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I can't trip anymore
    #23888989 - 12/02/16 09:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

What.  The.  Fuck.

Trip History...

1998-2003:  Tripped on shrooms approx. 10 times and on LSD 5 times...it never disappointed and was never underwhelming. 

2014-2015:  I got back into psychs with some truffles in Amsterdam.  I had a fucking blast and immediately asked myself "why the fuck did you stop taking psychedelics?"

I decided to grow my own shrooms with a lot of help from this community.  Over the next 1.5 years I would take shrooms, on average, about 2 times a month.  Every now and again those trips wouldn't live up to what I expected the dosage to deliver, but for the most part, I was pleased with the results.  And this is when the magic ended.  I haven't had a proper shroom trip since October 2015...I then took L for the first time in over a decade in November 2015

2016:  So far this year I have taken LSD on roughly 8-10 occasions.  It has delivered one-fucking-hundred percent.  I've taken shrooms around 5 times this year and the best results I got was a slightly weird headspace and super minor visuals.  I took a dosage as high as 5g once and it didn't do shit. 

In the last 2 months I've made mescaline on 2 occasions.  Once using a brew over the stove and in the next batch I used an alcohol extract.  On the tea brew, I got a pretty decent body buzz off of 24" of bridgesii but it was a very underwhelming experience.  Then I took almost 48" on the next trip and nothing happened...so later that day I decided to take some L.

So what's happening here?  My gut tells me it's the L.  The only issue I have with this theory is that I've given LSD a break for as long as 2 months thinking it would "reset" things that didn't happen..I tried shrooms and once again, it didn't deliver.

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Re: I can't trip anymore [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #23889053 - 12/02/16 09:23 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Underdosed tabs? I had some really really good LSD directly from the guy who laid it, 150ug. Took it once a week for like 3 months straight, never failed to disappoint. Sometimes I took two, sometimes one. It was always great.


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Re: I can't trip anymore [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #23889057 - 12/02/16 09:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Tolerance, plain and simple. This is why we always tell people not to use too often. You lost the magic. You need to take a good and proper tolerance break of a year or more to get your effects back.


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Re: I can't trip anymore [Re: nooneman]
    #23889065 - 12/02/16 09:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

1 year in nature everything goes through its seasonal changes...luckily that includes you.

just 1 thing is off limits for a time being is how i would think about it.


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Re: I can't trip anymore [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #23889071 - 12/02/16 09:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Maybe the strain of mushroom you're working with degraded so their potency is low. Or have you also failed to trip on others' or wild mushrooms?


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Re: I can't trip anymore [Re: DavidReishi]
    #23889082 - 12/02/16 09:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

No, this is classic using too often and losing the magic. It's a well known and understood thing. Even Shulgin talks about it.


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Re: I can't trip anymore [Re: nooneman]
    #23889108 - 12/02/16 09:38 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

yep losing the magic, take a long break and then dose what you expect to be a good ride.


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Re: I can't trip anymore [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23889120 - 12/02/16 09:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

The Blind Ass said:
1 year in nature everything goes through its seasonal changes...luckily that includes you.

just 1 thing is off limits for a time being is how i would think about it.




That's an interesting way of looking at it.  Going a year with no trip sounds fucking terrible though...I just look forward to them so damn much.

Do you think I would need to abstain from DMT too in order to reset?


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Re: I can't trip anymore [Re: nooneman]
    #23889150 - 12/02/16 09:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I thought 'losing the magic' meant that tripping's become Ho-Hum, not that you get no effects. It doesn't sound like he was using 'em all that much.


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Re: I can't trip anymore [Re: DavidReishi]
    #23889184 - 12/02/16 10:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

a year off sounds about right if going a year without sounds fucking terrible


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Re: I can't trip anymore [Re: LuzaW]
    #23889221 - 12/02/16 10:24 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I noticed that tripping every week, or every 2 weeks since spring that my tolerance has went up. Did not trip at all on shrooms during that time. Gave myself 2 weeks, and took 7G. It felt like a threshold dose, minor body high, could be weak shrooms.

Ive waited 3-4 weeks between trips and tolerance was still there a wee bit.


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Re: I can't trip anymore [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #23889442 - 12/03/16 12:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

2 months doesn't seem like a very long break lol.


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Re: I can't trip anymore [Re: Plazmotech]
    #23889451 - 12/03/16 12:23 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Plazmotech said:
Underdosed tabs? I had some really really good LSD directly from the guy who laid it, 150ug. Took it once a week for like 3 months straight, never failed to disappoint. Sometimes I took two, sometimes one. It was always great.



What kind of crystal was it???
You totally scored.
He told you he laid doses aye?  People have big balls nowadays for sure, that's a bunch of jail time.
Do you know how het set it down to be sure it was evenly dosed without lab gear?
I am very interested in this.


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Re: I can't trip anymore [Re: nooneman]
    #23889945 - 12/03/16 08:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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nooneman said:
No, this is classic using too often and losing the magic. It's a well known and understood thing. Even Shulgin talks about it.





Shulgin was referring to MDMA, which *does* lose the magic.

Not tripping from taking psychedelics would be due to lack of potency or short term tolerance.
I've never noticed long term tolerance being a thing personally, I'm not saying it couldn't be either but this does sound more like a case of weak shrooms, since L was working the same.


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Re: I can't trip anymore [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23890266 - 12/03/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Over DNM. This particular vendor also sold crystal which is why I assumed he laid it himself. It was the best acid I've ever had in my entire life


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Re: I can't trip anymore [Re: Trypto-Fan]
    #23890299 - 12/03/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

A.RichardTrickle said:
What kind of crystal was it???
You totally scored.
He told you he laid doses aye?  People have big balls nowadays for sure, that's a bunch of jail time.
Do you know how het set it down to be sure it was evenly dosed without lab gear?
I am very interested in this.




I used to only take LSD. Nothing compared to LSD trips to me, but I'm off it for now as the 12-16 hour trips were burning me out as I used to take it 3 or 4 times a month.

It's really easy to get a hold of needlepoint LSD if your willing the use darknet markets. Needlepoint tabs never failed to amaze me in terms of strength.


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Re: I can't trip anymore [Re: Wulver]
    #23890667 - 12/03/16 01:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Just to be clear guys, I've never been disappointed with the LSD trips.  They deliver every time.  I'm realizing that my original post up there might not have been very clear with that.

Where I'm having issues is with the shrooms and with mescaline...I just simply don't trip from them anymore and I've taken some pretty massive doses.


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Re: I can't trip anymore [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #23890724 - 12/03/16 01:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

DustyBottoms said:
Quote:

The Blind Ass said:
1 year in nature everything goes through its seasonal changes...luckily that includes you.

just 1 thing is off limits for a time being is how i would think about it.




That's an interesting way of looking at it.  Going a year with no trip sounds fucking terrible though...I just look forward to them so damn much.

Do you think I would need to abstain from DMT too in order to reset?




DMT doesn't seem to mess with tolerance, smoked at least.
I've gone 6+ months now without anything besides occasional dmt.
After taking a really huge dose last year I haven't been able to have a trip like I used to not sure why. I'm taking a long break.
It's strange because there were 0 problems until that huge dose I did. I almost think because it was some what traumatic my mind blocked me from experiencing that for a while. 

After that trip I took huge doses of psys and hardly anything happened.
Like 35mg of 4-ho-mipt which should of floored me because 15mg of the same stuff did. Hardly did anything. I was sweaty with basically no visuals/headspace at all just body load.

After some time I did try again they seem to work somewhat but I've decided to just take a even longer break and right now I think I'm going on 7+ months.
It's not nearly as hard as it sounds + you can still smoke dmt although I haven't actually broken through in like a year I think.


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Re: I can't trip anymore [Re: LSDollar] * 1
    #23890947 - 12/03/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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mirraco said:
I noticed that tripping every week, or every 2 weeks since spring that my tolerance has went up. Did not trip at all on shrooms during that time. Gave myself 2 weeks, and took 7G. It felt like a threshold dose, minor body high, could be weak shrooms.

Ive waited 3-4 weeks between trips and tolerance was still there a wee bit.





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Re: I can't trip anymore [Re: Eggtimer]
    #23890952 - 12/03/16 03:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Eggtimer said:
Quote:

DustyBottoms said:
Quote:

The Blind Ass said:
1 year in nature everything goes through its seasonal changes...luckily that includes you.

just 1 thing is off limits for a time being is how i would think about it.




That's an interesting way of looking at it.  Going a year with no trip sounds fucking terrible though...I just look forward to them so damn much.

Do you think I would need to abstain from DMT too in order to reset?




DMT doesn't seem to mess with tolerance, smoked at least.
I've gone 6+ months now without anything besides occasional dmt.
After taking a really huge dose last year I haven't been able to have a trip like I used to not sure why. I'm taking a long break.
It's strange because there were 0 problems until that huge dose I did. I almost think because it was some what traumatic my mind blocked me from experiencing that for a while. 

After that trip I took huge doses of psys and hardly anything happened.
Like 35mg of 4-ho-mipt which should of floored me because 15mg of the same stuff did. Hardly did anything. I was sweaty with basically no visuals/headspace at all just body load.

After some time I did try again they seem to work somewhat but I've decided to just take a even longer break and right now I think I'm going on 7+ months.
It's not nearly as hard as it sounds + you can still smoke dmt although I haven't actually broken through in like a year I think.




And yours too...are those supposed to be emulated DMT breakthroughs?


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