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Thetookourjobs
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Hey guy, what's this red stuff?
#23885535 - 12/01/16 07:14 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hi guys, long time reader, first time caller. So I've got these red dots popping up in one of my jars. I guess the question is to toss or not to toss... I'm thinking it's just bruised but I could be terribly wrong and can't seem to find a good answer. Thanks in advanced.
Kim Jong ill

Just threw this one in to show what my cakes look like in general. We want to look at these two pictures below here.

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no0bsawse
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I am not good at detecting contams yet, but that last picture doesn't look good to me. I would still wait for someone more experienced to call it before you toss tho.
I'm sure you've read this a thousand times already, but seriously bro, do yourself a favor and use 1/2 pint wide mouth jars. They have consistently better results all around.
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Thetookourjobs
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Re: Hey guy, what's this red stuff? [Re: no0bsawse]
#23885592 - 12/01/16 07:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I know I know. Couldn't find the stubbies at Can. Tire, so I'm using these bassackwards things. Thanks for the tip though. 100% applying this suggestion next time, it's a pretty ubiquitous spec.
As for the red; I think I may sit on hem a little longer till: a @?????!!b) I figure it out myself (unlikely), or c) a wise forum dweller can diagnose the issue and give me a recommendation.... which will likely to be "toss it"
Kji
Edited by Thetookourjobs (12/01/16 07:59 PM)
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Tmethyl
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There are pink and red molds, but they are so much more pronounced than this. In fact Neurospora looks nothing like this really, how did it look while it was colonizing? Do you have any earlier photos of this jar?
Not supposed to leave the foil on as it can lead to moisture entering the dry verm layer, and contams can creep down into the cake.
For now, I would personally keep this one away from any others and possibly make a cheap little fruiting chamber out of a 2 liter or something, just to try and fruit it away from less suspicious cakes(outside of normal growing area).
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no0bsawse
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Quote:
Thetookourjobs said: I know I know. Couldn't find the stubbies at Can. Tire, so I'm using these bassackwards things. Thanks for the tip though. 100% applying this suggestion next time, it's a pretty ubiquitous spec.
As for the red; I think I may sit on hem a little longer till: a) someone tells me what I'm dealing with, b) I figure it out myself (unlikely), or c) a wise forum dweller can diagnose the issue and give me a recommendation.... which will likely to be "toss it"
Kji
Amazon will get them to you in 2 days for cheap as fuck.
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Thetookourjobs
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Re: Hey guy, what's this red stuff? [Re: Tmethyl]
#23885652 - 12/01/16 07:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm looking at the rest of these jars and quite a few of them have a slight ting of pinkish/red to it. But there were a couple issues that seem to have resolved themselves during colonization. Some dark spots appearing where the syringe entered the jar -

This spot is the worst one of the initial discolouration and the rest have grown over my the mycelium.
Noob sauce- immediately after posting that I couldn't get them there was an amazon add for .5 pint at the bottom of the page lol.
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no0bsawse
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Haha, I hate that. I actually posted in another forum earlier in the week like "holy shit amazon def. knows I'm growing plz halp."
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Thetookourjobs
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Re: Hey guy, what's this red stuff? [Re: no0bsawse]
#23885684 - 12/01/16 08:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Okay, last thing for now...
Tmethyl mentioned the tin foil on the top from preventing the moisture from escaping. Well I just opened a jar to see if anything funny was happening because of this and found this:
 Don't think those are supposed to be there.
Just a disclaimer: I've done this twice before. I feel like I've got a slight handle on it but there's so much fucking information out there and so little time to do read it all. So I appreciate the help.
Edited by Thetookourjobs (12/01/16 08:14 PM)
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RanSed
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Hi there, first time grower here so take my advice with a grain of salt, but I've done a LOT of reading and am also growing my first set of jars as well. But from what I have found on multiple different sites including this one, if there is ANY variation from "cloud white" it is most probably mold. What you have on the top layer there is definitely mold, the Mycelium is supposed to be all white and "Ropey" not necessarily Wispy and cottony. Here's a pic of one of my jars that has the "rope" look.
Also, if you haven't yet I recommend you watch Willy_Myco on youtube/instagram. He has a "Trip team grow" that he started last month and its a three part video that explains every single step of the process and is very informative. It's about 2 and a half hours and drags on a bit but it is very educational.
Again I'm pretty new, but I've spent the last two or three months purusing forums and gathering as much knowledge as possible and you're right there is a LOT. Any veteran growers, by all means correct me if I'm wrong.

Also, this is that same jar side view.
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Re: Hey guy, what's this red stuff? [Re: RanSed]
#23888034 - 12/02/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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OP you have fusarium. I personally would be tossing it, there's been reports of people getting health problems from it, even relatively healthy people with a prolonged exposure. How many jars have this? All of them? If so your syringe is straight fucked.
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Thetookourjobs
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Re: Hey guy, what's this red stuff? [Re: Mad Season]
#23889394 - 12/02/16 11:38 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks Mad.
I appreciate the knowledge. Unfortunately, all of my jars look like this. I'm going to try again and see what kinds of results I get. I've read that inoculating around wood cabinets could be an issue, which I am, but who knows. I'll look up the fungus further.
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PsychedelicLion
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I agree with Mad Season it is Fusarium spp. I assume you used a grain tek. Fusariums are most common in grains and yes they do produce mycotoxins that can have detrimental effects on your health. Toss them and improve your sterilisation before inoculating.
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no0bsawse
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Dude, that fungus is a bad muthafucka. Look it up. Idk about you, but seriously, I would trash all those jars with the cakes and do not open. Sterilize the area they were.
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Thetookourjobs
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Re: Hey guy, what's this red stuff? [Re: no0bsawse]
#23889619 - 12/03/16 03:03 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I did not use grain tek, it was a BRF substrate.
Now to the important part. I've opened it and come into contact with it and breathed some of it in looking to see if I could smell good mycelium growth... probably a massive rookie mistake. From what I've read, thee are many types of fusarium species and not all are deadly but some are when ingested. Needless to say I will NOT be perusing this cultivation any further.
Insure hope it's not the syringes, I want to have another go at these bad boys!
Jong illin'
Edited by Thetookourjobs (12/03/16 03:04 AM)
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Mad Season
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If you're a healthy adult with a decent immune system and didn't have prolonged exposure (talking about a long period of living with it in open air), then you have absolutely nothing to worry about.
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PsychedelicLion
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Then it will be from the flour still a sterilisation problem.
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Mad Season
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Shit dies at 130F for 30 minutes, if you boil for 60 minutes, there will be no fusarium in there. It means it was introduced after sterilization. Since it's in so many jars and in the middle of the jars near the inoc points, I'd put money down that it came from his syringe.
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