.RichardTrickle said: You are mistaking people born 10-15 years after the boomers for boomers. Boomers are post WWII babies. The "participation" crowd is generally folks born between boomers and gen X.
you really dont know what you're talking about do you
generation x followed the baby boomers, baby boomers were from post WWII to early vietnam, that cut off is 1964, the gen x crowd was from 1965 to around 1981, gen x didnt get the participation trophies and based on your performance, you wont be getting one either
Pardon my breaking it down to exact ages as far as societal changes go Pris. You know the people I speak of, I have read enough of your stuff to know that bud. As our culture changes faster than ever, I don't feel (opinion) we can use the broader strokes of generations as we once did. I think you kind of missed my point, I was trying to put forth that any of us, if properly motivated can be productive citizens and helpful to human kind and not blame mommy and daddy for trying to raise happy kids  Have a great weekend man. As far as my trophies, I've got them and don't need any from you. I mean, if you want, feel free  Dick
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: qman]
#23890113 - 12/03/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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qman said: This is what happens when there's no discipline.
That principal didn't voluntarily step down from the superintendent position. She was demoted and forced into the shittiest school they could find. She must have pissed somebody off.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: pinedownpioneer]
#23890116 - 12/03/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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pinedownpioneer said: Ribbons and trophies for everyone no matter how bad you suck! Safe and cry zones. And to think I got punished with belts, spoons, meter sticks, paddles, swimming ridiculous amount of laps doing butterfly. I would have turned out better if I had a safe zone to retreat too 
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23890118 - 12/03/16 10:01 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23890121 - 12/03/16 10:02 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Mescalean]
#23890925 - 12/03/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mescalean said: Yeah I would have dared any of my teachers to pull some shit like this. I also wasn't a little shit that threw stuff though. Kept to myself. Worst was probably nap time in algebra 2. I want to see a video of a teacher slapping a kid bigger than him. Theres a freak in texas in highschool, plays football 16 years old squatting 900 lbs.... Yeah fucking think about that crystal. I want to see the scrawny pussy with a pony tail slap that kid. Find some videos like that. 16 year old fresh into life beating down some older dude who struck first.
Also does this apply to female students in your eyes crystal or do they get some privilege? Because I have seem some hilarious ghetto school fight videos where some jacked black teacher says fuck it and pretty much body slams a bitch.
Who said anything about bodyslamming? We're talking about a minute slap that doesn't even hurt.
Female students aren't exempt. Most teachers are female anyway. The reality is though, female students usually aren't the loud and obnoxious ones disrupting classrooms.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23890932 - 12/03/16 02:56 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Slapping never worked on me. I was a pretty bad kid sometimes, I grew out of it thankfully..but I was the kind of kid where if I got slapped..I just laughed it off and said "try again" until my dad got tired of it and actually grounded me, which ended up being more efficient
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Eminence]
#23890950 - 12/03/16 03:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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. The reality is though, female students usually aren't the loud and obnoxious ones disrupting classrooms.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#23890965 - 12/03/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just mean statistically, which is true. Female students aren't typically the ones trolling teachers, or pulling pranks and stunts in class. That's very typical male showoff behavior, to act like a peacock like that in front of the entire classroom.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#23890968 - 12/03/16 03:05 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's mostly true I think. It's usually the guys being loud and obnoxious trying to impress the girls.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23890986 - 12/03/16 03:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Giving authority figures the authority to hit people usually ends because a few people can't control themselves and do nothing but hit because they suck at their jobs. This is true for pretty much any profession, and there are good reasons we don't let people hit each other anymore.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23890987 - 12/03/16 03:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just mean statistically, which is true. Female students aren't typically the ones trolling teachers, or pulling pranks and stunts in class. That's very typical male showoff behavior, to act like a peacock like that in front of the entire classroom.
Quote your source then
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#23890992 - 12/03/16 03:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just tell the kids parents. They will be in big trouble.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#23891001 - 12/03/16 03:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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TheFakeSunRa said: Quote your source then
There's plenty of studies and parenting articles out there about the disruptive nature of boys in school.
Here are a few sources: http://www.nber.org/papers/w17541 http://theconversation.com/boys-are-more-likely-to-play-up-at-school-but-its-more-social-than-biological-34586
That's not to say that all or even most boys are disruptive. Most students are not disruptive, and it's usually 1 or 2 students out of a class of 30 that is misbehaving. I'm just saying that statistically and generally speaking, those few disruptive students are much more likely to be boys than girls.
Just think about it. Who is the most likely to concoct the type of stunts you would see on Jackass? You don't need a study to tell you that it's boys that are much more likely to do Jackass type stunts. It's part of the reason men die sooner, because risk-taking and extreme, impulsive behavior is typically such a masculine trait.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23891026 - 12/03/16 03:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah I was talking about this at work the other day, how the reason it is that it's so hard to find good young people to employ is that none of them ever get hit. The thing is it's a fine line. When you hit someone it has to be an act of pure rage or else the person you hit will get perverse gratification from it, but you don't want to go to jail over it. This teacher did a pretty good job. I would trust my kids with him.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23891030 - 12/03/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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This isn't scientific but I think black females are the loudest human species on earth and therefore pose the biggest problem for teachers.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#23891033 - 12/03/16 03:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Didn't have many black girls at my schools growing up..but I've been to plenty of inner city movie theaters..and I can confirm this to be true.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Eminence]
#23891035 - 12/03/16 03:33 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Idunno I can think of so many black girls who were nothing but nice. If anything it is the ones who get fucked up by hanging out with boys too much who mouth off alot, but it's all just a show.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: moonrockmushy] 1
#23891047 - 12/03/16 03:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: Yeah I was talking about this at work the other day, how the reason it is that it's so hard to find good young people to employ is that none of them ever get hit. The thing is it's a fine line. When you hit someone it has to be an act of pure rage or else the person you hit will get perverse gratification from it, but you don't want to go to jail over it. This teacher did a pretty good job. I would trust my kids with him.
Lol. My mom would request my tutors and teachers to give me a smack if I wasn't being good.
I don't know why the hell parents get so upset about another parent or teacher disciplining or even yelling at their kid. "Don't yell at my kid," bitch why?
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#23891053 - 12/03/16 03:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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TheFakeSunRa said: This isn't scientific but I think black females are the loudest human species on earth and therefore pose the biggest problem for teachers.
Back when I was in school this was the case. Creates a big stink over thier own short comings unable to follow simple directions disrupting the whole class. It was a relief once they were out of the class. Not all were like this. Some were very nice and they loved my blonde hair.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23891063 - 12/03/16 03:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: Yeah I was talking about this at work the other day, how the reason it is that it's so hard to find good young people to employ is that none of them ever get hit. The thing is it's a fine line. When you hit someone it has to be an act of pure rage or else the person you hit will get perverse gratification from it, but you don't want to go to jail over it. This teacher did a pretty good job. I would trust my kids with him.
Lol. My mom would request my tutors and teachers to give me a smack if I wasn't being good.
I don't know why the hell parents get so upset about another parent or teacher disciplining or even yelling at their kid.
Agreed. Dad would say keep him in line if you have too. I remember my football coach told me to "shut the fuck up before I strangle you son of a bitch"
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G] 1
#23891075 - 12/03/16 03:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Id hit my kid on a rare occasion if needed, Id also curb stomp any scum foolish enough to touch them
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: pinedownpioneer]
#23891082 - 12/03/16 03:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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pinedownpioneer said: Agreed. Dad would say keep him in line if you have too. I remember my football coach told me to "shut the fuck up before I strangle you son of a bitch"
There's some parents out there that are way too soft on their kids and believe their little shits are perfect little angels who can do no wrong.
One of my friends is a junior high school teacher. Sometimes she has to call the parents of extremely disruptive or bad behaving children in for a meeting with them, to discuss their children's problems.
Well, during a few of those meetings, she got the shock of her life, when some of those parents blamed HER and DEFENDED their kids!
What is it with parents who think their kids are perfect and can do no wrong?!?! What the hell. I mean 20-30 years ago, all parents would have sided with the teacher!
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Repertoire89]
#23891086 - 12/03/16 03:55 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well I wouldn't trust you around my kid. Like I said it is a fine line. You don't want a psychopath around your kids, but they've got to be both disciplined and toughened up for the real world. Being a chronic disruption in class hurts more people than slapping one punk.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Repertoire89]
#23891089 - 12/03/16 03:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Repertoire89 said: Id hit my kid on a rare occasion if needed, Id also curb stomp any scum foolish enough to touch them
But why? Why would it bother you if somebody else does that?
If you're not against physical discipline, and if you believe your child is acting out of line and defiant, why does it bother you so much if another adult in authority executes that punishment?
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23891104 - 12/03/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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My answer for that would be that it's harder to tell the real intent of a teacher vs a parent. Some teachers are just dicks with a short fuse. I have no kids so my mind could change one day
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Eminence]
#23891117 - 12/03/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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It should be legal for students to slap some teachers too.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: PumpJackTeX]
#23891119 - 12/03/16 04:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think they should just spray them with water.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23891136 - 12/03/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Having coached swimming it never ceases to amaze me just how crazy parents really are. Most were great but some were nightmares luckly the great ones usually took care of the crazies. My favorite was this lady's daughter that was a cancer to the team, great swimmer but terrible attitude, work ethic, mean. She expected to be on the state relay but another girl bumped her off because she was just a tad bit faster and was a great kid. Mom goes crazy on me during practice. I rip into her telling her that her daughter had terrible work ethic/attitude, you should also get her to practice on time and the stopwatch doesnt lie now gtfo my pool deck. The swim team board members backed me up and actually praised me.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23891137 - 12/03/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: Well I wouldn't trust you around my kid. Like I said it is a fine line. You don't want a psychopath around your kids, but they've got to be both disciplined and toughened up for the real world. Being a chronic disruption in class hurts more people than slapping one punk.
Lol, great judge of character. Have fun with the child beating circlejerk
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But why? Why would it bother you if somebody else does that?
If you're not against physical discipline, and if you believe your child is acting out of line and defiant, why does it bother you so much if another adult in authority executes that punishment?
Dont touch other peoples kids, theres nothing to discuss
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23891141 - 12/03/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: they've got to be both disciplined and toughened up for the real world.
In the real world, no one slaps, hits or sucker punches other people with the end goal of getting them to act better, listen or do a good job.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Repertoire89]
#23891148 - 12/03/16 04:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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There's a cultural difference with Crystal and her parents. She's Asian. They don't play around with the education
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#23891154 - 12/03/16 04:13 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The widespread retardation in this thread is surprising. Violence is a stupid, idiotic, degenerate way of handling simple issues like behavior.
A paper on the effects of corporal punishment on academic success:
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I. Introduction
Dear Chairperson McCarthy, Ranking Member Platts, and Members of the Subcommittee:
On behalf of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), its over half a million members, countless additional supporters and activists, and fifty-three affiliates nationwide and Human Rights Watch, one of the world's leading independent organizations dedicated to defending and protecting human rights, we applaud the House Education and Labor Subcommittee on Healthy Families and Communities for conducting a hearing concerning the ongoing corporal punishment of American public school children and its impact on their educational success.
The ACLU is a nationwide, non-partisan organization working daily in courts, Congress, and communities to defend and preserve the civil rights and liberties that the Constitution and laws of the United States guarantee everyone in this country. For thirty years, Human Rights Watch has investigated human rights violations wherever they occur, including in the United States, exposed the perpetrators, and advocated for change. We are pleased to submit this written statement for the record on the issue of corporal punishment in public schools - a vitally important issue affecting children's access to high-quality education and a safe and supportive learning atmosphere.
II. The Ongoing Use of Corporal Punishment in Public Schools
Each year, hundreds of thousands of students are subjected to corporal punishment in public schools.[1] Despite the many problems associated with the hitting or paddling of students, corporal punishment is a legal form of school discipline in 20 states.[2] Of these, thirteen states have reported that corporal punishment was inflicted on over one thousand students[3] -- and eight states reported its use against at least ten thousand students[4]-- during the 2006-2007 school year. While significant, these numbers do not tell the whole story. These statistics only reflect data which has been reported to the Department of Education and they only include the number of students who are subjected to corporal punishment during the school year, not the total number of times that an individual student has been hit over his or her educational career.[5]
Aside from the infliction of pain and the physical injuries which often result from the use physical punishments, these violent disciplinary methods also impact students' academic achievement and long-term well-being.[6] Despite significant evidence that corporal punishment is detrimental to a productive learning environment, there is currently no federal prohibition on the use of physical discipline against children in public school. In fact, children in some states receive greater protections against corporal punishment in detention facilities than they do in their public schools.[7] For this reason and others, the ACLU and HRW are encouraged that this subcommittee is seeking to address the problems stemming from corporal punishment in schools.
III. The Disproportionate Use of Corporal Punishment
Students of color and students with disabilities are disproportionately subjected to corporal punishment, hampering their access to a supportive learning environment. According to the Department of Education, while African Americans make up 17.1 percent of public school students nationwide, they accounted for 35.6 percent of those who were paddled during the 2006-2007 school year.[8] In A Violent Education and Impairing Education, two joint reports published by the ACLU and HRW detailing the effects of corporal punishment in public schools, interviewees noted the disproportionate application of corporal punishment:
One Mississippi high school student described the administration of corporal punishment in her school this way: "every time you walk down the hall you see a black kid getting whipped. I would say out of the whole school there's only about three white kids who have gotten paddled."[9] A Mississippi teacher also noted the racial disparity in the administration of corporal punishment: "I've heard this said at my school and at other schools: ‘This child should get less whips, it'll leave marks.' Students that are dark-skinned, it takes more to let their skin be bruised. Even with all black students, there is an imbalance: darker-skinned students get worse punishment. This really affected me, being a dark-skinned person myself."[10] Evidence shows that students with disabilities are also disproportionally subjected to corporal punishment. The Department of Education has reported that although students with disabilities constitute 13.7 percent of all public school students, they make up 18.8 percent of those who are subjected to corporal punishment.[11] In many of these cases, students were punished for exhibiting behaviors related to their disabilities, such as autism or Tourette's syndrome.[12] The effects of corporal punishment on students with disabilities can dramatically impact their behavior and hamper their academic performance. In Impairing Education, parents and grandparents of students with disabilities noted the changes in behavior and barriers to educational achievement stemming from the use of corporal punishment:
A grandmother of a student who has Asperger's syndrome withdrew him from his Oklahoma school in part because of the hostile environment stemming from frequent use of corporal punishment: "It made him much more introverted. He very much didn't want to go to school . . . No one's supposed to go to school to be tortured, school is supposed to be fun." [13] A mother of a student with autism reported that her son's behavior changed after he was struck in his Florida school: "He's an avoider by nature, before he was never aggressive. Now, he struggles with anger; right after the incidents he'd have anger explosions."[14] Hitting any student should be an unacceptable practice, but the disproportionate application of corporal punishment further undermines the educational environment for minority groups and students with disabilities.[15] A federal prohibition on corporal punishment in public schools is necessary to protect students from the discriminatory impact and the academic harms which it brings.
IV. The Impact of Corporal Punishment On Students' Academic Performance
Harsh physical punishments do not improve students' in-school behavior or academic performance. In fact, one recent study found that in states where corporal punishment is frequently used, schools have performed worse academically than those in states that prohibit corporal punishment.[16] While most states demonstrated improvements in their American College Testing (ACT) scores from 1994 to 2008, "as a group, states that paddled the most improved their scores the least."[17] At the same time "the ten states with the longest histories of forbidding corporal punishment improved the most" with improvement rates three times higher than those states which reported frequent use of corporal punishment.[18]
Many children who have been subjected to hitting, paddling or other harsh disciplinary practices have reported subsequent problems with depression, fear and anger.[19] These students frequently withdraw from school activities and disengage academically.[20] The Society for Adolescent Medicine has found that victims of corporal punishment often develop "deteriorating peer relationships, difficulty with concentration, lowered school achievement, antisocial behavior, intense dislike of authority, somatic complaints, a tendency for school avoidance and school drop-out, and other evidence of negative high-risk adolescent behavior."[21] One Mississippi student interviewed for A Violent Education described the effects of corporal punishment on his attitude towards school:
"[Y]ou could get a paddling for almost anything. I hated it. It was used as a way to degrade, embarrass students. . . I said I'd never take another paddling, it's humiliating, it's degrading. Some teachers like to paddle students. Paddling causes you to lose respect for a person, stop listening to them."[22] Corporal punishment places parents and teachers in positions where they may have to choose between educational advancement and students' physical well-being. For instance, some parents who learn that their children are being struck at public school find themselves without recourse, unable to effectively opt-out from the practice, and unable to obtain legal or other redress when their children have been paddled against their wishes. Ultimately some parents find that the only way they can protect their children from physical harm is to withdraw them from school altogether.[23] Similarly, teachers who work in schools where corporal punishment is administered are often reluctant to send disruptive students out of the classroom because they are afraid the students will be beaten.[24]
Moreover, a public school's use of corporal punishment affects every student in that school, including those who are not personally subjected to hitting or paddling. The prevalent use of physical violence against students creates an overall threatening school atmosphere that impacts students' ability to perform academically.[25] Often, children who experience or witness physical violence will themselves develop disruptive and violent behaviors, further disturbing their classmates' learning as well as their own.[26]
Corporal punishment is a destructive form of discipline that is ineffective in producing educational environments in which students can thrive. Rather than relying on harsh and threatening disciplinary tactics, schools and teachers should be encouraged to develop positive behavior supports (PBS), which have proven effective in reducing the need for harsh discipline while supporting a safe and productive learning environment.[27] The Positive Behavior for Safe and Effective Schools Act (H.R. 2597) would help states and Local Education Agencies (LEAs) create positive learning environments by allowing them to use Title I funds to develop PBS practices. This bill would also require the Department of Education to provide assistance and support so that states may fully realize the potential of supportive and flexible behavior discipline practices. By abandoning ineffective and brutal disciplinary practices, and by encouraging the adoption of PBS methods, our nation can provide opportunities for all students to achieve academic success in a supportive and safe school environment.
V. Recommendations
In order to prevent the continued use of violence against children in our schools, we recommend that Congress:
Introduce and pass federal legislation prohibiting the use of corporal punishment in public schools, conditioned on the receipt of federal funding. Define corporal punishment as any punishment by which physical force is used with the intention of causing some degree of pain or discomfort, however light. Promote the use of positive behavioral supports by passing H.R. 2597, and provide teachers and school administrators with the tools and resources necessary to develop safe and effective methods for encouraging positive student behavior Provide students and their families with a private right of action to enforce their rights to be free from physical punishment and to a safe and supportive learning environment in administrative or judicial actions. Require all schools and LEAs to report all instances where corporal punishment is used, not just the number of students who are punished in a given year. This data should be collected and disaggregated by student subgroups to assess disproportionate application. Provide funding to those states which implement PBS practices so that teachers may be effectively trained to create safe and supportive school discipline plans. VI. Conclusion
The ACLU and HRW would like to thank Chairperson McCarthy and the Subcommittee on Healthy Families and Communities for their efforts to address the problems arising from corporal punishment in public schools. The use of violence against students is never an acceptable means of punishment - it harms students physically, psychologically and academically. The use of corporal punishment in schools is interfering with students' right to be treated with dignity and, as a result, is interfering with their right to a quality education. By prohibiting the use of corporal punishment and helping states to develop safe and effective behavioral practices, this Congress could help to ensure that our nation's children are able to achieve their full educational potential in a supportive learning environment.
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[1] During the 2006-2007 school year, at least 223,190 students in the U.S. were subjected to corporal punishment. See U.S. Department of Education, Office for Civil Rights, Civil Rights Data Collection 2006, http://ocrdata.ed.gov/Projections_2006.aspx (last accessed April 1, 2010) [hereinafter Civil Rights Data Collection].
[2] Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, and Wyoming. See American Civil Liberties Union & Human Rights Watch, Impairing Education 27 (2009), available at http://www.aclu.org/human-rights/impairing-education-corporal-punishment-students-disabilities-us-public-schools ; [hereinafter Impairing Education].
[3] Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Missouri, Mississippi, South Carolina, Tennessee & Texas. See id. at 27.
[4] Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Mississippi, Tennessee and Texas. See id, at 27.
[5] Many school districts may fail to report corporal punishment data to the Department of Education, and many incidents may not be recorded in the first place. See American Civil Liberties Union & Human Rights Watch, A Violent Education 45-46 (2008), available at http://www.aclu.org/human-rights-racial-justice/violent-education-corporal-punishment-children-us-public-schools [hereinafter A Violent Education]; Impairing Education, at 30-31.
[6] See generally A Violent Education, at 57; Impairing Education, at 4-5.
[7] Corporal punishment of children in juvenile justice facilities has been prohibited by the Courts of Appeals in several Federal Circuits. See Nelson v. Heyne, 491 F.2d 352 (7th Cir. 1974), cert. denied 417 U.S. 476 (paddling of children in juvenile detention was a violation of the Eighth Amendment's ban on cruel and unusual punishment); Morales v. Turman, 562 F.2d 993, 998 (5th Cir. 1977) (corporal punishment and physical abuse in juvenile detention facilities subject to prohibition as a violation of Eighth Amendment), rev'd on other grounds, 535 F.2d 864 (5th Cir. 1976), rev'd and remanded, 430 U.S. 322 (1977). See also, Santana v. Collazo, 533 F. Supp. 966 (D.P.R. 1982) (corporal punishment against juveniles in industrial schools and juvenile camps violates Eighth Amendment and is barred "for any reason"), aff'd in part and vacated in part, 714 F.2d 1172 (lst Cir. 1983), cert. denied, 466 U.S. 974 (1984). The American Correctional Association has also issued standards banning use of corporal punishment in juvenile facilities. See also Steven J. Martin, Staff Use of Force in United States Confinement Settings, 22 Wash. U. J.L. & Pol'y 145 (2006). In addition, corporal punishment and other harsh disciplinary practices are prohibited in publicly-funded non-medical substance abuse and long-term medical care facilities. See, e.g., 42 U.S.C. § 290jj (banning corporal punishment in "non-medical community-based facilities for children and youth."); 42 C.F.R. § 483.13 (banning corporal punishment in long-term medical care facilities).
[8] Civil Rights Data Collection, supra note 1. See also A Violent Education, at 5 ("In the same year [2006-2007], in the 13 states with the highest rates of paddling, 1.4 times as many African American students were paddled as might be expected given their percentage of the student population. Although girls of all races were paddled less than boys, African American girls were nonetheless physically punished at more than twice the rate of their white counterparts in those 13 states during this period").
[9] A Violent Education, at 72 (interview with Abrea T., Dec. 10, 2007).
[10] A Violent Education, at 75-76 (interview with Catherine V., Nov. 7, 2007).
[11] In the 2006-2007 school year, 41,972 students with disabilities were subjected to corporal punishment during the 2006-2007 school year. See Civil Rights Data Collection, supra note 1.
[12] See Impairing Education, at 35-40.
[13] Impairing Education, at 44 (interview with Sarah P. May 22, 2009).
[14] Impairing Education, at 43 (interview with Anna M., March 9, 2009).
[15] See A Violent Education, at 75.
[16] Michael Hickmon, Study: Paddling vs. ACT Scores and Civil Immunity Legislation (2008), available at http://www.stophitting.com/index.php?page=paddlingvsact.
[17] Id.
[18] Id.
[19] See A Violent Education, at 54; Impairing Education, at 42-43.
[20] See A Violent Education, at 54; Impairing Education, at 43-44.
[21] Society for Adolescent Medicine, Position Paper: Corporal Punishment in Schools, 32:5 J. Adolescent Health 385, 388 (2003).
[22] A Violent Education, at 55 (interview with Sean D., Dec. 14, 2007).
[23] See Impairing Education, at 6.
[24] See id. at 5.
[25] See A Violent Education, at 25-29.
[26] This is often because students who have been subjected to corporal punishment have learned through their experiences that physical violence is an appropriate way to handle conflict. The American Academy of Pediatrics has noted that "corporal punishment may adversely affect a student's self-image and school achievement and it may contribute to disruptive and violent behavior." American Academy of Pediatrics, Committee on School Health, Corporal Punishment in Schools, 106:2 Pediatrics 343 (2000), available at http://aappolicy.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/pediatrics;106/2/343.
[27] See, e.g., Stephen P. Safran & Karen Oswald, Positive Behavior Supports: Can Schools Reshape Disciplinary Practices?, 69:3 Exceptional Child. 361 (2003), available at http://www.casenex.com/casenex/cecReadings/positiveBehavior.pdf.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Repertoire89]
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As I get older I came to realized they are better ways to get your point across to someone younger but it's not always easy to know what works so we just hit them, its easier and takes less work.
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moonrockmushy said: Yeah I was talking about this at work the other day, how the reason it is that it's so hard to find good young people to employ is that none of them ever get hit. The thing is it's a fine line. When you hit someone it has to be an act of pure rage or else the person you hit will get perverse gratification from it, but you don't want to go to jail over it. This teacher did a pretty good job. I would trust my kids with him.
Lol. My mom would request my tutors and teachers to give me a smack if I wasn't being good.
I don't know why the hell parents get so upset about another parent or teacher disciplining or even yelling at their kid. "Don't yell at my kid," bitch why?
all this from someone that told me it was morally reprehensible to spank my own children, that it would cause them to grow up and be violent thugs
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I don't believe in doing it to little kids, teenagers it's fine.
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Eminence said: My answer for that would be that it's harder to tell the real intent of a teacher vs a parent. Some teachers are just dicks with a short fuse. I have no kids so my mind could change one day 
Theres that, and the teachers obvious incompetence if they have to strike kids to get through a few hours of class Hitting should be very rare, maybe a handful of occasions over the course of ones childhood, if needed at all.
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Lol. My mom would request my tutors and teachers to give me a smack if I wasn't being good.
I don't know why the hell parents get so upset about another parent or teacher disciplining or even yelling at their kid. "Don't yell at my kid," bitch why?
all this from someone that told me it was morally reprehensible to spank my own children, that it would cause them to grow up and be violent thugs
or a bunch of drug addicts.
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falsereality said: The widespread retardation in this thread is surprising. Violence is a stupid, idiotic, degenerate way of handling simple issues like behavior.
false. if you misbehave by pulling a knife on me then I'm going to correct your bad behavior in an much more violent way, you'd be surprised at how quickly someone's attitudes toward unprovoked violence changes when they're dead
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I spanked my kids, they're both in the gifted program, my son is in honors classes, volunteers his time, belongs in a couple of the school clubs including one that's service oriented and the rocketry club. my daughter will likely do the same sorts of things
99.999% of these papers are horse shit
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I don't believe in doing it to little kids, teenagers it's fine.
so dont correct the behaviors while they're young so that it;'s a problem that needs serious correction when they're older... makes perfect liberal sense
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That's It? Imagine how much more successfully you could have been if you could have explained to them what they were doing wrong and giving them a solution rather than just hitting them?
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Yeah, just let it be known that countries that have some of the highest-achieving students in math and other subjects are countries that still practice corporal punishment in schools. South Korea, India, China...
I had a Korean tutor just like the guy in this video we called him Uncle Hambing. Whenever we were rough-housing and acting up he spanked us with this bigass ruler. He was a lot easier on me because I was a girl though, he would sometimes leave welts and marks on the boys.
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TexXx said: That's It? Imagine how much more successfully you could have been if you could have explained to them what they were doing wrong and giving them a solution rather than just hitting them?
I know right, my 8th grader could be the president of a major corporation right now, my 6th grader could have been the first female president but I spanked them and the republicans dont accept 11 year old girls that have been spanked as serious candidates.
they only accept them as a 'niece' on a trip to vegas
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Crystal G said: I don't believe in doing it to little kids, teenagers it's fine.
You are an idiot, the world would be a better place if your parents drowned you in a bathtub.
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First of all, false analogy, so your entire point here is worthless. Let's pretend like it's not a false analogy and continue -- in this specific scenario you would be justified in killing whoever pulled a knife on you. I've actually been in this scenario multiple times, and I have gone as far as throwing someone through a drywall to remediate the situation. This line of thought does not carry at all when it comes to correcting children's behavior, and to bring up someone pulling a knife on you is either disingenuous or stupid, pick one.
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99.999% of these papers are horse shit
Correlation does not equal causation, so once again this point is invalid. Honestly, it's a shame you couldn't find less violent parenting methods to produce the same result.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
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People who grow up without physically discipline have less depression than kids who were punish in a different forum.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
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Crystal G said: Yeah, just let it be known that countries that have some of the highest-achieving students in math and other subjects are countries that still practice corporal punishment in schools. South Korea, India, China...
I had a Korean tutor just like the guy in this video we called him Uncle Hambing. Whenever we were rough-housing and acting up he spanked us with this bigass ruler. He was a lot easier on me because I was a girl though, he would sometimes leave welts and marks on the boys.
when I was in school I was paddled at least 1 a month, sometimes more frequently and it was both teachers and administration, I didnt mind it with some of those teachers, in fact I kind of enjoyed it
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TexXx said: As I get older I came to realized they are better ways to get your point across to someone younger but it's not always easy to know what works so we just hit them, its easier and takes less work.
I had one really obnoxious student, very difficult to reach. His parents obviously beat him before one class, none of my business but I disagree with the punishment. He had literal piles of toys and video games which were the obvious culprit to my eye, too many distractions, too much instant gratification, and the sheer number of trifles would make it all seem disposable / without value. An unruly kid being fed garbage psychologically, theres no point in a beating without addressing his environment and reward system first.
Its just easier to try and force a change in behavior instead of working on the underlying problems,.internalizing issues instead of resolving them.
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Crystal G said: Yeah, just let it be known that countries that have some of the highest-achieving students in math and other subjects are countries that still practice corporal punishment in schools. South Korea, India, China...
I had a Korean tutor just like the guy in this video we called him Uncle Hambing. Whenever we were rough-housing and acting up he spanked us with this bigass ruler. He was a lot easier on me because I was a girl though, he would sometimes leave welts and marks on the boys.
when I was in school I was paddled at least 1 a month, sometimes more frequently and it was both teachers and administration, I didnt mind it with some of those teachers, in fact I kind of enjoyed it
Sounds like you were a distraction to the educational system & and a rotton kid.
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You are an idiot, the world would be a better place if your parents drowned you in a bathtub.
are you angry that your parents made you go to time out to play with your toys?
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First of all, false analogy, so your entire point here is worthless. Let's pretend like it's not a false analogy and continue -- in this specific scenario you would be justified in killing whoever pulled a knife on you. I've actually been in this scenario multiple times, and I have gone as far as throwing someone through a drywall to remediate the situation. This line of thought does not carry at all when it comes to correcting children's behavior, and to bring up someone pulling a knife on you is either disingenuous or stupid, pick one.
kill the first kid and the rest of them will behave
why didnt you just talk to them instead of throwing them through drywall
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I spanked my kids, they're both in the gifted program, my son is in honors classes, volunteers his time, belongs in a couple of the school clubs including one that's service oriented and the rocketry club. my daughter will likely do the same sorts of things
99.999% of these papers are horse shit
Correlation does not equal causation, so once again this point is invalid. Honestly, it's a shame you couldn't find less violent parenting methods to produce the same result.
isnt that exactly what that paper is claiming, that students that get spanked are less likely to be successful, that is in fact pointing out that correlation is causation, you cant have the argument both ways
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Crystal G said: Yeah, just let it be known that countries that have some of the highest-achieving students in math and other subjects are countries that still practice corporal punishment in schools. South Korea, India, China...
Those are also shitholes, and having an over achiever who jumps out a window at work one day isnt a success story.
The age of enlightenment was about human dignity, not solving math problems.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: PumpJackTeX]
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TexXx said: Sounds like you were a distraction to the educational system & and a rotton kid.
that sounds about accurate
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Prisoner#1]
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It was too many words for me to read.
Thanks for the summery!
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: PumpJackTeX]
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I thought he was making a statement how the OP agreeded, so I came in with my opinion. I dont need some horse shut study to tell me the facts.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: falsereality]
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Crystal G said: I don't believe in doing it to little kids, teenagers it's fine.
You are an idiot, the world would be a better place if your parents drowned you in a bathtub.
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Prisoner#1 said: false. if you misbehave by pulling a knife on me then I'm going to correct your bad behavior in an much more violent way, you'd be surprised at how quickly someone's attitudes toward unprovoked violence changes when they're dead
First of all, false analogy, so your entire point here is worthless. Let's pretend like it's not a false analogy and continue -- in this specific scenario you would be justified in killing whoever pulled a knife on you. I've actually been in this scenario multiple times, and I have gone as far as throwing someone through a drywall to remediate the situation. This line of thought does not carry at all when it comes to correcting children's behavior, and to bring up someone pulling a knife on you is either disingenuous or stupid, pick one.
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I spanked my kids, they're both in the gifted program, my son is in honors classes, volunteers his time, belongs in a couple of the school clubs including one that's service oriented and the rocketry club. my daughter will likely do the same sorts of things
99.999% of these papers are horse shit
Correlation does not equal causation, so once again this point is invalid. Honestly, it's a shame you couldn't find less violent parenting methods to produce the same result.
Spanking is bad in your paradigm but you suggest murdering babies. No way you were able to push someone through sheet rock?! I did that when I was 5...literally. Try having a 12 gauge pulled on you..ended up beating that dudes ass.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said: when I was in school I was paddled at least 1 a month ... I didnt mind ... in fact I kind of enjoyed it

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Prisoner#1 said: are you angry that your parents made you go to time out to play with your toys?
Not in the slightest. I actually quite enjoyed biking, hiking, back packing, camping etc. as a kid.
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Prisoner#1 said: kill the first kid and the rest of them will behave
why didnt you just talk to them instead of throwing them through drywall
Considering they actually stabbed me we were past the point of talking. Either way, your original point is still invalid which makes this line of conversation worthless when considering the core argument here.
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isnt that exactly what that paper is claiming, that students that get spanked are less likely to be successful, that is in fact pointing out that correlation is causation, you cant have the argument both ways
Apparently you were too busy getting paddled to learn the scientific method.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: pinedownpioneer]
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Whoah I caught pris going back and completely editing his post so it wouldn't look like he wasn't making mush sense and getting beat in a argument & instead of everyone seeing that he completely changed everything.
I have never done that, only to fix spelling.
You have lost all my respect Mr. MOD MAN!
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Repertoire89]
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Crystal G said: Yeah, just let it be known that countries that have some of the highest-achieving students in math and other subjects are countries that still practice corporal punishment in schools. South Korea, India, China...
Those are also shitholes, and having an over achiever who jumps out a window at work one day isnt a success story.
The age of enlightenment was about human dignity, not solving math problems.
South Korea, a shithole? This isn't the 1980's, perhaps you should research how developed other countries are a little more. 
A huge part of the age of enlightenment was also about expansion of human knowledge, furthering your knowledge in mathematics, astronomy, philosophy, and the arts, etc.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: pinedownpioneer]
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pinedownpioneer said: Spanking is bad in your paradigm but you suggest murdering babies. No way you were able to push someone through sheet rock?! I did that when I was 5...literally. Try having a 12 gauge pulled on you..ended up beating that dudes ass.
I only suggested murdering CrystalG as a baby, otherwise I'm against infanticide.
Cool story bro, it's irrelevant.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: pinedownpioneer]
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lol... I never said spanking was bad
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No way you were able to push someone through sheet rock?! I did that when I was 5...literally.
sheetrock is weak, studs make it stronger, spacing the studs on 24inch centers reduces that strength. I can punch holes in sheetrock with ease, 3/8" and 1/2" rock being the easiest.
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Try having a 12 gauge pulled on you..ended up beating that dudes ass.
well aint you just a tough guy
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23891280 - 12/03/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You making fun of him for being a tough guy & you were just explaining your phically ability of strength by punching sheet rock?
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#23891284 - 12/03/16 04:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I can punch powder rock too! Like massisivly hard dude!
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: falsereality]
#23891286 - 12/03/16 04:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Babies are supposed to be innocent and you have no idea know how babies will turnout. Therfore you advocate murdering innocent children. Tough not really. But I do enjoy wrangling sharks out of the water.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
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pinedownpioneer said: Agreed. Dad would say keep him in line if you have too. I remember my football coach told me to "shut the fuck up before I strangle you son of a bitch"
There's some parents out there that are way too soft on their kids and believe their little shits are perfect little angels who can do no wrong.
One of my friends is a junior high school teacher. Sometimes she has to call the parents of extremely disruptive or bad behaving children in for a meeting with them, to discuss their children's problems.
Well, during a few of those meetings, she got the shock of her life, when some of those parents blamed HER and DEFENDED their kids!
What is it with parents who think their kids are perfect and can do no wrong?!?! What the hell. I mean 20-30 years ago, all parents would have sided with the teacher!
Yeah, things have changed for sure. Sometimes the teachers are the target of the students, parents and administration.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: pinedownpioneer]
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pinedownpioneer said: Babies are supposed to be innocent and you have no idea know how babies will turnout. Therfore you advocate murdering innocent children.
Ok, fine, CrystalG should have been drowned as a teenager by her tiger parents.
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Crystal G said: Yeah, just let it be known that countries that have some of the highest-achieving students in math and other subjects are countries that still practice corporal punishment in schools. South Korea, India, China...
Those are also shitholes, and having an over achiever who jumps out a window at work one day isnt a success story.
The age of enlightenment was about human dignity, not solving math problems.
South Korea, a shithole? This isn't the 1980's, perhaps you should research how developed other countries are a little more. 
A huge part of the age of enlightenment was also about expansion of human knowledge, furthering your knowledge in mathematics, astronomy, philosophy, and the arts, etc.
My point was that I dont live in a murky slum in Asia, the age of enlightenment was a European movement which redefined western values from the basis of human dignity. No country represents that more than the US which was discovered and founded in the midst of all that, with many of those values expressed explicitly in the constitution. Despite all the hypocrisy, what Im alluding to is the priority of someones state of mind over the efficacy of their academic success.
India, China, Russia and whoever else can stay in the middle ages as long as they like. This place is bad enough without modeling ourselves over societies completely devoid of values.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Repertoire89]
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I agree, although i think it would be fine after they are ~12 yo or so. Waiting till highschool would be unnecessary.
I was a massive cunt in school and my grades weren't great. probably would have done a lot better academically if i had some sense slapped into me once in awhile.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
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Prisoner#1 said: all this from someone that told me it was morally reprehensible to spank my own children, that it would cause them to grow up and be violent thugs
I don't believe in doing it to little kids, teenagers it's fine.
Ehh, I feel this way about dogs, but I like dogs. With kids as soon as they're old enough to know what's going on I think it is ok as long as you know where to draw the line. It's a funny thing, but raising a decent kid without smacking them once would be a marvel to me.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: falsereality]
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pinedownpioneer said: Babies are supposed to be innocent and you have no idea know how babies will turnout. Therfore you advocate murdering innocent children.
Ok, fine, CrystalG should have been drowned as a teenager by her tiger parents.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Repertoire89]
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You're missing the point and going on a tangent that is largely irrelevant. I merely pointed out the fact that lots of countries excel academically despite having corporal punishment in school. This was in response to Prisoner #1's post, where he was probably responding to somebody I ignored, who posted something about how corporal punishment is correlated to low academic performance. But the mere fact that there are many countries out there that excel academically and still practice corporal punishment refutes this.
There are many parenting styles that Americans would protest again, that work just fine for many different countries.
I don't know what kind of delusional world you're living in either, if you truly think the USA is some paradigm of morality and dignity. You aren't living in some utopia, and practically all of the rest of the western world thinks this country is full of a bunch of sloppy degenerates.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23891358 - 12/03/16 05:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crystal G said: You're missing the point and going on a tangent that is largely irrelevant. I merely pointed out the fact that lots of countries excel academically despite having corporal punishment in school. This was in response to Prisoner #1's post, where he was probably responding to somebody I ignored, who posted something about how corporal punishment is correlated to low academic performance. But the mere fact that there are many countries out there that excel academically and still practice corporal punishment refutes this.
There are many parenting styles that Americans would protest again, that work just fine for many different countries.
I didnt miss any of that, its exactly what I was addressing by saying that it doesnt matter if the kids respond well academically, the means dont justify the end and there are better methods which actually address the issues rather than internalizing them.
I disagree that such methods work anywhere, being caned by some entitled asshole is no different there than it is here.
Also somewhat off topic, but when I said those societies have no values, I was speaking on an individual level. Old world values concern ones responsibility towards society and ignore socieities responsibility to the individual.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
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Crystal G said: You're missing the point and going on a tangent that is largely irrelevant. I merely pointed out the fact that lots of countries excel academically despite having corporal punishment in school. This was in response to Prisoner #1's post, where he was probably responding to somebody I ignored, who posted something about how corporal punishment is correlated to low academic performance. But the mere fact that there are many countries out there that excel academically and still practice corporal punishment refutes this.
Hey Crystal, looks like you still have me on ignore. I guess we can just add "coward" to the laundry list of negative traits you posses, including but not limited to; degenerate, rapist, narcissistic, delusional, idiot.
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#23891375 - 12/03/16 05:14 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Naw she probably just realized you're an idiot. Why don't you just say what you have to say and be done with it?
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23891385 - 12/03/16 05:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: Naw she probably just realized you're an idiot. Why don't you just say what you have to say and be done with it?
I'm done.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: PumpJackTeX]
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TexXx said: You making fun of him for being a tough guy & you were just explaining your phically ability of strength by punching sheet rock?
I know it seems hypocritical but sheetrock has never once pulled a shotgun on me so it's different, it's defenseless, I mean it's just gypsum covered in paper and paper provides it no protection so all it can do is sit there and take my abuse
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23891413 - 12/03/16 05:24 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: Naw she probably just realized you're an idiot. Why don't you just say what you have to say and be done with it?
Haha. I blocked him because he literally tries to derail all my threads with irrelevant shit and all he does is attack my character. I don't need drama, I don't respond to drama from little attention-seekers like him. This guy on the other hand actively tries to seek out drama and attempts to provoke it.
The fact that he still repetitively responds with this sort of shit even knowing I can't read any of his posts, is a testament to how desperate he is to try to get my attention.
It's sad that I affect his pathetic little life so much.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: pinedownpioneer]
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pinedownpioneer said: Babies are supposed to be innocent and you have no idea know how babies will turnout. Therfore you advocate murdering innocent children. Tough not really.
if you murder the babies then you know exactly how they'll turn out
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23891426 - 12/03/16 05:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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All I know is if A teacher whaled on some of my class mates that I saw, they would have a hay day with it and even look for a reason to get them fired/arrested. Try hitting a 17 year old senior who is pissed off wont end well. loss of job jail/ ruined life.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23891429 - 12/03/16 05:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: Naw she probably just realized you're an idiot. Why don't you just say what you have to say and be done with it?
Haha. I blocked him because he literally tries to derail all my threads with irrelevant shit and all he does is attack my character. I don't need drama, I don't respond to drama from little attention-seekers like him. This guy on the other hand actively tries to seek out drama and attempts to provoke it.
The fact that he still repetitively responds with this sort of shit even knowing I can't read any of his posts, is a testament to how desperate he is to try to get my attention.
It's sad that I affect his pathetic little life so much.
If you block him can he still see the post?
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
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moonrockmushy said: Naw she probably just realized you're an idiot. Why don't you just say what you have to say and be done with it?
Haha. I blocked him because he literally tries to derail all my threads with irrelevant shit and all he does is attack my character. I don't need drama, I don't respond to drama from little attention-seekers like him. This guy on the other hand actively tries to seek out drama and attempts to provoke it.
The fact that he still repetitively responds with this sort of shit even knowing I can't read any of his posts, is a testament to how desperate he is to try to get my attention.
It's sad that I affect his pathetic little life so much.
I do have to say, as liberals go you're one of the good ones, you have your ideas, you're open to hearing others opinions and will give you own opinions and you do so pretty respectfully, a little spirited at times when others are but you're very rarely out of line... faked reality has a serious hard on for you and you took the highroad on that one but it makes me wonder what got it all started...
did you guys exchange dick picks and it turned out yours was bigger?
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Prisoner#1]
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I let them go after measurments and a tag next to the dorsal fin for scientific research.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: pinedownpioneer]
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we usually tag them in the pelvic fin region for our 'scientific research'
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TexXx said: If you block him can he still see the post?
He can read my posts, but I can't read any of his. I only saw his one post that Prisoner #1 quoted, because it was placed in a separate quote bracket from his user name.
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Prisoner#1 said: I do have to say, as liberals go you're one of the good ones, you have your ideas, you're open to hearing others opinions and will give you own opinions and you do so pretty respectfully, a little spirited at times when others are but you're very rarely out of line... faked reality has a serious hard on for you and you took the highroad on that one but it makes me wonder what got it all started...
did you guys exchange dick picks and it turned out yours was bigger?
Thanks Pris, I appreciate it. Believe it or not I am friends with people who are even flat out white supremacists, I try to understand where people are coming from, I don't believe in attacking or ignoring people just because they have a different world view.
As for what started this "feud" between us, I honestly have no idea. I don't remember ever having a verbal argument or confrontation or anything with him that started this whole thing.
I just started noticing a pattern, that this one particular member by the name of "falsereality" kept following me into threads repeatedly and calling me a rapist and all sorts of things.
For no reason either, it was typically unprovoked, and completely irrelevant and not conducive at all to the thread's natural flow of discussion. But he started doing it in thread after thread after that, so much that it was bordering on the verge of harassment and stalking, because it was clear that at this point he was just following me into threads just to harass me. So I decided to simply block this person, since you can't reason with an idiot attention-seeker whose only goal is to create drama.
He might just be mentally ill or something, he has to be, to be so persistently hostile to somebody who has never done anything to him. He tries to claim moral high ground by calling me a rapist and all this other shit, but in reality confrontational, aggressive types like him are the most dangerous and imbalanced people out there. He's the type of person that would blow up my mailbox and poison my dog while simultaneously screaming about what a horrible and evil person I am.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
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If your friend with rasict killers I underpants why you can thank someone who beat their kids into perfection ?
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: PumpJackTeX]
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By "friends" with them I don't mean that they are in my inner circle of friends that I love and trust. I mean that they are people that I've met along my travels who happen to harbor these worldviews. I don't get mad at them or try to block them when I see their posts on social media, I do ask questions however.
Also where the hell did I claim you can beat your kids into perfection? Who said anything about beating? And who said anything about perfection?
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
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TexXx said: If you block him can he still see the post?
He can read my posts, but I can't read any of his. I only saw his one post that Prisoner #1 quoted, because it was placed in a separate quote bracket from his user name.
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Prisoner#1 said: I do have to say, as liberals go you're one of the good ones, you have your ideas, you're open to hearing others opinions and will give you own opinions and you do so pretty respectfully, a little spirited at times when others are but you're very rarely out of line... faked reality has a serious hard on for you and you took the highroad on that one but it makes me wonder what got it all started...
did you guys exchange dick picks and it turned out yours was bigger?
Thanks Pris, I appreciate it. Believe it or not I am friends with people who are even flat out white supremacists, I try to understand where people are coming from, I don't believe in attacking or ignoring people just because they have a different world view.
I know, I've gained mad respect for you over the years because you arent a petty, spiteful little shit, sure, I pick at you relentlessly by calling you a progressive, a liberal and probably a fried wonton every now and then but it doesnt diminish the fact that you earned my respect because you are who you are
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As for what started this "feud" between us, I honestly have no idea. I don't remember ever having a verbal argument or confrontation or anything with him that started this whole thing.
I just started noticing a pattern, that this one particular member by the name of "falsereality" kept following me into threads repeatedly and calling me a rapist and all sorts of things.
it's because you have bigger cajones than him
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He might just be mentally ill or something, he has to be
you two should hook up, you could make little crazy babies together
then you could kill and eat him, I know you've been dying to try some long pig
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Prisoner#1]
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By "friends" with them I don't mean that they are in my inner circle of friends that I love and trust. I mean that they are people that I've met along my travels who happen to harbor these worldviews. I don't get mad at them or try to block them when I see their posts on social media, I do ask questions however.
Also where the hell did I claim you can beat your kids into perfection? Who said anything about beating? And who said anything about perfection?
Does it matter what circle you wanna put them in?
You choose to associate with people and call them "friends" who devote their lives and catorgize themselves as rasict killers.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Prisoner#1]
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We would be friends IRL. I would totally be Facebook friends with you anyway.
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you two should hook up, you could make little crazy babies together
then you could kill and eat him, I know you've been dying to try some long pig
Isn't he like 50? Or am I confusing him for fee?
Wait, whatever happened to fee? Last I remember he was living in your barn, and we never really heard from him after that...
You killed him, didn't you?!?!
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: PumpJackTeX]
#23891503 - 12/03/16 05:59 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Does it matter what circle you wanna put them in?
You choose to associate with people and call them "friends" who devote their lives and catorgize themselves as rasict killers.
They aren't killers, at least to my knowledge.
You've probably been friends with the same types of people without even realizing it.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: PumpJackTeX]
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She didnt say anything about them being murderers
Won tons sound good right now, crab rangoon sounds better
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Won tons sound good right now, crab rangoon sounds better
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Repertoire89]
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As far as being friends with somebody from the opposing or enemy party goes, I tend to have a similar belief as this guy. Befriend somebody, no matter how vastly your religious or political views differ, and most people are level-headed enough to realize that it's stupid to attack somebody on a personal level over beliefs that ultimately don't really matter.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23891548 - 12/03/16 06:13 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, I don't believe it should be legal to hit children that age. Kids that age don't realize the real reason you're hitting them, and kids are also extremely sensitive and emotionally fragile, and something like that can completely destroy their entire world and traumatize that.
Teenagers on the other hand, are a little bit tougher, and they're more likely to look back at the incident and admit "Okay, I deserved that, I crossed a line."
Alot of people are the most emotionally fragile they will ever be as a teenager
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#23891570 - 12/03/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kids are alot smarter than you think. To be honest I never could deal with genuine praise as a kid (and still struggle at times as an adult) because of the trophy thing. I actually became really resentful n thought I was being patronized, that people only noticed me because they tried so hard to notice everyone. I wasn't worth noticing. It only happened because it was the right thing to do. I knew it was shallow and held no real significance.
I had pretty horrible self esteem. Maybe I would have felt differently if I didn't come from a situation of neglect at home but I lie to think kids know pretty well the difference between genuine accomplishment and obligated praise.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23891573 - 12/03/16 06:24 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You're ficking arwsome CookeCruntz.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23891594 - 12/03/16 06:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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there's nothing wrong with you beating your kids into perfection, just dont leave bruises because the state gets involved. maybe try waterboarding them occasionally
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23891611 - 12/03/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: I know, I've gained mad respect for you over the years because you arent a petty, spiteful little shit, sure, I pick at you relentlessly by calling you a progressive, a liberal and probably a fried wonton every now and then but it doesnt diminish the fact that you earned my respect because you are who you are
We would be friends IRL. I would totally be Facebook friends with you anyway.
I know who you are on facebook. you may even know who I am.
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you two should hook up, you could make little crazy babies together
then you could kill and eat him, I know you've been dying to try some long pig
Isn't he like 50? Or am I confusing him for fee?
fee is like 32 or something, maybe a very well preserved but slightly abused 50
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Wait, whatever happened to fee? Last I remember he was living in your barn, and we never really heard from him after that...
he moved and to dispel any rumors that could come of this:
1. he and I parted on great terms 2. I told him he could stay in the barn rent free, he refused that offer and I finally broke down and said $25/mo and paid me $200/mo 3. he did leave owing me anything 4. he is not buried in my back yard 5. we did not eat him 6. I am Sir Tokes A Lot
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probably but he's not buried in my back yard
please do not look in the front yard
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Prisoner#1]
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there's nothing wrong with you beating your kids into perfection, just dont leave bruises because the state gets involved. maybe try waterboarding them occasionally
As long as you don't waterboard in anger and give them 3 warnings so that they know the waterboarding is coming then why not?
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: PumpJackTeX]
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TexXx said: If your friend with rasict killers I underpants why you can thank someone who beat their kids into perfection ?
By "friends" with them I don't mean that they are in my inner circle of friends that I love and trust. I mean that they are people that I've met along my travels who happen to harbor these worldviews. I don't get mad at them or try to block them when I see their posts on social media, I do ask questions however.
Also where the hell did I claim you can beat your kids into perfection? Who said anything about beating? And who said anything about perfection?
Does it matter what circle you wanna put them in?
You choose to associate with people and call them "friends" who devote their lives and catorgize themselves as rasict killers.
you want to talk shit about her but you underpants why
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23891621 - 12/03/16 06:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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probably but he's not buried in my back yard
please do not look in the front yard
How did your wife and kids get along with him? Did your kids call him uncle fee?
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
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there's nothing wrong with you beating your kids into perfection, just dont leave bruises because the state gets involved. maybe try waterboarding them occasionally
As long as you don't waterboard in anger and give them 3 warnings so that they know the waterboarding is coming then why not? 
I usually give them the 3 warnings after the initial waterboarding and for the 3 warnings I usually waterboard them as a warning that they will be waterboarded
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#23891734 - 12/03/16 07:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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This thread I go grab a bite to eat and all the idiots came out. Glad pris is here to defend whooping a punks ass 
Dick
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#23891736 - 12/03/16 07:20 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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What? And you never sent me a friend request?!
I dont like to pester people... I may one day tho...
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probably but he's not buried in my back yard
please do not look in the front yard
How did your wife and kids get along with him? Did your kids call him uncle fee? 
I was divorced long before fee showed up
ok, now I guess it's time for a fee story or 3
the kids called fee "dirty hippie in the barn" even though fee came down daily for a shower and had permission to just walk in and make himself at home, we treated him like family which kinda surprised him because when people say "treat it like it's your place" they get kinda bent when yo do something wrong
story 1: I come home from work and fee says "is it OK if I let your kids drive my car around they yard? I probably should ask these things before I let them do it"
story 2: fee says "I taught your kids to use the chainsaw, I hope that's cool, I probably should have asked first though". I said "as long as they didnt lose anything important it's cool"
story 3: Fee says "It's chris birthday so I taught him how to build a potato cannon and we've been shooting your food across the yard all day" so I give the only response I can "just dont teach them to make bombs please"
the kids liked fee, he treated them with respect and had fun with them, he never put them in any danger and always had another adult to stuporvise his antics, he rarely drank and when he did he would flirt with my aunt who convinced him it was a good idea to get some liquor... she's not a drinker either
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
#23891741 - 12/03/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Dick
I was encouraging people to whoop your punk ass
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Dick
I was encouraging people to whoop your punk ass
Probably not a bad idea man. But I might like it  Dick
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
#23891816 - 12/03/16 07:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Only if there hot. I have many past resentments of hot teachers not slapping me.
I get to fuck them too right?
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Dirty hippie in the barn, LOL
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Enjoywho]
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Enjoywho said: Only if there hot. I have many past resentments of hot teachers not slapping me.
I get to fuck them too right?
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=qQjrfSvtg-c I don't know how to do the fancy hot link thingy....
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
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indeed. 
@ Prisoner- i like your Fee stories. they remind me of Christmas.
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#23891908 - 12/03/16 08:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Prisoner is like Santa Claus, and fee is his little helper; he's the gift that keeps on giving. potato guns? chainsaws? cars? a kids dream elf.
and fee is pretty short too, so it just makes sense that he's trained by Prisoner#1.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
#23891937 - 12/03/16 08:26 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I remember having a boy crush on a male teacher. He was that hot. Please slap me.
Authority figure that does have complete control of myself and my future. Good times I miss being in school. The ugly teachers were just mean. There ugly and gross and mean. My have my thoughts have changed. Well it plays into my day to day interactions all the time.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Enjoywho]
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It's pretty normal I feel like, for little kids to have crushes on the same sex, especially before puberty.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Enjoywho]
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i would have killed to be smacked by one of the teachers i had as a social worker.
she always flirted with me...once, this kid (silent kid spoke up) and told her at the lunch table that i wanted to hump her...which is true, i said so on the bus, so true story...and she looked at me like *smiley eyes* and i was like, "that's not true! he's talking out of his ass!"
i did not get scolded that day for saying ass.
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A.RichardTrickle said: This thread I go grab a bite to eat and all the idiots came out. Glad pris is here to defend whooping a punks ass 
Dick
I was encouraging people to whoop your punk ass
Probably not a bad idea man. But I might like it  Dick
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we had barn cat and after it died we had to get a barn hippie
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akira_akuma said: Prisoner is like Santa Claus, and fee is his little helper; he's the gift that keeps on giving. potato guns? chainsaws? cars? a kids dream elf.
and fee is pretty short too, so it just makes sense that he's trained by Prisoner#1.
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Enjoywho said: I remember having a boy crush on a male teacher. He was that hot. Please slap me.
It's pretty normal I feel like, for little kids to have crushes on the same sex, especially before puberty.
This was in high school. 
I didn't really know why or what was happening. Than I explored my sexuality. No I definitely like girls. Your pheromones are the best. Good times.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: akira_akuma]
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: akira_akuma]
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he needs a new wardrobe. he looks like a ladder midget.
Lucky. I'm 5'10" I'm tall but not 6 foot tall. I look down on most short people. Ahh how I wish I could've been a bit taller.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23892287 - 12/03/16 10:13 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Imagine if a teacher who was a woman and a minority slapped a white male student for "hate speech."
Now imagine if a white male teacher slapped a minority woman student for "hate speech."
Who would lose their job?
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Webster10]
#23892315 - 12/03/16 10:28 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Webster10 said: Imagine if a teacher who was a woman and a minority slapped a white male student for "hate speech."
Now imagine if a white male teacher slapped a minority woman student for "hate speech."
Who would lost their job?
I'd like to think both.... However, depending on district and region of our lovely republic.... We'd have unemployed liberals in the street for one and unemployed ethnic folks for the other. Buuuuut that's another conversation as one group burns local businesses and the other does not. But I'm playing devils advoDick
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Webster10] 2
#23892493 - 12/04/16 12:01 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Webster10 said: Imagine if a teacher who was a woman and a minority slapped a white male student for "hate speech."
Now imagine if a white male teacher slapped a minority woman student for "hate speech."
Who would lose their job?
Really? You're complaining because you feel you don't have the right to slap minority women around?
Why am I not surprised you of all people would bitch about something like that.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
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Webster10 said: Imagine if a teacher who was a woman and a minority slapped a white male student for "hate speech."
Now imagine if a white male teacher slapped a minority woman student for "hate speech."
Who would lose their job?
Really? You're complaining because you feel you don't have the right to slap minority women around?
Why am I not surprised you of all people would bitch about something like that.
Notice that's not what I said whatsoever
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Webster10] 1
#23892512 - 12/04/16 12:14 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Isn't that what you're insinuating, that you should have the right to slap minority women, in the name of "equal rights" or some BS
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23892526 - 12/04/16 12:21 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crystal G said: Isn't that what you're insinuating, that you should have the right to slap minority women, in the name of "equal rights" or some BS
I understand that my level of education is far beyond yours, and I am far smarter, but I'm not really a teacher. So stop trying to spin it as me saying I should have the right.
Let's all take note that the creator of the thread, "it should be legal for teachers to slap high school students" is now attempting to spin a hypothetical scenario, in which a teacher slaps a student, as a bad thing. She is also mocking my reasoning as BS, even though it's literally what she's proposing...
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Webster10]
#23892548 - 12/04/16 12:31 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You're apparently "so smart" yet you need somebody to explain to you why a grown man slapping a little girl simply over SPEECH is uncouth? There's seriously no hope for you.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Webster10] 1
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Webster10 said: Imagine if a teacher who was a woman and a minority slapped a white male student for "hate speech."
Now imagine if a white male teacher slapped a minority woman student for "hate speech."
Who would lose their job?
Both I'm quite certain of it. You're a 'tard, nobody thinks you're smart but you.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23892787 - 12/04/16 03:10 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Isn't Webster just a college student freshman? Where is this "high education" he's always bragging about?
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23892792 - 12/04/16 03:13 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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He doesn't even have a major AFAIK.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23892797 - 12/04/16 03:20 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You can't possibly brag about having a high education unless you have a PhD or MD or something. Practically everybody has a master's degree nowadays, even my yoga teacher has one.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23892852 - 12/04/16 03:58 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Webster10 said: Imagine if a teacher who was a woman and a minority slapped a white male student for "hate speech."
Now imagine if a white male teacher slapped a minority woman student for "hate speech."
Who would lose their job?
Really? You're complaining because you feel you don't have the right to slap minority women around?
Why am I not surprised you of all people would bitch about something like that.
Minority women are my favorite to be slapped by. White women are boring. It's all about the color.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23892913 - 12/04/16 05:18 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crystal G said: You're apparently "so smart" yet you need somebody to explain to you why a grown man slapping a little girl simply over SPEECH is uncouth? There's seriously no hope for you.
But in the hypothetical scenario, the grown man is a teacher, and the little girl is a student. So, it absolutely should be legal for him to slap her, right?
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Webster10]
#23892926 - 12/04/16 05:30 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nobody said anything about hitting someone based on speech. In the video the kid was being disrespectful and throwing things at the teacher. If a girl of the same age was doing the same thing, I'd say she should get slapped.
It's got to be a last straw thing, next just kick them out of school and let them go fuck off on their own time.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23892930 - 12/04/16 05:33 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey man, I'm just going by what the title suggests. I mean, it's a horrible and moronic thing to suggest, I agree. But nonetheless, it is indeed what crystal is proposing
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Webster10] 1
#23892938 - 12/04/16 05:40 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You didn't even say anything really. You proposed a hypothetical situation, then a rhetorical question like that is making a valid point. Your debate game is weak as fuck.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23892943 - 12/04/16 05:44 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You being unable to realize the point im making doesn't mean my debate game is weak. It's means your comprehension skills are shitty. Do you even know what a rhetorical question is? Cause the question I asked wasn't one
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Webster10]
#23892946 - 12/04/16 05:48 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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In the sense I meant it a question that isn't soliciting information but attempting to make a point.
You really need to pay more attention is school.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23892947 - 12/04/16 05:49 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: In the sense I meant it a question that isn't soliciting information but attempting to make a point.
You really need to pay more attention is school.
Nope. I was genuinely asking you for your honest answer.
You need to pay more attention when you read
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Webster10]
#23892948 - 12/04/16 05:51 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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So you didn't make a valid point then? That's what I thought.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23892953 - 12/04/16 05:59 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you had answered the question, it would have proven my point. You do realize that you can use a question to make a point without the question being rhetorical, right?
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Webster10]
#23892965 - 12/04/16 06:08 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I did answer it. I said both would likely be fired.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Webster10]
#23892966 - 12/04/16 06:09 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crystal G said: You're apparently "so smart" yet you need somebody to explain to you why a grown man slapping a little girl simply over SPEECH is uncouth? There's seriously no hope for you.
But in the hypothetical scenario, the grown man is a teacher, and the little girl is a student. So, it absolutely should be legal for him to slap her, right?
^^ this is the question I'm talking about. You replied but didn't answer.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Webster10] 1
#23892970 - 12/04/16 06:16 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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So your argument is that it would be wrong for a teacher to slap a student because in some cases this would be inappropriate?
It should be legal in situations that warrant it. There is no reason why someone should tolerate behavior like what is depicted in the video. There are some people who do not respond to positive reinforcement and need to be shown their place. Personally I would rather get slapped once or twice by a teacher than get kicked out of class should my behavior warrant it.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: moonrockmushy] 1
#23892973 - 12/04/16 06:20 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes,that actually is my argument. Good job. Not only in some cases would it be inappropriate, but it'd be impossible to define the exact criteria that warrants a slap. The idea is literally just insane though. I'm not even sure why I'm concerning myself with something so dumb.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Webster10]
#23892984 - 12/04/16 06:27 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well for one you sure could use the practice in persuasive writing. Corporal punishment was and still is a reality for most of the world's students. It's not actually that absurd. When I look at students coming out of school into the workplace, and how they are lacking in essential character, I see it as an injustice to them that they were never taught respect and discipline properly.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23892985 - 12/04/16 06:29 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Are you suggesting that teachers being physically violent to their students would somehow make them better workers?
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23892987 - 12/04/16 06:33 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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That is the first half decent point you made, about the difficulty in determining the line between justified and non-justified slaps. Especially on a forum where most of your audience won't stick with you for long, it pays to cut to the heart of your argument right off the bat and save the rhetoric for when your points are challenged.
You could say the same thing about expulsion from school though, which I think is more traumatic and damaging to any student.
Not just better workers, better people. It's not that everyone needs to get slapped, but for the ones that do it is only harming them to allow them to think that they're above everyone else and that disrupting class to have fun is ok.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23892994 - 12/04/16 06:42 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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No, expulsion from school and getting slapped by your teacher are two totally different things. Getting slapped would be a physically painful and embarrassing experience. The fact that it'd happen in the moment, in front of an entire class of your peers makes it even worse. Expulsion usually comes after multiple other correctional options have been explored already, it's not sudden, it's not physically hurtful and it doesn't happen directly in front of a class room full of other kids.
Look, the kids that act like dip shits in class are acting like that because they weren't raised right. Their parents didn't teach them better. It's not an educators job to slap the child into line behaviorally speaking. The teacher is there to educate. If they're being disrespectful, they could politely ask them to leave for the rest of class or have an administrator escort them out. This whole notion that teachers should have complete control over their students is bullshit. Teachers are there to educate. Not to control, command, dictate, physically hurt or embarrass you. That's what your parents are for.
What's your opinion of parents giving their children spankings?
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Webster10]
#23892998 - 12/04/16 06:44 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think there is no way to draw the line between a sexual spanking and a punitive one. I'm for waterboarding.
Also the ass whopping I would get for getting expelled would have made me wish I could have had someone slap me in the face before things went that far, and I can think of a greater embarrassment for a student.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23893001 - 12/04/16 06:49 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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So, the punishment already in place(expulsion), in your opinion, would be WORSE than getting slapped in the face by the teacher? If that's true, then why would slapping, which according to your testimony is a milder disciplinary action than expulsion, have any effect on people's overall "merit?"
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Webster10]
#23893007 - 12/04/16 06:56 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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For the same reason that "a slap in the face" gets used as a metaphor for a sudden awakening experience that allows one to see things in a new way.
For me this makes the most sense:
Strike one: verbal reprimand Strike two: slap or other corporal means of discipline Strike three: removal from classroom
I think that kids are too often coddled these days, which is part of the reason why entitlement is becoming such a problem among the youth.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23893019 - 12/04/16 07:07 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I agree that kids are too often coddled. You should see all of the liberal pussies I go to school with. But again, a teacher isn't the person that should be doling out that sort of punishment. If anything, the kid should get kicked out, and the teacher should call his/her parents later and explain why their child's actions are hindering every other students education and ask them to try to correct the problem before home before they have to get more involved. A teacher is supposed to be an educator, not a dictator.
I just know that if I had children, I sure as hell would never let another adult lay hands on them in an attempt to hurt them.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Webster10]
#23893638 - 12/04/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Webster10 said: Yes,that actually is my argument. Good job. Not only in some cases would it be inappropriate, but it'd be impossible to define the exact criteria that warrants a slap. The idea is literally just insane though. I'm not even sure why I'm concerning myself with something so dumb.
So what? What a weak argument. Should we also get rid of expulsion and suspension and detention too, because it's impossible to define the "exact criteria" that warrants these things? It's impossible to define "exact criteria" because we're talking about human behavior, not facts and spreadsheets.
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The whole thing about it is, kids like that act out in class because they think and know they can get away with it. The point isn't to hurt them, it's to get rebellious teenagers in line.
Let me guess, you would be the type that defends your kids when called into a parent-teacher conference meeting. Maybe you'd be the type to defend them even while they're sitting in jail.
As for my personal policy on Webster's question, the reason I thought it was a stupid question is because I do not believe there should be mixed-gender hitting in corporal punishment. The main reason is because psychologically it confuses underdeveloped girls and boys, and they might see an abusive partner as some form of love in the future.
Edit: this doesn't mean that girls are immune from getting slapped, just that they should be slapped by women.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
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I do not believe there should be mixed-gender hitting in corporal punishment. The main reason is because psychologically it confuses underdeveloped girls and boys, and they might see an abusive partner as some form of love in the future.
Edit: this doesn't mean that girls are immune from getting slapped, just that they should be slapped by women.
But what if some of the kids are gay?
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23893719 - 12/04/16 12:24 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crystal G said: You're apparently "so smart" yet you need somebody to explain to you why a grown man slapping a little girl simply over SPEECH is uncouth? There's seriously no hope for you.
but it's OK for a grown woman to slap a little boy
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Prisoner#1]
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I don't recall her saying that, unless you consider high school students to be little children.
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Eminence said: But what if some of the kids are gay?
That's always something to consider, I always often wondered about this myself when contemplating why the two sexes were separated in bathrooms. "What if they're gay," well that's a good point. But the school board really can't ask about a student's sexual orientation, so it should therefore remain that way, unless a student comes forward and says they're homosexual and therefore they would prefer to be physically reprimanded by the opposite sex, which I really can't see happening.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23894212 - 12/04/16 03:14 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Naw people should be able to smack teenagers regardless of gender. It's not a sexual act, nor is going to the bathroom. If people got hit more we probably wouldn't need to segregate bathrooms by gender.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: moonrockmushy] 1
#23894217 - 12/04/16 03:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Webster10 said: Imagine if a teacher who was a woman and a minority slapped a white male student for "hate speech."
Now imagine if a white male teacher slapped a minority woman student for "hate speech."
Who would lose their job?
Both I'm quite certain of it. You're a 'tard, nobody thinks you're smart but you.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23894219 - 12/04/16 03:20 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't think many teachers these days actually want to hit their students. They don't want to do any of that parenting shit. Physical contact is too intimate. Even violence.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#23894240 - 12/04/16 03:26 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I mean realistically that's true, and it's just reality that there is no way to implement this and not have only sadists take advantage of it, but those kids deserve to get smacked is the main point here.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23894247 - 12/04/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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We don't need corporeal punishment we need to find black people who are willing to teach black kids and let them do it however the teachers and grandmothers see fit. White liberals need to stay the fuck out of it. We try to educate poor black kids like we do rich white kids and it doesn't work.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#23894251 - 12/04/16 03:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hmm, that's interesting. So you think black people might require different learning methods? Like they might require more hands-on activities instead of power point presentations or something? That's an interesting theory.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23894256 - 12/04/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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No that's racist segregationist bullshit. There are black teachers, and no evidence they have any more success with black students.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Crystal G]
#23894265 - 12/04/16 03:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Shit. I'm talking about ghetto blacks here. They need someone who can get twice as ghetto right back in their fucking faces. They don't need hands on shit. They need to learn how to shut the fuck up and read and work math problems. And shut their fucking mouths.
I think the little local community should decide how it goes.
These black grandmothers don't want their kids being "taught" by some feel good white liberal who can't control the class.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23894271 - 12/04/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: No that's racist segregationist bullshit. There are black teachers, and no evidence they have any more success with black students.
That's because they have to follow rules made up by either rich black lawyers at the Southern Poverty Law Center, NAACP, or normal white liberals.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#23894274 - 12/04/16 03:43 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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TheFakeSunRa said: I don't think many teachers these days actually want to hit their students. They don't want to do any of that parenting shit. Physical contact is too intimate. Even violence.
True, but this reminds me of a gym teacher I had in high school..I was always late to class, and I had long hair at the time..so this genius started yelling at me and gave me the nickname "long haired late guy" and threatened that if I was late to class again "it's gonna be me and you in that backroom", referring to the storage closet. So I basically called him a faggot because the threat sounded kinda rapey and he started throwin shit at the wall and stormed out, probably to avoid hitting me.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#23894280 - 12/04/16 03:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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We had a program that send urban students to our suburban schools and I can only think of one or two that caused any trouble at all. Even those ones got a much better education then they would have otherwise, because our public schools had better resources per student, and none of them were "ghetto". Ghetto has nothing to do with where you're born or the color of your skin, it has to do with the poverty placed on you by society.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: Eminence]
#23894283 - 12/04/16 03:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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TheFakeSunRa said: I don't think many teachers these days actually want to hit their students. They don't want to do any of that parenting shit. Physical contact is too intimate. Even violence.
True, but this reminds me of a gym teacher I had in high school..I was always late to class, and I had long hair at the time..so this genius started yelling at me and gave me the nickname "long haired late guy" and threatened that if I was late to class again "it's gonna be me and you in that backroom", referring to the storage closet. So I basically called him a faggot because the threat sounded kinda rapey and he started throwin shit at the wall and stormed out, probably to avoid hitting me. 
Well if he's still alive there's a 100% chance he's a depressed fucked alcoholic.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23894299 - 12/04/16 03:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: We had a program that send urban students to our suburban schools and I can only think of one or two that caused any trouble at all. Even those ones got a much better education then they would have otherwise, because our public schools had better resources per student, and none of them were "ghetto". Ghetto has nothing to do with where you're born or the color of your skin, it has to do with the poverty placed on you by society.
Believe me, they're vetted. A couple referrals and they're out.
The reason why they don't have nice shit in ghetto schools is because the kid destroy everything. They get title one money.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#23894323 - 12/04/16 03:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Opportunities could be made for kids who didn't have parents who put themselves out there in terms of effort and resources to get into such a program, but I don't think it has anything to do with hiring ghetto teachers to teach ghetto youth.
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Re: It should be legal for teachers to slap high school students [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23894338 - 12/04/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The opportunities are there. They're squandered because the classrooms are brutally chaotic. They need some top dog ghetto bitch who can shut their asses up. Try growing up in Atlanta. You'd fucking see.
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