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Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs?
#23886455 - 12/02/16 01:48 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Going to a new doc in a week. Always had the mind set that I don't want some file floating around saying I eat acid and mushrooms. Should I keep it that way?
I figure, it's a doctor, they should know the shit you do to your body but the gf said fuck that don't tell them.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: PreparationH] 1
#23886460 - 12/02/16 01:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't have a doctor but I would be completely open with them, it makes no sense to even go to a doc if you don't give them all the information they need.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: Tmethyl] 5
#23886483 - 12/02/16 02:14 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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No. Do not tell them. If you ever plan on getting anything like life insurance in the future those medical records will fuck your shit up and make you ineligible. It also makes you ineligible for certain treatments, even if you really need pain medications, like you just had surgery or something.
I would never tell them unless it was relevant to what I was being diagnosed or treated for.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: Crystal G] 6
#23886495 - 12/02/16 02:32 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I get treated like a junkie enough without saying so.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23886638 - 12/02/16 05:47 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crystal G said: No. Do not tell them. If you ever plan on getting anything like life insurance in the future those medical records will fuck your shit up and make you ineligible. It also makes you ineligible for certain treatments, even if you really need pain medications, like you just had surgery or something.
I would never tell them unless it was relevant to what I was being diagnosed or treated for.
Yeah unless I'm there for taking drugs in the first place they have no right to know.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: Crystal G]
#23886665 - 12/02/16 06:02 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crystal G said: No. Do not tell them. If you ever plan on getting anything like life insurance in the future those medical records will fuck your shit up and make you ineligible. It also makes you ineligible for certain treatments, even if you really need pain medications, like you just had surgery or something.
I would never tell them unless it was relevant to what I was being diagnosed or treated for.
Yeah this.
I told my doctor about weed and alcohol but i wouldnt tell them about anything less socially acceptable unless that was the reason i was there in the first place.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23886669 - 12/02/16 06:03 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes.
My doc knows everything
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: Patlal] 1
#23887108 - 12/02/16 10:18 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't tell my docs what i like. Even if it's just hallucinogens, they aren't going to understand what they do or how they work, and you may very well be laughed at like i was by a nurse or something. they don't need to know for the most part what you do with your time.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: Patlal] 1
#23887111 - 12/02/16 10:18 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Your General Practitioner? Sure, why not? It's not like a doctor can have you arrested for using drugs, doctor-patient confidentiality clause.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: Maverick]
#23887114 - 12/02/16 10:19 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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gen pracs don't know what shrooms or lsd are ime
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: 404]
#23887116 - 12/02/16 10:20 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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404 said: gen pracs don't know what shrooms or lsd are ime
Mine told me stories about how she went to burning man and tripped on LSD...
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: Maverick]
#23887130 - 12/02/16 10:23 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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i'm sure there are some out there that know about it and maybe even have used. i've met a lot of docs that didn't know their shit, even one neurologist.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: 404]
#23887133 - 12/02/16 10:24 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah i guess it's really uh, dependent on your doctor and how well you know/trust them. If it's just some random doctor you've never met I wouldn't tell them things... However if it's a GP you've known for years and know is accepting of the use of psychedelics and such, it's a bit easier to talk to them about things.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: Maverick]
#23887147 - 12/02/16 10:28 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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sure, i didn't even get to the trust thing. i had been seeing my doc for a long time and was totally comfortable telling them stuff like that, they just didnt know and the specialist's nurse that they sent me over to (neurologist) laughed at me, and the neurologist gave me a reflex exam and told me to go back to school because i was smart. can't tell you how frustrated with them as they wasted valuable time.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: 404]
#23887150 - 12/02/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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They don't even know I smoke cigarettes. Keep it locked up.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: King Klick] 1
#23887158 - 12/02/16 10:33 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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If he takes your blood, he'll know instantly from the lsd residual deposits you and all acid users carelessly leave behind in your spine.
You need to drain the fluid if you want to convincingly lie.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: Crystal G]
#23887160 - 12/02/16 10:34 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crystal G said: No. Do not tell them. If you ever plan on getting anything like life insurance in the future those medical records will fuck your shit up and make you ineligible. It also makes you ineligible for certain treatments, even if you really need pain medications, like you just had surgery or something.
I would never tell them unless it was relevant to what I was being diagnosed or treated for.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: LobsterSauce]
#23887185 - 12/02/16 10:44 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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LobsterSauce said: If he takes your blood, he'll know instantly from the lsd residual deposits you and all acid users carelessly leave behind in your spine.
You need to drain the fluid if you want to convincingly lie.
I hear an ice pick right at the base of the spine is a good start.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: King Klick]
#23887245 - 12/02/16 11:16 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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CookieCrumbs said: I get treated like a junkie enough without saying so.
This.
Because of how I appear, many docs treat me like shit, so I say fuck em.
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King Klick said: They don't even know I smoke cigarettes. Keep it locked up.
I bet they smell it on you.
When I quit smoking I realized just how much smoking made me stink, but I didn't smell it when I was smoking.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: Lucis]
#23887254 - 12/02/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Fennario said:
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CookieCrumbs said: I get treated like a junkie enough without saying so.
This.
Because of how I appear, many docs treat me like shit, so I say fuck em.
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King Klick said: They don't even know I smoke cigarettes. Keep it locked up.
I bet they smell it on you.
When I quit smoking I realized just how much smoking made me stink, but I didn't smell it when I was smoking.
I smell like good tobacco at least. It doesn't bother me, part of the masculine appeal. They can't report that I smell like tobacco either. I mean they could, but what would that do? Lol
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: King Klick]
#23887436 - 12/02/16 12:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I wasn't saying they would care if you smoked, just that when I used to smoke I couldn't smell it on myself, but would have people say I smelled like smoke, you know since you're used to it probably don't smell it.
Anyway, about this topic, I have told my therapist the substances I have done, but not other medical people. My therapist is cool as a fan, so no worries there, she doesn't treat me as a subhuman piece of trash, I like her and she does her job well.
CrysG made some valid points.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: PreparationH]
#23887442 - 12/02/16 12:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Never tell the doctor about any aberrant behavior.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: Lucis]
#23887443 - 12/02/16 12:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am not going to risk losing my painkiller (or any abusable medication) privledges.
I wish i could tell my doctor about everything but thats a big gamble.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23887450 - 12/02/16 12:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Currently I don't take any medications, I don't plan on taking any either unless I have to, I have my fingers crossed.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: Lucis]
#23887458 - 12/02/16 12:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Fennario said: Currently I don't take any medications, I don't plan on taking any either unless I have to, I have my fingers crossed.
But thats the thing...
You never know if you will need them at some point.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23887463 - 12/02/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's why I am keeping my fingers crossed.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: Lucis]
#23887507 - 12/02/16 12:53 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I dont tell most doctors shit because it comes back to haunt you like Crystal said. I have a good relationship with my new doc and nurse.
The nurse there told me to keep things underwrap about drug/alcohol abuse if i didnt want to get black listed. If they think youre manipulating them for narcotics you wont get so much as a tramadol if you need it.
I was prescribed PKs for a while but it was such a hassle with insurance and doctors getting the run around. I for a while had a palliative care doc that prescribed me PKs til insurance dropped me for that.
I have a yearly visit where my doc asks me all about everything, including how i deal with the pain caused by my condition. Honestly I'll tell her the truth, that i bypassed all the doctor/insurance bs and i get my own opiates via poppy seed tea.
I mean i had doctors in the past tell me that while they knew i had a genuine need they "didnt want their dea id# out there."
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23887517 - 12/02/16 12:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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BANANA.MAN said: I am not going to risk losing my painkiller (or any abusable medication) privledges.
I wish i could tell my doctor about everything but thats a big gamble.
What he said.. if you tell your doctor you use "Street drugs" or even abuse alcohol they are less likely to prescribe you pain killers even if you need them. Because they know people who partake in rec drug use or drinking are most likely to abuse/get addicted to them
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: MagicMush123]
#23887751 - 12/02/16 02:09 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nah.
I did tell my employer I smoked weed during my job interview when they asked me what would happen if they drug tested me then and there. I work for a tech company that is very west coast in attitude, super casual office, people bring their dogs, at first I thought I really fucked up by telling the truth but I have a feeling they were just like 'yeah she'll fit in here'.
not my doc though. If I was seeing a psychologist I would tell all though.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: MagicMush123]
#23887855 - 12/02/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've told all my doctors that I use cannabis and have been treated like a junkie ever since. There might be a few that seem OK with it but I never met one. They will never prescribe any controlled substance again. After telling my family doc it was the end of ten year relationship. He wrote cannabis abuse on record and it never goes away from your records. I confronted him about term abuse and he said "any" illegal use of a drug is abuse. I have no regrets about telling the truth though because their unwillingness to prescribe opiates and valium made me quit after about 5 years of daily use. That was hell quitting. I am eternally grateful for cannabis,kratom and shrooms.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: Headrush]
#23888189 - 12/02/16 04:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I guess the last time I seen a doctor I got hurt or something when I was messed up.
Stitches, drug test, hasly of explaining why I popped dirty for benzos, opiates, nacotics, alcohol, and worst of all MARIJUANA!
Im sure im black listed, "what doctor prescribed you all these meds???!!!!" Like, I do my own thing, okay? Its cheaper, and I don't deal with run arounds, its either getting the meds or not. Instead of running from one doctor to another to get the answer you wanted.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: LSDollar]
#23888417 - 12/02/16 06:03 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Honestly it hardly matters anymore about the docs blacklisting you. I mean you really only have to worry if you are doc shopping, trying to get multiple narcotic prescriptions. Thats the kind of stuff they keep track of.
Also if you end up in the ER with narcotics in your system there is no way your doc will know unless you let them know. You will be formally asked if information is to be shared. Its funny people like to think there is some big book somwhere thats your permanent record that goes all the way back to 2nd grade when you farted on Susie Sanchez.
There are plenty of doctors that provided you come off as responsible intellegent and clean cut, will overlook things like mild recreational drug use. I told a doc that i ocasionally smoked herb and he still wrote a script for pain meds.
Honestly with the new trend of docs being reluctant to prescribe opiates/benzos/stims it really wont matter to most of us. Nobody short of the dying or the extremely ill will recieve these meds.
I recommend that the common responsible individual do research on substances they can obtain legally or with little risk to treat their medical needs. The medical community/insurance is so all around fucked up now days.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: PreparationH]
#23888454 - 12/02/16 06:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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PreparationH said: Always had the mind set that I don't want some file floating around saying I eat acid and mushrooms.
I don't understand how or why you would care.
I just don't get the mindset of "oh no I don't want anyone to know I've taken LSD or mushrooms"...Why?? Why don't you want people to know? There's nothing wrong with it and that kind of attitude and mindset only further perpetuates negative stereotypes about psychedelics and does more to hold back the social acceptance of such things. Rick Doblin said that one of the main reasons that MDMA was made illegal was because people were afraid to come out to their friends, family and coworkers and just admit that they've used it. He said that was the biggest thing holding MDMA back.
Have you not had amazing experiences with psychedelics or something? Because I sure have. I feel like hiding these amazing experiences and not talking about them will get us nowhere. I don't care if people think I'm crazy for praising psychedelics because the more people who come out about these drugs the more people will stop assuming it's just meaningless chemical chaos. It's a form of social immaturity and nothing more.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
#23888457 - 12/02/16 06:17 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I suppose if it really affected the relationship with your physician, get a new doctor. Pretty simple.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: badchad]
#23888717 - 12/02/16 07:55 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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badchad said: I suppose if it really affected the relationship with your physician, get a new doctor. Pretty simple.
If the doctor had a problem with it then they would put it on your record. So as soon as you get to the new doctor, if they arent cool you are back to square one.
And you might not find a cool doctor.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23888794 - 12/02/16 08:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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badchad said: I suppose if it really affected the relationship with your physician, get a new doctor. Pretty simple.
If the doctor had a problem with it then they would put it on your record. So as soon as you get to the new doctor, if they arent cool you are back to square one.
And you might not find a cool doctor.
It doesnt matter what they put in your "record." If you get a new doc in a new place they will not be privy to past information. They will always ask you to sign something that allows the sharing of info.
They are not omnipotent permanent record keepers
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23888808 - 12/02/16 08:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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badchad said: I suppose if it really affected the relationship with your physician, get a new doctor. Pretty simple.
If the doctor had a problem with it then they would put it on your record. So as soon as you get to the new doctor, if they arent cool you are back to square one.
And you might not find a cool doctor.
Exactly what happened to me.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
#23888811 - 12/02/16 08:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Again the only thing that they all keep track of is the prescription of scheduled drugs you have been prescribed.
If you go to a doc and ask for some sort of narcotic script they will be able to look you up and see if you have/had any other scripts prescribed.
Other than that the docs only know what you share with them or what you allow to be shared by other docs.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23889003 - 12/02/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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BANANA.MAN said:
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badchad said: I suppose if it really affected the relationship with your physician, get a new doctor. Pretty simple.
If the doctor had a problem with it then they would put it on your record. So as soon as you get to the new doctor, if they arent cool you are back to square one.
And you might not find a cool doctor.
So, I'm actually curious... is there a nationwide database where any doctor of any type can pull up these records about you, once there IS a written record about you?
What if you change your insurance carrier or legally change your name, can they still find these records? Is it based on your social security numbers or what?
What if you travel to a new doctor out of county or out of state, can they still pull up these records about you?
Do these records ever expire after a certain number of years?
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: Crystal G]
#23889019 - 12/02/16 09:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Pretty sure you need to green light any information transfer because of HIPPA.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: PreparationH]
#23889031 - 12/02/16 09:17 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Never ever tell your doctor about your drug use unless the strongest thing you ever want to be prescribed is ibuprofen. They'll brand you as a drug seeker/user/addict, and then virtually all drugs are off limits to you for good.
I should know. I made the mistake of telling them when I was much younger (over 10 years ago), and they STILL won't give me anything even remotely decent.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: PatrickKn]
#23889069 - 12/02/16 09:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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PatrickKn said: Pretty sure you need to green light any information transfer because of HIPPA.
I know doctors and pharmacists are able to pull up any scheduled medications you've been prescribed and bought, because it's all logged by the DEA or something.
But I'm curious if they can input some "red flag" type of thing in with your insurance company, so that every time you use that insurance under your name, it shows up as "drug user" or "hypochondriac" or whatever.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: Crystal G]
#23889579 - 12/03/16 02:29 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Depends man. For the standard garden-variety illnesses I find it irrelevant
But when I tried some RC that messed with my kidneys I definitely told her about it. Luckily in the Netherlands drugs aren't really an issue and there is very strict patient-doctor confidentiality
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: Crystal G]
#23889824 - 12/03/16 07:33 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crystal G said: It also makes you ineligible for certain treatments, even if you really need pain medications
That is true. They will most likely not prescribe any controlled substances if you tell them you do illegal drugs.
Btw, why did you delete all your youtube videos????? I really enjoyed them.
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So, I'm actually curious... is there a nationwide database where any doctor of any type can pull up these records about you, once there IS a written record about you?
What if you travel to a new doctor out of county or out of state, can they still pull up these records about you?
I don't think there is. My new doctor told me that I needed to contact the old doctor and have them fax the records over.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: AmericanPsycho]
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Crystal G said:
So, I'm actually curious... is there a nationwide database where any doctor of any type can pull up these records about you, once there IS a written record about you?
What if you travel to a new doctor out of county or out of state, can they still pull up these records about you?
I don't think there is. That's why its so easy to doctor shop. There may be some state-level type of regulation, but I don't think every doctor and every pharmacist in the country has access to the scheduled drugs that someone has took.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: Tmethyl]
#23889934 - 12/03/16 08:38 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tmethyl said: I don't have a doctor but I would be completely open with them, it makes no sense to even go to a doc if you don't give them all the information they need.
They're morally and legally bound to at least reevaluate your treatment once you disclose drug use. If your going to the doctor for scheduled 'medicine' then you wouldn't disclose anything. If it's just a family doctor, then it's of no concern and you should bring it up if your worried about it.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: Magicman69] 1
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Those of you who don't tell your doc everything are dumb as fuck...
The man is trying to figure out your health and whether or not there's a risk to your life and you don't divulge the one thing that could definitely be a huge part of the diagnosis...
You: Gee doc my sinuses feel weird. Doc: Hmmm, Do you do anything that could contribute to that? You: No not at all! (Except for the 5 grams of coke I've been snorting every night for that last week and a half)
Patient confidentiality. They have to respect it.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: Patlal]
#23889965 - 12/03/16 09:03 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I told my dentist I party when I got my wisdom teeth taken out. He got a kick out of it. Said he had to turn the nitros all the way up which is unusual he said. And then gave me thos 7.5 mg norcos. Depends on the Dr. This dude has told me stories about him cutting his hand on glass at a bar, driving back to his office putting the mask on and stitching his shit up like a g. Dr's are people too.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: PreparationH]
#23890134 - 12/03/16 10:05 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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PreparationH said: Going to a new doc in a week. Always had the mind set that I don't want some file floating around saying I eat acid and mushrooms. Should I keep it that way?
what's a doctor?
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: badchad]
#23890441 - 12/03/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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badchad said:
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Crystal G said:
So, I'm actually curious... is there a nationwide database where any doctor of any type can pull up these records about you, once there IS a written record about you?
What if you travel to a new doctor out of county or out of state, can they still pull up these records about you?
I don't think there is. That's why its so easy to doctor shop. There may be some state-level type of regulation, but I don't think every doctor and every pharmacist in the country has access to the scheduled drugs that someone has took.
Maybe not in the country but then again maybe. The dea certainly logs all controlled meds. Docs may only have regional info though. Either way doc shopping is not easy nowadays, even if you can go out of state (unknowingly to local docs) for a script.. I wouldn't call that easy
Last time i tried to get a script from a new pain management doc (chicago) she gave me a hard time and then eventually relented. Told me about a new system where you can type in a name and see current controlled scripts a person has. She said as long as i was clear, she'd hook it up. Which i was..
God though the shit i went through to get 60 trams. This was over the summer.
Drug use is one thing to worry about telling docs. Unless youre having a real concern i personally would conceal as much as possible/practical. What your real concern is when your doc starts asking about your guns and mental state.
Ive known people with big mouths to get calls/visits from police for sarcastically saying something to the doc about going crazy.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: King Klick]
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CookieCrumbs said: I get treated like a junkie enough without saying so.
This.
Because of how I appear, many docs treat me like shit, so I say fuck em.
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King Klick said: They don't even know I smoke cigarettes. Keep it locked up.
I bet they smell it on you.
When I quit smoking I realized just how much smoking made me stink, but I didn't smell it when I was smoking.
I smell like good tobacco at least. It doesn't bother me, part of the masculine appeal. They can't report that I smell like tobacco either. I mean they could, but what would that do? Lol
Tell them your roommate smokes.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: Patlal]
#23890985 - 12/03/16 03:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Patlal said: Those of you who don't tell your doc everything are dumb as fuck...
The man is trying to figure out your health and whether or not there's a risk to your life and you don't divulge the one thing that could definitely be a huge part of the diagnosis...
You: Gee doc my sinuses feel weird. Doc: Hmmm, Do you do anything that could contribute to that? You: No not at all! (Except for the 5 grams of coke I've been snorting every night for that last week and a half)
Patient confidentiality. They have to respect it.
What your talking about and what we're talking about are completely different scenarios.. we're talking about when you a see a doctor and he casually asks your alcohol intake/ drug use. Not going there for a ailment caused by a certain substance
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: MagicMush123]
#23891036 - 12/03/16 03:33 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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MagicMush123 said:
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Patlal said: Those of you who don't tell your doc everything are dumb as fuck...
The man is trying to figure out your health and whether or not there's a risk to your life and you don't divulge the one thing that could definitely be a huge part of the diagnosis...
You: Gee doc my sinuses feel weird. Doc: Hmmm, Do you do anything that could contribute to that? You: No not at all! (Except for the 5 grams of coke I've been snorting every night for that last week and a half)
Patient confidentiality. They have to respect it.
What your talking about and what we're talking about are completely different scenarios.. we're talking about when you a see a doctor and he casually asks your alcohol intake/ drug use. Not going there for a ailment caused by a certain substance
yeah many people have tried to clarify that in this thread.
i agree that you SHOULD be able to tell your doctor everything but you should also be allowed medication when you need it.
if a problem occurs that I think might be a result of my drug use then ill decide if its worth telling him. ill cross that bridge when i come to it.
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23891258 - 12/03/16 04:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I tell the doctors what they want to hear to get what I want but I have a therapist that doesn't control or talk to the person who controls my psyche/pain meds. So I tell him most everything.
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