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Jazrael1981
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1st attempt Rez Effect Tek
#23887397 - 12/02/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm starting my Rez Effect Tek and as of right now I have 12 1quart jars, silicone, tyvek, WBS, coarse verm, and have ordered my spores from a reputable place. From what I've read once I get the jars colonized fully I should mix them with the field capacity verm at a 1:1 ratio and put into a tub which will be covered and left for 10 days untouched. My first question is.. should I use 1 giant tub for all 12 or should I split it up ? What size shape and color should my tubs be ?
Edited by Jazrael1981 (12/02/16 12:48 PM)
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Re: 1st attempt Rez Effect Tek [Re: Jazrael1981]
#23887400 - 12/02/16 12:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Take the sponsor name off your post, I'd split it 2 tubs with 6 each
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Jazrael1981
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Re: 1st attempt Rez Effect Tek [Re: afflictis]
#23887503 - 12/02/16 12:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Done! What size tub should I get and should I get clear tubs or something not see through?
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Re: 1st attempt Rez Effect Tek [Re: Jazrael1981]
#23887516 - 12/02/16 12:56 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You read some outdated TEKs. Rez effect works but there are better methods around. Use the search function for "monotub". Take a look: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20356759 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17332777
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Jazrael1981
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I completely agree but since this is my first time I picked a very easy Tek. Next attempt will be a MonoTub
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Re: 1st attempt Rez Effect Tek [Re: Jazrael1981]
#23887547 - 12/02/16 01:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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A mono is pretty easy but if you want to go with rez: Split your 12 quarts to more than one container. Just in case if something goes bad, you have a "backup".
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Jazrael1981
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That's what I was thinking. The reason I wanted to try Rez was mostly just to start grasping the methods used. When I do a mono I hope to have a better understanding. What size tubs ?
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Re: 1st attempt Rez Effect Tek [Re: Jazrael1981]
#23887577 - 12/02/16 01:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you have tubs laying around measure them with water. Fill quart jars with water to try the volume. Your substrate depth should be around 3 - 3.5 inches. (That's what I use).
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Jazrael1981
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So essentially each tub should be able to hold 12qt at a depth of 3-3.5in with enough air space for my "My precious" to grow without hitting the lid correct?
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Re: 1st attempt Rez Effect Tek [Re: Jazrael1981]
#23887591 - 12/02/16 01:20 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you want to make 2 tubs, yes. You can make 3 small tubs with 4 quarts each. Look around for suitable tubs.
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Jazrael1981
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Excellent! Now.. let me ask this. After I Noc my jars they should be kept in a warm 70-80 environment correct? Also should it be kept dark as well? And this same environment is used during incubation of my tubs as well?
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Re: 1st attempt Rez Effect Tek [Re: Jazrael1981]
#23887690 - 12/02/16 01:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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65 - 75 is OK. I already let my jars colonize at 60F... Takes some time but it works. You do not have to raise your temperature to 80F. I don't know where you live but it would be very expensive for me to raise the temperature to 80F in December. Daylight is good for mycelium growth. Don't keep them in the dark. The same environment for fruiting, yes.
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Ok. Thanks! I guess my plan is to Noc my jars and place them into a sterile clear tub with the lid on to help prevent any contam. Set it somewhere that it will get natural light but not direct light and wait for the jars to colonize. Does that sound about right? When they are about 25% colonized I should do the shake and put them back to fully colonize?
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Re: 1st attempt Rez Effect Tek [Re: Jazrael1981]
#23887768 - 12/02/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sounds good. Do not try to shake because corn flour / verm won't be able to shake well. Apply a dry verm layer, like you would with BRF cakes.
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Jazrael1981
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Not sure I follow you there? Can you further explain? The way I read was to have 1/4 cup FC verm in the bottom of each jar with the WBS on top and to shake at 25% to stir up the Myc.
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Re: 1st attempt Rez Effect Tek [Re: Jazrael1981]
#23887786 - 12/02/16 02:17 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Damn I was in the wrong thread with my thoughts. (corn meal as substitute for BRF grow log.) Shake the jars at about 25% or 30%.
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Oh LOL. No worries. I really appreciate all the help and information everyone has been giving me. This is going to be a great experiment and a lot of fun
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Re: 1st attempt Rez Effect Tek [Re: Jazrael1981]
#23887800 - 12/02/16 02:20 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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 Keep us posted.
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Jazrael1981
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Will do!
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Re: 1st attempt Rez Effect Tek [Re: Jazrael1981]
#23887866 - 12/02/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Let me correct myself. I made a mistake earlier when I said placing 1/4 cup of Field capacity verm in the bottom of each jar. What I meant to say is one quarter cup of dry verm to soak up any extra moisture in the jars. Is that right?
Edited by Jazrael1981 (12/02/16 02:51 PM)
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Re: 1st attempt Rez Effect Tek [Re: Jazrael1981]
#23887876 - 12/02/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I would not place a dry verm layer on the bottom. Check the verm field capacity by squeezing it. You just want to get a few drops water out of the squeezed vermiculite. You do not need a dry vermiculite layer.
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I find the rez effect works better with coir...
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Re: 1st attempt Rez Effect Tek [Re: cronicr]
#23889778 - 12/03/16 06:58 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Can I use it in the same manner as WBS and not change anything else in my process? I have no experience with coir.
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Re: 1st attempt Rez Effect Tek [Re: Jazrael1981]
#23889785 - 12/03/16 07:02 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You can substitute verm with coir. Do a monotub with coir/verm or try the rez effect as it is (without coir). I recommended a monotub some posts ago but it seems like you want to do the rez effect TEK. If you do it stick to the TEK and do not try to modify it if it is your first grow.
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Ok ill make it even easier. Do not add verm to bottom of your jars. Anyone whos tryed it know that it helps with wet spor but makes life a bicth the rest of the way. Just soak your wbs 24 hours in hot water, drain all the water out and air dry out for 1 hour. Load up and pc ypur jars for 2 hours at 15psi. Done no more prep needed.
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Re: 1st attempt Rez Effect Tek [Re: tump]
#23889806 - 12/03/16 07:20 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't have a PC but what researching other ways. What would you recommend?
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Jazrael1981
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I'm really thinking about going with a tub.
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Re: 1st attempt Rez Effect Tek [Re: Jazrael1981]
#23889850 - 12/03/16 07:48 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You do not have a PC? Working with grain without a PC is doomed to failure.
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Jazrael1981
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You can boil the jars right?
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Re: 1st attempt Rez Effect Tek [Re: Jazrael1981]
#23889866 - 12/03/16 07:53 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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 That works with PF TEK jars (brown rice flour / vermiculite / water). Maybe you should read about PF TEK first. If you get good results and you start to enjoy cultivation you'll buy a PC anyway. A PC is essential in this hobby.
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Great gif! OK so I'm gonna get a pc today. They have a 6qt on sale. Hopefully it's deep enough. I'll check around while I'm getting my tub. So if I do a monotub can I still mix my fc verm with the colonized jars and just let it go after that?
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Re: 1st attempt Rez Effect Tek [Re: Jazrael1981]
#23890185 - 12/03/16 10:34 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just went and picked up my supplies. Can I go ahead and pressure cook my WBS today and inoculate them next week? That is when my spores come in
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Re: 1st attempt Rez Effect Tek [Re: Jazrael1981]
#23890822 - 12/03/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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6 qt is pretty useless...get at least a 16
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Re: 1st attempt Rez Effect Tek [Re: cronicr]
#23890850 - 12/03/16 02:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok. My current supplies are:
WBS 2 Tubs w/lids Polyfil 12 1qt jars w/tyvek lid 2 blocks coco coir 10qt Pressure cooker
Just ordered my Vermiculite Spores will be here probably Tues.
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Re: 1st attempt Rez Effect Tek [Re: Jazrael1981]
#23891798 - 12/03/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh you. You can steam your jars for atleast 8 to 9 hours without a pc. Still not ideal
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Re: 1st attempt Rez Effect Tek [Re: Jazrael1981]
#23918518 - 12/12/16 03:21 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have moved to a MONOTUB and the grow log/feedback thread is located here.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23907011
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