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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: poponon]
    #23894544 - 12/04/16 05:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Wow, that's impressive dude and beyond any goals I'd set for myself.
Might I ask what you sell your oysters for, or would that be rude?


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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: TedTheHighlighter]
    #23895041 - 12/04/16 07:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Have you considered going to a drum steam sterilizer? Thats a lot of pressure cooker batches. Your making how many bags a week to grow 100lbs per week?


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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: Gr0wer]
    #23895136 - 12/04/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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TedTheHighlighter said:
Wow, that's impressive dude and beyond any goals I'd set for myself.
Might I ask what you sell your oysters for, or would that be rude?



Not rude at all. 8$/pound wholesale is the lowest I go. Retail is normally 16 per pound depending on the species and quantity. But it really depends on who I'm selling to. Some restaurants are used to much lower prices which is why I try to focus on fewer high end restaurants that will pay more instead of spreading myself too thin with a ton of small accounts.

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Have you considered going to a drum steam sterilizer? Thats a lot of pressure cooker batches. Your making how many bags a week to grow 100lbs per week?




Yes actually. I was going to use your design for the no pressure 24 hour steam. Was actually going to pm you soon with some questions about it. How many bags do you got per run? I know youve mentioned it before but I forget.
I am still dialing in the sawdust block production to reach the yields I want. I previously only used cotton seed hulls with lime/sodium percarbonate pasteurization.
That being said 100-120 should get me in that 100lb+ arena.
How many bags/lbs a week do you produce?


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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: MycoFlora]
    #23898581 - 12/05/16 10:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

That is a sweet setup, I hope to get there one of these days. Nice work and thanks for sharing!


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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: magicman1900]
    #23898597 - 12/05/16 10:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I do 38 bags a week and 55-75 lbs a week production. The new stainless drum should fit closer to 45 bags and the 85 gal drum should fit 60-75. That should push me over 100 lbs a week. If i go with an external steam generator using a keg it would bump my capacities up on each drum by about 8-10 bags.


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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: Gr0wer]
    #23899131 - 12/06/16 07:18 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Gr0wer said:
I do 38 bags a week and 55-75 lbs a week production. The new stainless drum should fit closer to 45 bags and the 85 gal drum should fit 60-75. That should push me over 100 lbs a week. If i go with an external steam generator using a keg it would bump my capacities up on each drum by about 8-10 bags.




What kind of weekly capacity can your grow room handle?

I'm leaning towards an external boiler for the setup I'm planning too. The extra bag capacity seems logical and it would be easy to add another sterilizer drum to a central boiler/steam unit if needed. Possibly even jumping it into my growhouse intake duct to offset heat/humidity woes for the winter time.

MycoFlora are you planning to switch over your oyster straw logs to sawdust blocks with the new rig, or will it be for shiitake production only?


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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: poofterFroth]
    #23899283 - 12/06/16 08:43 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Gr0wer said:
I do 38 bags a week and 55-75 lbs a week production. The new stainless drum should fit closer to 45 bags and the 85 gal drum should fit 60-75. That should push me over 100 lbs a week. If i go with an external steam generator using a keg it would bump my capacities up on each drum by about 8-10 bags.



how do you do 55-75 lbs from 38 blocks? or does that account for secondary flushes?
I am leaning towards your design because of the sheer simplicity.If you end up adding a boiler will it be under pressure or are you passively feeding it since your barrel will not be under pressure?
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I do 38 bags a week and 55-75 lbs a week production. The new stainless drum should fit closer to 45 bags and the 85 gal drum should fit 60-75. That should push me over 100 lbs a week. If i go with an external steam generator using a keg it would bump my capacities up on each drum by about 8-10 bags.




What kind of weekly capacity can your grow room handle?

I'm leaning towards an external boiler for the setup I'm planning too. The extra bag capacity seems logical and it would be easy to add another sterilizer drum to a central boiler/steam unit if needed. Possibly even jumping it into my growhouse intake duct to offset heat/humidity woes for the winter time.

MycoFlora are you planning to switch over your oyster straw logs to sawdust blocks with the new rig, or will it be for shiitake production only?



There is this awesome guy in Canada that does exactly what you're talking about. I think he has something like 8 55 falling drums hooked to two boilers. 0 psi for 18 hours I think. He uses propane though which I am not a fan of. Very costly.

Yes all production is on sawdust blocks only. Although I still have a lot of cottonseed hulls to run through so may experiment with that some.Bags seem to be more yield per square feet when supplemented so I just decided to switch over.I will really miss the ease of lime past. though.
For now it will be about a 70/30 oyster/shiitake split. that's pretty much all my incubation and grow room can handle. My grow room maxes out at about 800-1000 blocks and my incubation is about the same. Going for about two flush and done route. If need for production ever increases past thAt, I may just go the one and done route to keep rotations tighter.

How about yourself? What is your situation looking like?


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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: MycoFlora]
    #23899382 - 12/06/16 09:34 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I have enough capacity for 6 weeks in the grow chamber. I get two good flushes then some random straggler clusters. And yes i would feed the drum using no pressure if using a keg as a boiler. And i do just that with my new layout, vent hot steam into my garage to heat and humidify the grow.


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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: Gr0wer]
    #23900156 - 12/06/16 02:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Gr0wer said:
I have enough capacity for 6 weeks in the grow chamber. I get two good flushes then some random straggler clusters. And yes i would feed the drum using no pressure if using a keg as a boiler. And i do just that with my new layout, vent hot steam into my garage to heat and humidify the grow.



Can you make a video or post pics of this? Would be very interested in hearing more about it.
Are you using the new SS barrel to do this?


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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: MycoFlora]
    #23900865 - 12/06/16 06:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Just an update,
just put the first few shiitake blocks in.
Can't wait til my greenhouse inflation blower gets here it's so damn cold!


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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: MycoFlora]
    #23904646 - 12/07/16 06:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Very cool setup Mycoflora. I'm along for the ride.


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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: MycoFlora]
    #23907609 - 12/08/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I have enough capacity for 6 weeks in the grow chamber. I get two good flushes then some random straggler clusters. And yes i would feed the drum using no pressure if using a keg as a boiler. And i do just that with my new layout, vent hot steam into my garage to heat and humidify the grow.



Can you make a video or post pics of this? Would be very interested in hearing more about it.
Are you using the new SS barrel to do this?




Me too I'm really interesting to see that!


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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: MycoFlora]
    #23907868 - 12/08/16 05:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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There is this awesome guy in Canada that does exactly what you're talking about. I think he has something like 8 55 falling drums hooked to two boilers. 0 psi for 18 hours I think. He uses propane though which I am not a fan of. Very costly.



You talking about What The Fungus?


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Yes all production is on sawdust blocks only. Although I still have a lot of cottonseed hulls to run through so may experiment with that some.Bags seem to be more yield per square feet when supplemented so I just decided to switch over.I will really miss the ease of lime past. though.



Confused. You were lime pasteurizing what as your medium before, just cotton hulls?

Looking great, following!


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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: volvovr]
    #23908156 - 12/08/16 07:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I have enough capacity for 6 weeks in the grow chamber. I get two good flushes then some random straggler clusters. And yes i would feed the drum using no pressure if using a keg as a boiler. And i do just that with my new layout, vent hot steam into my garage to heat and humidify the grow.



Can you make a video or post pics of this? Would be very interested in hearing more about it.
Are you using the new SS barrel to do this?




Me too I'm really interesting to see that!




For now ill still be doing the float valve witb false bottoms. Especially with the 85 gal drum, its just too far of a reach to the bottom so having the false bottom makes it a bit more ergonomic. The external keg boiler would just complicate a simple system but you would gain a slight amount of capacity.


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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: SpeakSoftly]
    #23908432 - 12/08/16 08:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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MycoFlora said:
There is this awesome guy in Canada that does exactly what you're talking about. I think he has something like 8 55 falling drums hooked to two boilers. 0 psi for 18 hours I think. He uses propane though which I am not a fan of. Very costly.



You talking about What The Fungus?


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Yes all production is on sawdust blocks only. Although I still have a lot of cottonseed hulls to run through so may experiment with that some.Bags seem to be more yield per square feet when supplemented so I just decided to switch over.I will really miss the ease of lime past. though.



Confused. You were lime pasteurizing what as your medium before, just cotton hulls?

Looking great, following!




Yea! what the fungus!
great name haha.

Yes I used to use straw, but got really tired of chopping it with a weed whacker 55 gallon drum setup I made, so I switched soley to cotton seed hulls. 0 labor chopping and insane yields compared to straw. pasteurized with lime water at a ph  of like 13-14 and a cup of oxyclean (sodium percarbonate).
I switched over for a couple reasons..1. I am a one man operation and carrying around 100 lb logs every day of the week got old fast.
2. cotton seed hulls are more expensive per lb than fuel pellets.
3. Increased yields by top fruiting and more bags per square foot.

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Very cool setup Mycoflora. I'm along for the ride.



Thanks man. I love your sterilizer setup. Way beyond my electrical skills but I would love something similar one day.
Is it still working well for you?


Edited by MycoFlora (12/08/16 11:30 PM)


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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: MycoFlora]
    #23909816 - 12/09/16 11:10 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for sharing your setup, this looks like a nice operation. I'm getting hungry at the sight of that shiitake!


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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: MycoFlora]
    #23911221 - 12/09/16 06:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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SpeakSoftly said:
Very cool setup Mycoflora. I'm along for the ride.



Thanks man. I love your sterilizer setup. Way beyond my electrical skills but I would love something similar one day.
Is it still working well for you?




It is working very well. I do however want to switch to Stainless Steel barrels in the near future though. I have to replace the heating elements every once in a while due to rust.


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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: SpeakSoftly]
    #23911250 - 12/09/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Hey Mycoflora, I'm interested in your technique with the Cotton seed hulls as I just found a source for hulls here today. Do you add gypsum after doing the lime bath? Any other tips for being successful with CSH?

I'm running a batch in my pasteurizer right now, and going to mix straw, CSH, and about 10% alfalfa pellet supplements. Plan on inoculating with kings and elms.


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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: SpeakSoftly]
    #23911457 - 12/09/16 08:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Hey Mycoflora, I'm interested in your technique with the Cotton seed hulls as I just found a source for hulls here today. Do you add gypsum after doing the lime bath? Any other tips for being successful with CSH?

I'm running a batch in my pasteurizer right now, and going to mix straw, CSH, and about 10% alfalfa pellet supplements. Plan on inoculating with kings and elms.




sure!
All I did was get the water adjusted to 13-14ph (about 3-4 cups hydrated lime per 55 gallon load), which some may say is too high but I never had an issue, and mix in about a cup of oxyclean.
Let the bags soak over night and pull them the next morning.
Now I've never heat pasteurized CSH so you may have better luck steam drying them, but make sure you allow an ample amount of time to let them dry out a bit. Before I got a hold on this my batches were way too wet.

I think you'll have stellar success mixing with straw and the soy, but in my opinion I would ditch the heat pasteurization. Only for convenience sale. Truly the most easy and consistent method I've ever used. Plus, if you do batches everyday, you can just reuse that very same lime water. Not to mention its way cheaper thank propane.
I should also add I had pretty bad contams until I added the oxyclea
After that every batch was trouble free.


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Re: My Small Scale Mushroom Farm [Re: MycoFlora]
    #23912046 - 12/10/16 02:37 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

great thread!
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