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Gabriel mushroom
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Psilocybe Cyanescens strains?
#23884335 - 12/01/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I live in the UK and am keeping an eye out for Psilocybe Cyanescens because I missed the best part of liberty cap season. I read somewhere the mention of a particular strain of the P. Cyanescens, St. Clair, however this is the only mention of a distinct P. Cyanescens strain that I have found anywhere. I was wondering if anybody happened to know of other P. Cyanescens strains and have pictures of them, as i'm interested in the potential variety and think that a knowledge of variations will help me find them. If there are notably distinct strains like there are with Cubensis I would like to collect the varying spores.
Also on a more general note, if you could give me any tips for finding P. Cyanescens I would greatly appreciate it as i haven't found any yet despite thoroughly searching ideal habitats (decomposing, fallen alder trees around forests and rivers). There has recently been a massive drop in temperature so it seems ideal for them to be around now. The only issue is that it has been relatively dry, and in the morning everything is covered in ice. I'm hoping it will rain a bit and that will make it humid enough for them to come out, do you think there is more of a chance after rain? Do I have to wait for it to get properly rainy before I can successfully find them? I have looked for them in residential areas too. I have spores and if I don't find any I'll have to grow them but I've just become interested in growing shrooms and have no experience at all, so I'd prefer to find some and practise growing Cubensis before trying Cyanescens outside.
Thanks for your time.
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Yours is the first mention I've ever heard of so-called "strains" of Psilocybe cyanescens.
Originally, the term "strain" has been used to label specific cultivars, apparently based on genetic traits or perhaps to state the geographic area where a cloned wild specimen was originally found.
I'm not aware that people cultivating wood loving species have adopted this tradition. Seems to me (like a lot of other people will tell you) that the naming of "strains" is mostly used as a marketing tool for selling P. cubensis spores and grow kits.
To find P. cyanescens you should check man-made mulch beds rather than natural woodlands.
You may find this thread to be helpful.
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shotti
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanescens strains? [Re: Anglerfish]
#23885760 - 12/01/16 08:40 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think north american cyans are a bit different to UK ones but UK cyans are all the same. Here are some I found in a park flower bed.



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WhyDidiDoThis
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanescens strains? [Re: shotti]
#23885823 - 12/01/16 09:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Those Cyans look like my American cyans.
I was just talking to smilingpoitely about genetic traits. I ponder if these Cyans Wil keep this shape next flush. Though it could be it's habitat or age with its distinct umbo.

[url=https://files.shroomery.org/files/16-48/047596799-azzt_4.jpg] [/url
It would be sweet if this is a species variant in its genetics. That carried om
Edited by WhyDidiDoThis (12/01/16 09:03 PM)
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TheDuder
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There isn't too much variation in Cyanescens, In my experience it seems they can appear differently due to environmental differences or just the health of the patch.
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|--------------[Ps. Ovoideocystidiata]------------------------------------------[Ps. Stuntzii]--------------------------------------------[Ps. Baeocystis]----------------------|
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Quote:
WhyDidiDoThis said: Those Cyans look like my American cyans.
I was just talking to smilingpoitely about genetic traits. I ponder if these Cyans Wil keep this shape next flush. Though it could be it's habitat or age with its distinct umbo.

[url=https://files.shroomery.org/files/16-48/047596799-azzt_4.jpg] [/url
It would be sweet if this is a species variant in its genetics. That carried om
Here, I fixed your image so it can be viewed properly.
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanescens strains? [Re: inski]
#24007740 - 01/13/17 04:39 PM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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Isn't that azurescens? Doesn't seem like a wavy cap to me at all. I'm no expert.
Also, I've heard that European are different from American cyans - European mycelium is less white and it's more resistant to drying (makes sense). At least that's what my friend told me, he cultivates the European cyans.
Edited by Adas (01/14/17 09:39 AM)
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanescens strains? [Re: shotti]
#24010238 - 01/14/17 04:29 PM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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Quote:
shotti said: I think north american cyans are a bit different to UK ones but UK cyans are all the same. Here are some I found in a park flower bed.




Last two pics look like ovoids.
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanescens strains? [Re: Adden]
#24010884 - 01/14/17 09:24 PM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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I've found plenty of cyans that look like that.
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanescens strains? [Re: Hamra]
#24011110 - 01/15/17 12:00 AM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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P. allenii used to be considered a "strain" of cyanescens, so to speak. Overall, it evokes the perpetual question in biology of "how different is enough to be called something else?"
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