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A new TEk in the making (grow log to progress to full tek)
    #23889305 - 12/02/16 11:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

So I'm working on my first home project. My own that is. I have helped and aided two other mycology projects before this and have been applying what I learned there and here to make for a cultivation masterpiece.. (I hope)

Long story short I'm going to work up a large fishtank as an automatic grow chamber (PF cakes for success rate) and do bulk on the side also in automated environment down the line. I'm doing PFs in large shotgun for the moment. Plan on keeping a master cake to be birthed from MS every grow to ensure longevity.


Large aquarium
1HEPA  air filtration system
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Multiple other things but have everything to do bulk (WBS + Qt jars + Tubs)







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Re: A new TEk in the making (grow log to progress to full tek) [Re: DMT]
    #23889318 - 12/02/16 11:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Long story short I'm going to work up a large fishtank as an automatic grow




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Re: A new TEk in the making (grow log to progress to full tek) [Re: mushboy]
    #23889399 - 12/02/16 11:41 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

SGFC ten times more automated then this


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Re: A new TEk in the making (grow log to progress to full tek) [Re: DMT]
    #23889403 - 12/02/16 11:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

My friend a HEPA air filtration system is overkill.


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Re: A new TEk in the making (grow log to progress to full tek) [Re: PsychedelicLion]
    #23889414 - 12/02/16 11:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Stick to SGFC
Mushrooms do not require hepa filtered air during fruiting stage.
They require a colonized substrate, humidity, Fresh Air Exchange, evaporation from substrate surfaces.
All of these are accomplished with a proper SGFC.
No need to reinvent the wheel.
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Re: A new TEk in the making (grow log to progress to full tek) [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23889417 - 12/02/16 11:53 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Much good advice here :rockon:


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Re: A new TEk in the making (grow log to progress to full tek) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23889419 - 12/02/16 11:55 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

It helps to know what mushrooms want from experience before trying to design a fruiting chamber.


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Re: A new TEk in the making (grow log to progress to full tek) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23889467 - 12/03/16 12:36 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I was beginning to wonder when I'd see another wacky fruiting chamber thread


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Re: A new TEk in the making (grow log to progress to full tek) [Re: Dactylium]
    #23889552 - 12/03/16 02:03 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Here at the shroomery, we only welcome the idea of large scale automation:datass:


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Re: A new TEk in the making (grow log to progress to full tek) [Re: liloldme]
    #23889906 - 12/03/16 08:25 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

As shia  would say JUST DO IT!!


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Re: A new TEk in the making (grow log to progress to full tek) [Re: liloldme]
    #23889911 - 12/03/16 08:27 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I think the problem forms because noobs don't realize the SGFC is more automated than automated setup. They get worried about having to mist and fan as if that's a hassle. If you shit in your house once a day and can brush your teeth you can handle a SGFC. You can leave it completely alone for days. But if you're home mist a few times(if needed)
That alone is less work than filling a humidifier lol


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Re: A new TEk in the making (grow log to progress to full tek) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23889923 - 12/03/16 08:33 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I see a bottle of hydrogen peroxide there, fish tank fc peroxide hmm its gonna be one of those threads


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Re: A new TEk in the making (grow log to progress to full tek) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23889932 - 12/03/16 08:38 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I think the problem forms because noobs don't realize the SGFC is more automated than automated setup. They get worried about having to mist and fan as if that's a hassle. If you shit in your house once a day and can brush your teeth you can handle a SGFC. You can leave it completely alone for days. But if you're home mist a few times(if needed)
That alone is less work than filling a humidifier lol




Yep. Also if you truly need set it and abandon it for a week or two nothing beats a mono. No way a humidifier can run that long unattended. There are very few scenarios where an automated system is less work than a passive one.


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Re: A new TEk in the making (grow log to progress to full tek) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23894068 - 12/04/16 02:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Large scale automation. Exactly. Sorry about the brevity of original post. Lucy is quite a distracting girl. She had my head all over. Anyway, the humidifier and HEPA filtration are for a room. One I plan on covering in plastic corner to corner to make the entire room the fruiting chamber. It's a loongg closet with a shelf built in that I plan on having a decontam room in the opening. (Because I'm anal as fuck that's why) I'm attaching the measurements of the room I took to this post. The front area past the door will have a small table with decontam materials. Immediately to the right double layers of overlapping plastic to keep the clean/moist in. Essentially I want the room its self to be the fruiting chamber. Any colonised substrate you bring in should grow. The air is sterile so with proper HEPA filtration mask and tyvek suits one should be able to work freely and diligently. Each square represents a half foot. I have a monster aquarium I plan on littering with PF's and have plenty of room for some other tubs for bulk.

BTW just realized how hard I failed at initial explanation of plan. Considering how close I am to having all the materials needed and the amount of time and money I've spent stockpiling resources, I think it's safe to say I got a little excited and shot my wad whilst distracted. At this point I am asking tips from others on how to make this work. Yes I am aware of the problem of consistent moisture on plastic and am currently working with someone on a system to catch the drainage and run it off back into the humidifier which (if it does what it says it does) will re-sterilize the liquid. Meaning I don't have to add water as often



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Re: A new TEk in the making (grow log to progress to full tek) [Re: DMT]
    #23895655 - 12/05/16 12:25 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Cool idea it is basically a huge greenhouse FC. You can have 95% humidity without too much water condensation if you keep air flowing in the room.


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Re: A new TEk in the making (grow log to progress to full tek) [Re: PsychedelicLion]
    #23895798 - 12/05/16 02:32 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

You should go to edibles form and ask those guys about there set ups. You seem if your that anal about building a room that they are your new best freinds. Also i see cakes in your picture. Dont waste the effort of the 8 feet by 3 feet room you can with math if you stack shelves of the cakes every 18ixhs in height and have normal sealing with walking and loading/ picking 836 cakes. Screw that. Man up to grains and trays


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Re: A new TEk in the making (grow log to progress to full tek) [Re: tump]
    #23895826 - 12/05/16 03:08 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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You should go to edibles form and ask those guys about there set ups. You seem if your that anal about building a room that they are your new best freinds. Also i see cakes in your picture. Dont waste the effort of the 8 feet by 3 feet room you can with math if you stack shelves of the cakes every 18ixhs in height and have normal sealing with walking and loading/ picking 836 cakes. Screw that. Man up to grains and trays



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Re: A new TEk in the making (grow log to progress to full tek) [Re: tump] * 1
    #23895912 - 12/05/16 05:53 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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You should go to edibles form and ask those guys about there set ups. You seem if your that anal about building a room that they are your new best freinds. Also i see cakes in your picture. Dont waste the effort of the 8 feet by 3 feet room you can with math if you stack shelves of the cakes every 18ixhs in height and have normal sealing with walking and loading/ picking 836 cakes. Screw that. Man up to grains and trays




Probably the most coherent thing tump has ever posted.


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Re: A new TEk in the making (grow log to progress to full tek) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23895925 - 12/05/16 06:07 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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The air is sterile so with proper HEPA filtration mask and tyvek suits one should be able to work freely and diligently




the best way to work freely would be to not filter ur fruiting room air, and not worry about tyvek suits. clean spawn and fresh air can help with this

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to catch the drainage and run it off back into the humidifier which (if it does what it says it does) will re-sterilize the liquid. Meaning I don't have to add water as often




to collect then re-sterilize condensate which is then piped back into a tank for a humidifier is overkill and literally a TEK unto itself.  thats the kinda stuff bill gates does in 3rd world countries

definitely learn agar and grains and do bucket TEK and monotubs for a while before attempting automated set ups


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Re: A new TEk in the making (grow log to progress to full tek) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23895928 - 12/05/16 06:11 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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You should go to edibles form and ask those guys about there set ups. You seem if your that anal about building a room that they are your new best freinds. Also i see cakes in your picture. Dont waste the effort of the 8 feet by 3 feet room you can with math if you stack shelves of the cakes every 18ixhs in height and have normal sealing with walking and loading/ picking 836 cakes. Screw that. Man up to grains and trays




Probably the most coherent thing tump has ever posted.




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Re: A new TEk in the making (grow log to progress to full tek) [Re: blindingleaf]
    #23895935 - 12/05/16 06:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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definitely learn agar and grains and do bucket TEK and monotubs for a while before attempting automated set ups




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Re: A new TEk in the making (grow log to progress to full tek) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23895977 - 12/05/16 06:43 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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You should go to edibles form and ask those guys about there set ups. You seem if your that anal about building a room that they are your new best freinds. Also i see cakes in your picture. Dont waste the effort of the 8 feet by 3 feet room you can with math if you stack shelves of the cakes every 18ixhs in height and have normal sealing with walking and loading/ picking 836 cakes. Screw that. Man up to grains and trays



Probably the most coherent thing tump has ever posted.



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Re: A new TEk in the making (grow log to progress to full tek) [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23898783 - 12/06/16 01:08 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I like the grow room dry heat pasteurization method. They heat the whole room up to 160F for an entire day with a forced air propane heater it's a neat way to cook off a couple thousand pounds of substrate at once with little effort.
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Re: A new TEk in the making (grow log to progress to full tek) [Re: liloldme]
    #23898815 - 12/06/16 01:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Great info liloldme but still probaby not need for him yet. Besides is that not the same as oven pasteurization


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