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Quadman
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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: drake89]
#23971249 - 12/31/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 30 days ago) |
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Quadman said: There is a pex rated for 230° used for solar. Regular pex is rated for 180° it will handle more at low pressure but it shrinks the pipe.
I have been using some old pex scraps that's just cold water rated from my boiler to the steam shack. I think it's fine since there's no pressure. It will definetly not last forever tho, it's kind of brittle already. Copper is $$$
It's surprising how tough pex is. It might fool you. Always amazed me how it can freeze solid.
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MycoFlora
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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: liloldme]
#23971297 - 12/31/16 04:40 PM (7 years, 30 days ago) |
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Cool, good to know on the pex. I have high temp rated so I may use that if I go with the separate boiler.
Any takers or ideas on the lighting being the issue on slow pins?
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liloldme said: Well I did it MycoFlora, I ordered the AA75xz today can't wait 
Nice dude! I have not for one second regretted buying them. For instance, I'm about to head out on a date with the wife, but I have them on a timer that shuts off after 2.5 hours. Set and forget! Well not forget, vut you get the idea. Very excited for ya man. Holler if you need any tips on dialing it in. It took me a second.
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drake89
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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: MycoFlora]
#23971479 - 12/31/16 06:01 PM (7 years, 30 days ago) |
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Well I did build aN 8x12 ft steam shed for little more than the price of 2 75x's...not knocking them. You need one if you're making spawn I suppose.
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MycoFlora
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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: drake89]
#23971736 - 12/31/16 08:02 PM (7 years, 30 days ago) |
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All the props in the world for that steam shed. it is legendary.  do you still use it? when my funding come through here pretty soon I want to go with one of the bubbas barrel set ups ala Asheville fungi. How have those been working for you?
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MorePies
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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: drake89]
#23973321 - 01/01/17 03:23 PM (7 years, 29 days ago) |
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drake89 said: Well I did build aN 8x12 ft steam shed for little more than the price of 2 75x's...not knocking them. You need one if you're making spawn I suppose.
How did you insulate the darn thing?
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MycoFlora said: All the props in the world for that steam shed. it is legendary.  do you still use it? when my funding come through here pretty soon I want to go with one of the bubbas barrel set ups ala Asheville fungi. How have those been working for you?
What is this Asheville Fungi setup?!?1?
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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: MycoFlora]
#23973397 - 01/01/17 03:52 PM (7 years, 29 days ago) |
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Mind posting any pics of your sterilizer?
Sure, but really just see Gr0wers latest thread for the next level build. My weekly run is 10 10lb bags and 15 5lb bags, or 175lbs of sub. I could probably fit 3-5 more 5lb bags in there. I do 2 layers of 10lbs then the 5lbs on top. The thermocoupler probe gets sandwiched in the top layer of bags and once it hits temp, I run it for 11 hours. There were some mishaps for the first few runs, and Drake definitely talked me down from the throw too much money at a problem ledge, but now it's running pretty smooth with minimal tinkering required.

There she is in all her glory. I use 4 stones, 2 2x4s, and a cut up wire shelf to make my false bottom. It makes more sense to put the float directly across from the element as I have to be pretty precise in how I put the rocks in there to impact the float. No drain means it all comes out after every run and gets dumped on it's side.

The black is power, the red and silver are water lines. It's funny to me that this thing sits right next to my breaker box, but because I rent and it's old I am not messing with it. All the wires and hoses go into our laundry room through the window. I don't mind having the window cracked 24/7 because I live in Texas and it's 74 degrees out right now. I pick up power from the dryer outlet (designated 30amp breaker, 5000w 220v element draws about 23), and hot water from the washing machine. The insulation is 3/4" pink foam board, 2-3 cans of greatstuff, duct tape and string. My partner had a spare roll of this reflective bubble wrap to boot. I think it helps as a wind break, but I'm skeptical of the huge R value claims on the packaging.
The psi regulator I found on Amazon and I have the most confidence in my float valve when it's set to 5psi. The SS float came from Ebay. The PID, is an Auber with timer and alarm relays. The timer starts once it hits temp, and then pulls the relay, cutting power from the element, when it hits zero. An important safety note is that there is still power flowing to the element even though it's "off", so I make sure to unplug the thing when it's cooling.
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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: MorePies]
#23973465 - 01/01/17 04:26 PM (7 years, 29 days ago) |
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MycoFlora said: All the props in the world for that steam shed. it is legendary.  do you still use it? when my funding come through here pretty soon I want to go with one of the bubbas barrel set ups ala Asheville fungi. How have those been working for you?
Thanks! Yeah we are gonna be using it for a while unless a big contract falls in my lap. Got about a 1500 bag per week capacity , we do about half that now.
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drake89 said: Well I did build aN 8x12 ft steam shed for little more than the price of 2 75x's...not knocking them. You need one if you're making spawn I suppose.
How did you insulate the darn thing?
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MycoFlora said: All the props in the world for that steam shed. it is legendary.  do you still use it? when my funding come through here pretty soon I want to go with one of the bubbas barrel set ups ala Asheville fungi. How have those been working for you?
What is this Asheville Fungi setup?!?1?
I used foam board mostly. The AF setup is a professional version of the RR setup. Bubbas will make you one for about $2000 or so . But I sold mine to some guy in Ohio when we upgraded.
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MycoFlora
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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: drake89]
#23974523 - 01/01/17 10:51 PM (7 years, 29 days ago) |
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Morepies-thank you for posting that! It's always nice to see what others have concocted. She looks like she would get the job done.
The most functional set up I have ever seen for the cheap was chefs trough steamer. I liked that it was shallow, still could hold a ton of bags, and can roll straight into the lab. That's why I went with the trough design. I will definitely be putting a float valve in and if the small trough works I am going to go all out and get to large one. Think it holds something like 65 bags.
I catch myself wishing I had that steam shed, but I have too many stairs on my property to roll racks to and from the shed. One day maybe!
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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: MycoFlora]
#23977168 - 01/02/17 07:54 PM (7 years, 28 days ago) |
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You're livin' my dream man!
I hope to be at this level in my near future!
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Gr0wer
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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: RolledUhhp]
#23977486 - 01/02/17 10:15 PM (7 years, 28 days ago) |
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With those big funky shiitake, they are mutants. Pick em and normally the next flush will be normal. Probably from either too much supplements, mild contamination, or something up with your incubation period IME.
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MycoFlora
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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: Gr0wer]
#23977532 - 01/02/17 10:36 PM (7 years, 28 days ago) |
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RolledUhhp said: You're livin' my dream man!
I hope to be at this level in my near future!
good luck to you my friend!
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Gr0wer said: With those big funky shiitake, they are mutants. Pick em and normally the next flush will be normal. Probably from either too much supplements, mild contamination, or something up with your incubation period IME.
That's what is wracking my brain..5% bran, so that is super low, and 5% spawn, decently low. No sight of contams at any stage so far. I know for sure my incubation was cut short though.
Do you think the slowing of their growth could be light related in any way? I am only using natural sunlight I under 50% shadecloth. Just trying to trouble shoot at this point.
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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: MycoFlora]
#23986546 - 01/06/17 01:29 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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Update time.
So it's finally snowing here in memphis and it's been in the teens and twentys some nights, but the green house has been standing strong at a constant 55-60f. And despite the heaters dehumidifying effects I've been able to time the misters to perfectly keep up to keep it at 85-95% humidity at all times.



Between the heater and the double layer plastic it is very stable in there.
This second round of shiitake is working much better than the first. I birthed after 8 weeks to let them fully brown, slapped, shocked and let them pin I the bag for about 4-5 days and man what a difference.
 There are pins ALL over the blocks on the sides bottoms and tops it's crazy! Thank you for the tip drake! I think I may even go for a ten week incubation next round. Shiitake are definitely not for the impatient
On to my weekly issue. My kings have been sitting for about...5 or 6 weeks and doing nothing. There are hundreds of pale little dots that I believe are pins but they look a little off in color...not grey at all. They are uncased. I can't get my camera to focus as they are very very tiny. Does anyone have any king experience that they can share? do they normally take this long?
Hope everyone is well.
-Scott
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MorePies
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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: MycoFlora]
#23988957 - 01/07/17 09:42 AM (7 years, 23 days ago) |
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That's an awesome looking block dude! 5 or 6 weeks is a long time. It sounds like they aborted. Pins should be white, with light grey caps, tan stems is not a good thing to see. King oyster is part of my weekly production and I should have some better data over the next month. Pin formation is very strain dependent. Have you looked at Marty's King Oyster grow? It's an awesome read.
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MycoFlora
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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: MorePies]
#23997132 - 01/10/17 01:23 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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Yes I've read it a time or two, dude is a baller in the realm of kings! I think it must be a bad strain. Didn't pin past that point. It was some random KO that I got in a trade like 3 years ago. I just got kO1 plated out so I suppose I'll give it a try.
For now I just got my 3015 in today and I'm testing it out on my new cottonseed hull formula. It's roughly 50/40/10 and 60/30/10 csh/bran/wood pellets. Different %'s to test yield. Browns, elms, and 3015. They are tearing it up on these csh! I've never seen such quick colonization.


And just got a fresh truck load from the local gin.
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Quadman
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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: MycoFlora]
#23997379 - 01/10/17 06:16 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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That looks like whole cottonseed, is it?
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MycoFlora
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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: Quadman]
#23997932 - 01/10/17 11:31 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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No they are the hulls, but there is quite a bit of residual cotton fibers in there. Not the quality I am used to, but hey it was free! I can pick up every week and it's local so I'm going to give them a shot. I might try a higher % of wood pellets with these because they are so fluffy.
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liloldme
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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: MycoFlora]
#23998310 - 01/10/17 01:52 PM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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Score!!
Question, do you have any air space inbetween your 2 layers of plastic for the greenhouse? You have two layers of the clear plastic or are you counting the black one as well? Both layers on the outside of the hoops?
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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: liloldme]
#23998732 - 01/10/17 04:54 PM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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liloldme said: Score!!
Question, do you have any air space inbetween your 2 layers of plastic for the greenhouse? You have two layers of the clear plastic or are you counting the black one as well? Both layers on the outside of the hoops?
The black thing is 50% shade cloth. underneath that are two 6 mil uv treated layers of plastic and I have an inflation blower that sort of balloons a layer of air between them. And yes all on the outside of the hoops held down with wiggle wire. It has definitely helped with insulation, next step is to get some foam board for the side walls. There is a lot of heat loss there.
I would also like to add that this is not really 'best practice'. I really only get away with such little insulation because I am in zone 7b/8a. Anything below that and you would have a very difficult time with stable temperatures in a structure like this.
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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: MycoFlora]
#23998915 - 01/10/17 05:51 PM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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does the inflation blower get air that is already warmed up or is it closed loop for the most part so you're not losing most of the heat from the air gap between the two layers of plastic?
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Quadman
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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: liloldme]
#23998951 - 01/10/17 06:06 PM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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Unless you have a leak somewhere the air is static. Once it is up to pressure there shouldn't be much heat loss from the air pushing in. I had my blowers inside . You will get some condensation between the plastic layers.
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