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Consistently shitty come-ups
    #23887573 - 12/02/16 01:14 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I have had consistently shitty come-ups on the mushrooms I've cultivated myself. Before cultivating, I hadn't used mushrooms in a few years, for what its worth. While I love the feeling after the come up, the first hour or so seems full of anxiety, feeling like my skin and muscles are tight, and very scatterbrained. Does anyone else feel the same things consistently? After the first hour everything is always gravy tho


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Re: Consistently shitty come-ups [Re: no0bsawse]
    #23887604 - 12/02/16 01:23 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Up your dose :thumbup:


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Re: Consistently shitty come-ups [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #23887634 - 12/02/16 01:33 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, pretty common. Once you start getting the message or raising your dose, you won't remember, experience or care about come up anxiety anymore. Your intention of tripping will be different and lessened overall use.

You may be experiencing the come up anxiety because you have no real intention of taking them, have a purpose and go after what you want. Distract yourself on the come up's by physical activity, or something to occupy the mind.


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Re: Consistently shitty come-ups [Re: Eclipse3130] * 2
    #23887681 - 12/02/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Drink a few beers and get a buzz before you dose up or smoke some weed before you take them, that's what I do and it helps immensely. The come up is the worst part for most everyone, unless the trip itself becomes too intense.


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Re: Consistently shitty come-ups [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #23887832 - 12/02/16 02:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

This phase is called the storm. You will overcome it eventually and enjoy the entire trip.


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Re: Consistently shitty come-ups [Re: Get Shwifty]
    #23887878 - 12/02/16 02:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I personally get more anxiety from weed+shrooms. I love them both but not together. Larger doses are way less anxiety for me also.


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Re: Consistently shitty come-ups [Re: Headrush]
    #23887967 - 12/02/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, that's pretty normal. I don't get it nearly as much as I used to, it used to be every single time, exactly the same, and very linear/dose dependent. I don't dose as high as I used to, but irregardless it doesn't seem to happen as consistently now. I used to literally pace around it was so intense, it feels like the whole world is kind of ending and in a way it is.


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Re: Consistently shitty come-ups [Re: no0bsawse]
    #23888117 - 12/02/16 04:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yes this is extremely common with psilocybin, the come up is pretty much always anxious and full of apprehension and even pessimism especially with those who are experienced. The comedown is the exact opposite though and it's full of bliss and optimism but the anxious come up is just part of the experience as well. Nothing really much you can do about it you just have to power through that part to get the reward on the other side. You can't have the reward if you don't go through something difficult. This is also one of the things that helps keep mushrooms from being addictive so be thankful.

I always find it hilarious when people (especially with LSD) say they smoke weed to "ease anxiety" on the come up lol. Weed aint gonna do dick, the people who think weed helps them on the come up are feeling nothing but good old placebo. If anything it's just because the weed intoxication is a familiar feeling to them.


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Re: Consistently shitty come-ups [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #23888193 - 12/02/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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psilocybinjunkie said:
Drink a few beers and get a buzz before you dose up or smoke some weed before you take them, that's what I do and it helps immensely. The come up is the worst part for most everyone, unless the trip itself becomes too intense.




agreed...2 or 3 beers for me makes a world of difference as far as easing into the 'come up' phase of a high dose trip without being on edge and anxiety-ridden.  Also, having some Tums on hand can be helpful if heartburn and/or nausea becomes excessive.


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Re: Consistently shitty come-ups [Re: crackbaby]
    #23888224 - 12/02/16 04:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Or just eat 8-10 grams and skip the come up :awesomenod:


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Re: Consistently shitty come-ups [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #23888243 - 12/02/16 04:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

If you drink mushroom tea, you start to feel the effects coming on strong in 10 minutes more or less. Maybe this is a better way to do it if the weird feeling lasts too long when eating them. Most times that I do liberty caps I drink mushroom tea, although the last couple of years I tend to make a mushroomhuasca with syrian rue.

You'll still feel strange when you come up on mushroom tea, but the whole trip moves a lot quicker (and for me I snap back to a normal sober frame of mind at about 4 hours in). If you've not tried mushy tea before it might be worth trying to see if you fare better with it.


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Re: Consistently shitty come-ups [Re: Get Shwifty]
    #23888305 - 12/02/16 05:17 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Get Shwifty said:
This phase is called the storm. You will overcome it eventually and enjoy the entire trip.



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Re: Consistently shitty come-ups [Re: Blazer420]
    #23888662 - 12/02/16 07:36 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, the fungi is taking control of your brain and it takes a hour or two before you can come to terms with this.

The longer you wait between trips the more time it takes before you accept this reality.


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Re: Consistently shitty come-ups [Re: PumpJackTeX]
    #23888844 - 12/02/16 08:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

As someone who has had many a trip ruined because of the anxiety induced on the come up, i can personally say having a good intent/goal/mindset of objective going in, it will make the trip over all easier.
Starting out, your goal is simpler i.e. "What is it like?, Lets show my friends and see what they think, lets all try this dose or some variable" etc with any drug. At least for me and seemingly most of my friends thats how it went.
eventually you find yourself becoming more enlightened sober or otherwise and let's face it. sometimes ignorance is bliss.
But thats what these substances are for.
teaching us about things we normally overlook.
sometimes that learned thing is hard to graple with when your sober or just going about your day and it becomes a thing that begins to more frequently occupy the radio playing in your head all day. when you have something that is constantly going like that in your mind,its more often than not something you need to change or start dealing with and are probably ignoring or struggling to deal with.
I was an over indulgent user that was getting alot of psychedelics in general, especially mushrooms, when i was more naive and a beginner.
im not saying you are. but the issues i was dealing with at the time(being on my own for the first time, making rent,psychotic gf at the time, etc) all began to dominate my come up anxiety.
and because of that, it dominated my entire trip.
and the entire trip was an anxiety ridden wreck.

because of various personal revelations and issues, ive seriously cut back on consumption. i went from basically monthly to sometimes multiple times a month use of lsd and mushrooms(occasionally throwing in random pharms and mdma from holland :crazy2:) for about 2 and a half years straight to gradually halting use almost entirely this year aside from daily cannabis but thats more medicinal than recreational honestly. ive been using cannabis since 17 for pain management,depression and IBS relief.
This year I had a light roll (which i got floored by:eek:),tried some san pedro tea(was weak and kinda uncomfy but i believe thats on me, not the plant) and tried DMT(once again, not enough of a dose but thats because i was not wanting a negative 1st time). Thats it.
I plan on revisting mushrooms for the first time possibly on nye.
I am STILL ANXIOUS about doing them but i think ill be okay this time.

tl;dr
Take enough time in between trips to completely integrate the lessons
learned on these substances. Figure and sort your life out so that
nothing is really going to be glaring at you the whole time you try
to voyage the mind and ultraspace.
treat it like a ritual experience where you plan it out well ahead of time and prepare yourself to what ever degree you see fit.


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Re: Consistently shitty come-ups [Re: BigLunch]
    #23888975 - 12/02/16 09:03 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

soak the mush in fresh lemon or lime juice for 10 mins
make tea with the soaked mush
strain and drink on empty or nearly empty stomach
comeup time is virtually non-existent.  you will go from 0 to 100 in short order


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Re: Consistently shitty come-ups [Re: no0bsawse]
    #23889017 - 12/02/16 09:14 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Coming up is normally at least a little shitty. That's just something you get used to. It's like a roller coaster, on the way up you're going to feel a bit shitty especially just before the drop no matter what. It's just the nature of the experience.

I usually try to distract myself with video games and music. I find it works quite well.


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Re: Consistently shitty come-ups [Re: LuzaW]
    #23889118 - 12/02/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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LuzaW said:
soak the mush in fresh lemon or lime juice for 10 mins
make tea with the soaked mush
strain and drink on empty or nearly empty stomach
comeup time is virtually non-existent.  you will go from 0 to 100 in short order




Very true. I did P. allenii like this and had a very strong and, get this, 2.5 hour trip. Only problem was, the lemon on the empty stomach gave me the worst cotton-mouth imaginable. Every swallow was excruciatingly painful, like Strep-throat, and tended my experience towards a bad trip.


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Re: Consistently shitty come-ups [Re: DavidReishi]
    #23889176 - 12/02/16 10:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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DavidReishi said:
Quote:

LuzaW said:
soak the mush in fresh lemon or lime juice for 10 mins
make tea with the soaked mush
strain and drink on empty or nearly empty stomach
comeup time is virtually non-existent.  you will go from 0 to 100 in short order




Very true. I did P. allenii like this and had a very strong and, get this, 2.5 hour trip. Only problem was, the lemon on the empty stomach gave me the worst cotton-mouth imaginable. Every swallow was excruciatingly painful, like Strep-throat, and tended my experience towards a bad trip.




i don't use a ton of lemon/lime juice, just enough to wet the mush well

i also add some real tea to my mush tea, and a little sugar.  really helps with the cotton mouth effect


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Re: Consistently shitty come-ups [Re: LuzaW]
    #23889327 - 12/02/16 11:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Good to know.


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Re: Consistently shitty come-ups [Re: no0bsawse]
    #23889554 - 12/03/16 02:08 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Wow guys I was worried I was just psyching myself out this whole time, it is really great to know that this is normal and controllable. I will definitely be trying the lemon soak-tea method for my next experience, and I have a few whoppers almost ready to pick. Thank you all again for the thorough replies!


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Re: Consistently shitty come-ups [Re: no0bsawse]
    #23890171 - 12/03/16 10:25 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Extract the good drug(s) & leave behind the rest of the fungi matter outside of your body.


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Re: Consistently shitty come-ups [Re: no0bsawse]
    #23890205 - 12/03/16 10:42 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I have had consistently shitty come-ups on the mushrooms I've cultivated myself. Before cultivating, I hadn't used mushrooms in a few years, for what its worth. While I love the feeling after the come up, the first hour or so seems full of anxiety, feeling like my skin and muscles are tight, and very scatterbrained. Does anyone else feel the same things consistently? After the first hour everything is always gravy tho





The comeup for mushrooms always sucks for me. my only advice is to keep yourself busy during the comeup with a shower or listening to music or watching TV/a movie or something.

But yeah...it always happens to me to the point i tell myself mushrooms are garbage and i never want to take them again...but then it ALWAYS ends up being fascinating and i kick myself in the ass for ever doubting it :lol:


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