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corn meal as substitute for BRF grow log.
    #23887554 - 12/02/16 01:09 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I decided to do an experiment with corn meal (corn flour) as a substitute for brf. I tried looking it up but couldn't really find too much info or experiences doing it.

12/2/16 - put 1 cup of verm and half of corn meal and a random amount of water in each jar, did this with three pint jars. Steam sterilized for an hour, they are now cooling off. After they cool, i will be innoculating with Orissa India P. cubensis.


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Re: corn meal as substitute for BRF grow log. [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
    #23887560 - 12/02/16 01:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

It works but you should PC it.


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Re: corn meal as substitute for BRF grow log. [Re: enlightenment]
    #23887569 - 12/02/16 01:13 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I don't have a pressure cooker which is the only reason i'm not doing grain, will have to pick one up soon.


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Re: corn meal as substitute for BRF grow log. [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
    #23887581 - 12/02/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

OK. You can try it anyway. But you should be prepared for some disappointments. :goodluck:


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Re: corn meal as substitute for BRF grow log. [Re: enlightenment]
    #23887648 - 12/02/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Are you talking contam wise?


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Re: corn meal as substitute for BRF grow log. [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
    #23887697 - 12/02/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yes. A PC would be great for this.
But there has been another guy who tried something similar:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14827971


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Re: corn meal as substitute for BRF grow log. [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
    #23887715 - 12/02/16 01:59 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

even brf takes 90mins to steam sterilize.


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Re: corn meal as substitute for BRF grow log. [Re: spacechildo]
    #23887746 - 12/02/16 02:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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even brf takes 90mins to steam sterilize.



Last time i did it for less than 30 min and no contams whatsoever  :shrug:
I even had two that didn't colonize(because i did something retarded and mixed strains) and let them sit for more than a month in there and still no sign of contams.
Not saying that's the correct thing to do, but it happened.


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Re: corn meal as substitute for BRF grow log. [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
    #23887755 - 12/02/16 02:09 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

spacechildo is right. I did not read that you steamed it for just 30 minutes. With grains you should steam the jars for at least 90 minutes. I PC my grain jars for 90 minutes. Better safe than sorry.


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Re: corn meal as substitute for BRF grow log. [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
    #23887772 - 12/02/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

no contams you were able to recognize perhaps. still doesnt take away the fact you should steam sterilize for at least 90mins.
mixing strains is not retarded, every MS grow you do have thousands of strains growing.


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Re: corn meal as substitute for BRF grow log. [Re: enlightenment]
    #23887787 - 12/02/16 02:17 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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spacechildo is right. I did not read that you steamed it for just 30 minutes. With grains you should steam the jars for at least 90 minutes. I PC my grain jars for 90 minutes. Better safe than sorry.



I steamed the corn meal for an hour maybe a little more. In a previous grow i steamed BRF for 30.


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Re: corn meal as substitute for BRF grow log. [Re: spacechildo]
    #23887794 - 12/02/16 02:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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no contams you were able to recognize perhaps. still doesnt take away the fact you should steam sterilize for at least 90mins.
mixing strains is not retarded, every MS grow you do have thousands of strains growing.



Yeah i definitely should've done it for longer last time. I didn't know it was specifically 90 only because i have read a lot of info of people saying do it for 60, next time i will for 90.


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Re: corn meal as substitute for BRF grow log. [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
    #23887797 - 12/02/16 02:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Just try it :shrug:
As I wrote I would feel uncomfortable without a PC.
I have a PC that's why I never tried things like this.


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Re: corn meal as substitute for BRF grow log. [Re: enlightenment]
    #23887802 - 12/02/16 02:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Just try it :shrug:
As I wrote I would feel uncomfortable without a PC.
I have a PC that's why I never tried things like this.



Oh i definitely will, only reason i did 60 was because i had read reports of people saying to do it for 60. I will for sure get a PC, though.


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Re: corn meal as substitute for BRF grow log. [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
    #24014641 - 01/16/17 12:55 PM (7 years, 14 days ago)

Do you have an update has your jar colinized?


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