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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23887155 - 12/02/16 10:32 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Huge amount of responsibility?

I'm sure you've evidence stacked to the ceiling on this count, because apparently, in this sub, the evidence needed to prove responsibility is monumental.

But yeah, youre right, liberals do hate the fact that the number of single parent households is on the rise.




Do they?  From the BLM's website- "We are committed to disrupting the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure"

http://blacklivesmatter.com/guiding-principles/

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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: qman] * 2
    #23887236 - 12/02/16 11:12 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

How qman of you to ignore the meat of my post and then introduce a red herring.


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: qman]
    #23887482 - 12/02/16 12:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Huge amount of responsibility?

I'm sure you've evidence stacked to the ceiling on this count, because apparently, in this sub, the evidence needed to prove responsibility is monumental.

But yeah, youre right, liberals do hate the fact that the number of single parent households is on the rise.




Do they?  From the BLM's website- "We are committed to disrupting the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure"

http://blacklivesmatter.com/guiding-principles/




Kind of ironic. Originally, the black family was as every bit as stable as white families. Today, the nuclear family is in utter display regardless of race or culture though, the black family is suffering from single mother victimhood more then other communities though the mess is everywhere. This problem doesn't discriminate.

South Park described it accurately; female empowerment means slut around until SMV tanks and now she is a victim and cannot get the ring lol

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Read through the megazillion words on class, income mobility, and poverty in the recent New York Times series “Class Matters” and you still won’t grasp two of the most basic truths on the subject: 1. entrenched, multigenerational poverty is largely black; and 2. it is intricately intertwined with the collapse of the nuclear family in the inner city.

http://www.city-journal.org/html/black-family-40-years-lies-12872.html





Is it at all ironic that the many so called interventions be it war on drugs or poverty, other government programs intended to help continue to fuck up more chit?


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: finalexplosion]
    #23888074 - 12/02/16 03:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Did I ever suggest I'm against having social safety nets for low incomes mothers?  No I didn't.





I suggesting there shouldn't be a safety net for single moms. There should be something for people not, women that can't keep their legs closed, and have bastard children from different men. Insert victim

Its great there are resources for people who are struggling. The free money parade is the problem and cause of our national debt. Mother of 3 who is a widow, her husband fought in the war deserves access to welfare. The woman getting three way gang banged while her multiple kids from different men are laying around in chit diapers doesn't deserve free money.

The system needs reform.




If you wish to hold such a callous attitude toward folks you deem 'unworthy', don't expect them to hold you in any greater regard. You will be earning your paycheck by day, and fighting tooth and nail to keep it by night. Eventually, you will be killed for it. You're not the biggest, nor the baddest, and the sinking tide you idealize will certainly lower all ships.


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: The Ecstatic] * 2
    #23888085 - 12/02/16 03:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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How qman of you to ignore the meat of my post and then introduce a red herring.




Qman's a cherry picker. Don't worry, Trump hates cherry pickers. He'll send them to Mexico.


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #23888125 - 12/02/16 04:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

America should become greater. but it won't be greater for people whom aren't idiots. it's still far from "great" for those whom aren't idiots.

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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: finalexplosion] * 2
    #23888217 - 12/02/16 04:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

love it when conservatives roadblock sex ed in schools for decades because 'if i cover my eyes you can't see me' and then complain about women having children out of wedlock.  did anyone with half a brain really think that if we don't teach kids about contraceptives that they wouldn't have sex?  reap what you sow, you backwards-thinking motherfuckers.

while we're at it, let's defund planned parenthood where low income women get free or reduced contraceptives--and stigmatize abortion and make it as difficult as possible for women to make this very hard health decision with a doctor--and then complain about increasing rates of unwed mothers.  again, reap what you sow and while you're at it keep your religion out of secular society.

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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23888261 - 12/02/16 05:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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approx 67,891,000 people on the system using $158,200,000,000 of federal funding each year not counting food stamps or unemployment. Lets say half abuse the system. We cut em all off to fix the system like you say.  Thats still just shy of 34 million people that rely on that money to be able to eat, have a roof over their head, etc




It shows up in this recent report from the Cato Institute, which argues that the federal government spends $668 billion dollars per year on 126 different welfare programs (spending by the state and local governments push that figure up to $1 trillion per year)

There is plenty we can do to curb abuse without just "doing away with the whole system" as you go on to opine

***Why is it always "all or nothing" with you people?





I'm not pushing the all or nothing attitude, quite the opposite. There should be compromise and intelligent discussion put into these areas of government. The welfare system needs serious reform, but finalexplosion seems to be of the mind of "just pull the plug". Not an answer.

I don't want to live in an eat or be eaten world, there is no need.

I have personal issue with Vets and their system of "help" set up for them, but that is simply my personal beliefs though, not what should be put forth for the masses.


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: nuentoter]
    #23888320 - 12/02/16 05:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Since the "Beginning of the War On Poverty" (which has been cut back most often than expanded




:facepalm:

"You're starving the children!":psycrankey:

Meanwhile, back in reality...



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You will be earning your paycheck by day, and fighting tooth and nail to keep it by night. Eventually, you will be killed for it.




Libs want a violent revolution,  bring it on :lol:


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23888670 - 12/02/16 07:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Libs want a violent revolution,  bring it on :lol:




Be careful what you wish for

For comparison to your welfare chart


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Crumist]
    #23888761 - 12/02/16 08:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Libs want a violent revolution,  bring it on :lol:




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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: hostileuniverse] * 2
    #23889531 - 12/03/16 01:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Baca and Guerra may switch their Electoral College votes to a candidate other than Trump (and seemingly Clinton) if such a candidate emerges, or they may not vote at all

Guerra, who is 19 years old, explained her decision at a Wednesday press conference.  “I’m only 19 and this is my first time being involved in politics, but I hope that my willingness to put my country before my party will show that my generation cares about all Americans,” Guerra said.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/happens-vote-switching-elector-december-19-101805256.html

how the fuck do we have some kid in charge of this shit anyway goddamn it I don't feel bad for not voting AT ALL


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: venetianblinds]
    #23889576 - 12/03/16 02:25 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: venetianblinds] * 2
    #23890209 - 12/03/16 10:45 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: Crumist]
    #23890704 - 12/03/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

That article seems to support the idea of an electoral college

Does this mean that if trump survives the electoral voting process, the left will recognize him as a legitimize president?


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23890800 - 12/03/16 02:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It is only an opinion piece:
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The views of Contributors are their own and are not the views of The Hill




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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: relic]
    #23891337 - 12/03/16 05:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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love it when conservatives roadblock sex ed in schools for decades because 'if i cover my eyes you can't see me' and then complain about women having children out of wedlock.  did anyone with half a brain really think that if we don't teach kids about contraceptives that they wouldn't have sex?  reap what you sow, you backwards-thinking motherfuckers.

while we're at it, let's defund planned parenthood where low income women get free or reduced contraceptives--and stigmatize abortion and make it as difficult as possible for women to make this very hard health decision with a doctor--and then complain about increasing rates of unwed mothers.  again, reap what you sow and while you're at it keep your religion out of secular society.




Let's simultaneously make virginity a source of humiliation for already hormonal teenage boys... Oh, better yet, let's make it a source of pride for girls to maintain it.

I'll crack a beer while I watch these fuckers hop from one foot to the next. It's god's plan.


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: venetianblinds] * 2
    #23891356 - 12/03/16 05:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Baca and Guerra may switch their Electoral College votes to a candidate other than Trump (and seemingly Clinton) if such a candidate emerges, or they may not vote at all

Guerra, who is 19 years old, explained her decision at a Wednesday press conference.  “I’m only 19 and this is my first time being involved in politics, but I hope that my willingness to put my country before my party will show that my generation cares about all Americans,” Guerra said.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/happens-vote-switching-elector-december-19-101805256.html

how the fuck do we have some kid in charge of this shit anyway goddamn it I don't feel bad for not voting AT ALL




Lmao! This antiquated system has got to go. Louisiana doesn't deserve equal say in presidential elections to California. I really do believe our elections should be decided by the popular vote. I don't say that because I wish Clinton had won either, because I don't. I don't give a rats ass one way or another.


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: relic]
    #23891693 - 12/03/16 07:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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love it when conservatives roadblock sex ed in schools for decades because 'if i cover my eyes you can't see me' and then complain about women having children out of wedlock.  did anyone with half a brain really think that if we don't teach kids about contraceptives that they wouldn't have sex?  reap what you sow, you backwards-thinking motherfuckers.

while we're at it, let's defund planned parenthood where low income women get free or reduced contraceptives--and stigmatize abortion and make it as difficult as possible for women to make this very hard health decision with a doctor--and then complain about increasing rates of unwed mothers.  again, reap what you sow and while you're at it keep your religion out of secular society.




Areas of higher IQ have less crime, less teen pregnancy and children out of wedlock. Higher IQ people go out, compete in the free market, and win or they learn. Lower IQ people want free money. The increase in welfare, in government reliance, and other programs by those of lower IQ has grown drastically since its first inception. These program initiatives began with "good intentions" but, they've caused more problems then it has fixes.


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Re: Impact of the Electoral College [Re: finalexplosion] * 1
    #23891743 - 12/03/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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love it when conservatives roadblock sex ed in schools for decades because 'if i cover my eyes you can't see me' and then complain about women having children out of wedlock.  did anyone with half a brain really think that if we don't teach kids about contraceptives that they wouldn't have sex?  reap what you sow, you backwards-thinking motherfuckers.

while we're at it, let's defund planned parenthood where low income women get free or reduced contraceptives--and stigmatize abortion and make it as difficult as possible for women to make this very hard health decision with a doctor--and then complain about increasing rates of unwed mothers.  again, reap what you sow and while you're at it keep your religion out of secular society.




Areas of higher IQ have less crime, less teen pregnancy and children out of wedlock. Higher IQ people go out, compete in the free market, and win or they learn. Lower IQ people want free money. The increase in welfare, in government reliance, and other programs by those of lower IQ has grown drastically since its first inception. These program initiatives began with "good intentions" but, they've caused more problems then it has fixes.




... Areas of higher IQ? Where are these areas? Who tested everyone's IQ in these areas? I've never heard of an 'area of higher IQ', but it would probably be Ashkenazi dominated, I guess... Hollywood?

Do you have any supporting evidence for these claims? I know that people with higher IQ's are more inclined toward pacifism, communal efforts, and generally have less children. I'm more curious about these "High IQ areas". Must be up North... less inbreeding (I'm joking).

Did you ever stop to think that affluence has a positive effect on IQ? People who come from families with money are exposed to far more stimuli, which encourages intellectual growth. Your IQ fluctuates throughout your life. If you don't use it, you lose it. If you aren't given the opportunity to use it in the first place... Affluent folks are also less likely to engage in criminal activity, because they don't need to commit crimes to take care of their families. They are less prone to mental illness, because they can afford treatment, and are not plagued with the stress and anxiety that consumes poverty stricken families trying to make ends meet. Stress kills.

Where is your evidence that lower IQ people want free money? Seriously, please provide evidence. There are millions upon millions of low-IQ Republicans who vote against their best interest (increased "welfare" programs) every election.

I don't see how safety net programs (Welfare programs) have 'caused more problems' than they fix. Here's an example:

Food stamps feed people, so that those starving people don't pick up a 12 gauge and raid your pantry. You pay a paltry sum (if anything at all), to afford yourself this luxury (of not being robbed by your starving neighbor).

We do this things so that we can maintain a civilized society. A society, unlike the "3rd world", in which we don't step outside our door every morning to violence, watching children, plagued with disease and starvation, dying in the streets before us, and simultaneously spreading disease.


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