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OfflineLucisM
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: King Klick]
    #23887436 - 12/02/16 12:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I wasn't saying they would care if you smoked, just that when I used to smoke I couldn't smell it on myself, but would have people say I smelled like smoke, you know since you're used to it probably don't smell it.

Anyway, about this topic, I have told my therapist the substances I have done, but not other medical people.  My therapist is cool as a fan, so no worries there, she doesn't treat me as a subhuman piece of trash, I like her and she does her job well.

CrysG made some valid points.:thumbup:


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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: PreparationH]
    #23887442 - 12/02/16 12:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Never tell the doctor about any aberrant behavior.


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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: Lucis]
    #23887443 - 12/02/16 12:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I am not going to risk losing my painkiller (or any abusable medication) privledges.

I wish i could tell my doctor about everything but thats a big gamble.


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OfflineLucisM
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #23887450 - 12/02/16 12:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Currently I don't take any medications, I don't plan on taking any either unless I have to, I have my fingers crossed.:laugh:


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OfflineBANANA.MAN
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: Lucis]
    #23887458 - 12/02/16 12:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Fennario said:
Currently I don't take any medications, I don't plan on taking any either unless I have to, I have my fingers crossed.:laugh:



But thats the thing...

You never know if you will need them at some point.


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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #23887463 - 12/02/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

That's why I am keeping my fingers crossed.:lol:


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InvisibleMush 4 Brains
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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: Lucis]
    #23887507 - 12/02/16 12:53 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I dont tell most doctors shit because it comes back to haunt you like Crystal said. I have a good relationship with my new doc and nurse.

The nurse there told me to keep things underwrap about drug/alcohol abuse if i didnt want to get black listed. If they think youre manipulating them for narcotics you wont get so much as a tramadol if you need it.

I was prescribed PKs for a while but it was such a hassle with insurance and doctors getting the run around. I for a while had a palliative care doc that prescribed me PKs til insurance dropped me for that.

I have a yearly visit where my doc asks me all about everything, including how i deal with the pain caused by my condition. Honestly I'll tell her the truth, that i bypassed all the doctor/insurance bs and i get my own opiates via poppy seed tea.

I mean i had doctors in the past tell me that while they knew i had a genuine need they "didnt want their dea id# out there."


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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #23887517 - 12/02/16 12:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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BANANA.MAN said:
I am not going to risk losing my painkiller (or any abusable medication) privledges.

I wish i could tell my doctor about everything but thats a big gamble.




What he said.. if you tell your doctor you use "Street drugs" or even abuse alcohol they are less likely to prescribe you pain killers even if you need them. Because they know people who partake in rec drug use or drinking are most likely to abuse/get addicted to them


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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: MagicMush123]
    #23887751 - 12/02/16 02:09 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Nah.



I did tell my employer I smoked weed during my job interview when they asked me what would happen if they drug tested me then and there. I work for a tech company that is very west coast in attitude, super casual office, people bring their dogs, at first I thought I really fucked up by telling the truth but I have a feeling they were just like 'yeah she'll fit in here'. 



not my doc though. If I was seeing a psychologist I would tell all though.


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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: MagicMush123]
    #23887855 - 12/02/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I've told all my doctors that I use cannabis and have been treated like a junkie ever since. There might be a few that seem OK with it but I never met one. They will never prescribe any controlled substance again.
After telling my family doc it was the end of ten year relationship. He wrote cannabis abuse on record and it never goes away from your records. I confronted him about term abuse and he said "any" illegal use of a drug is abuse.
I have no regrets about telling the truth though because their unwillingness to prescribe opiates and valium made me quit after about 5 years of daily use. That was hell quitting. I am eternally grateful for cannabis,kratom and shrooms.


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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: Headrush]
    #23888189 - 12/02/16 04:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I guess the last time I seen a doctor I got hurt or something when I was messed up.

Stitches, drug test, hasly of explaining why I popped dirty for benzos, opiates, nacotics, alcohol, and worst of all MARIJUANA!

Im sure im black listed, "what doctor prescribed you all these meds???!!!!" Like, I do my own thing, okay? Its cheaper, and I don't deal with run arounds, its either getting the meds or not. Instead of running from one doctor to another to get the answer you wanted.


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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: LSDollar]
    #23888417 - 12/02/16 06:03 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Honestly it hardly matters anymore about the docs blacklisting you. I mean you really only have to worry if you are doc shopping, trying to get multiple narcotic prescriptions. Thats the kind of stuff they keep track of.

Also if you end up in the ER with narcotics in your system there is no way your doc will know unless you let them know. You will be formally asked if information is to be shared. Its funny people like to think there is some big book somwhere thats your permanent record that goes all the way back to 2nd grade when you farted on Susie Sanchez.

There are plenty of doctors that provided you come off as responsible intellegent and clean cut, will overlook things like mild recreational drug use. I told a doc that i ocasionally smoked herb and he still wrote a script for pain meds.

Honestly with the new trend of docs being reluctant to prescribe opiates/benzos/stims it really wont matter to most of us. Nobody short of the dying or the extremely ill will recieve these meds.

I recommend that the common responsible individual do research on substances they can obtain legally or with little risk to treat their medical needs. The medical community/insurance is so all around fucked up now days.


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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: PreparationH]
    #23888454 - 12/02/16 06:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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PreparationH said:
Always had the mind set that I don't want some file floating around saying I eat acid and mushrooms.




I don't understand how or why you would care.


I just don't get the mindset of "oh no I don't want anyone to know I've taken LSD or mushrooms"...Why??
Why don't you want people to know? There's nothing wrong with it and that kind of attitude and mindset only further perpetuates negative stereotypes about psychedelics and does more to hold back the social acceptance of such things.
Rick Doblin said that one of the main reasons that MDMA was made illegal was because people were afraid to come out to their friends, family and coworkers and just admit that they've used it. He said that was the biggest thing holding MDMA back.

Have you not had amazing experiences with psychedelics or something? Because I sure have. I feel like hiding these amazing experiences and not talking about them will get us nowhere. I don't care if people think I'm crazy for praising psychedelics because the more people who come out about these drugs the more people will stop assuming it's just meaningless chemical chaos. It's a form of social immaturity and nothing more.


"If you hid your stash you're doing the man's work for him."

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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
    #23888457 - 12/02/16 06:17 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I suppose if it really affected the relationship with your physician, get a new doctor.  Pretty simple.


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...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: badchad]
    #23888717 - 12/02/16 07:55 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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badchad said:
I suppose if it really affected the relationship with your physician, get a new doctor.  Pretty simple.



If the doctor had a problem with it then they would put it on your record. So as soon as you get to the new doctor, if they arent cool you are back to square one.

And you might not find a cool doctor.


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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #23888794 - 12/02/16 08:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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BANANA.MAN said:
Quote:

badchad said:
I suppose if it really affected the relationship with your physician, get a new doctor.  Pretty simple.



If the doctor had a problem with it then they would put it on your record. So as soon as you get to the new doctor, if they arent cool you are back to square one.

And you might not find a cool doctor.



It doesnt matter what they put in your "record." If you get a new doc in a new place they will not be privy to past information. They will always ask you to sign something that allows the sharing of info.

They are not omnipotent permanent record keepers


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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #23888808 - 12/02/16 08:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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BANANA.MAN said:
Quote:

badchad said:
I suppose if it really affected the relationship with your physician, get a new doctor.  Pretty simple.



If the doctor had a problem with it then they would put it on your record. So as soon as you get to the new doctor, if they arent cool you are back to square one.

And you might not find a cool doctor.



Exactly what happened to me.


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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
    #23888811 - 12/02/16 08:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Again the only thing that they all keep track of is the prescription of scheduled drugs you have been prescribed.

If you go to a doc and ask for some sort of narcotic script they will be able to look you up and see if you have/had any other scripts prescribed.

Other than that the docs only know what you share with them or what you allow to be shared by other docs.


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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #23889003 - 12/02/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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BANANA.MAN said:
Quote:

badchad said:
I suppose if it really affected the relationship with your physician, get a new doctor.  Pretty simple.



If the doctor had a problem with it then they would put it on your record. So as soon as you get to the new doctor, if they arent cool you are back to square one.

And you might not find a cool doctor.




So, I'm actually curious... is there a nationwide database where any doctor of any type can pull up these records about you, once there IS a written record about you?

What if you change your insurance carrier or legally change your name, can they still find these records? Is it based on your social security numbers or what?

What if you travel to a new doctor out of county or out of state, can they still pull up these records about you?

Do these records ever expire after a certain number of years?


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Re: Do you guys tell your doctor you use drugs? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23889019 - 12/02/16 09:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Pretty sure you need to green light any information transfer because of HIPPA.


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