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Re: LSD vs. Shrooms [Re: OliverJames]
    #23880816 - 11/30/16 07:19 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Having said that, at around 300ug L becomes much deeper and more spiritual in my experience




I agree, LSD is far more introspective and powerful mentally than what a lot of people think. It has shattered my perception of life many times. Its far more manageable than mushrooms but I wouldnt say its any less powerful. 300ug is a strong dose that can have potential to send someone off in their heads. I find the thought process on LSD to be far more frantic and almost like a running pattern simulator in your brain that constantly sees connections in everything. Where mushrooms are more you feel the connection and analyze yourself rather everything around you.


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Re: LSD vs. Shrooms [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #23881549 - 11/30/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Do both...combo! ....start low and work up...:firstladyofapproval:

it's really the best of both worlds! :aweyeah:




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Re: LSD vs. Shrooms [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23881579 - 11/30/16 01:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I agree, LSD is far more introspective and powerful mentally than what a lot of people think. It has shattered my perception of life many times. Its far more manageable than mushrooms but I wouldnt say its any less powerful. 300ug is a strong dose that can have potential to send someone off in their heads. I find the thought process on LSD to be far more frantic and almost like a running pattern simulator in your brain that constantly sees connections in everything. Where mushrooms are more you feel the connection and analyze yourself rather everything around you.




I guess technically saying mushrooms are more "powerful" than LSD may not be necessarily true since they are both very very powerful and in different ways. LSD is powerful in ways that seem more long term I find.
So maybe saying mushrooms are more powerful wouldn't be correct but I think it's definitely the more mind-altering drug. LSD definitely affects the mind very much, I'd actually say overall LSD tripping is more mental and 'thoughty' than shrooms but I still think it's less altering. It's not as intense of a displacement from ordinary consciousness as shrooms seem to be.

I think LSD is actually more introspective than mushrooms and I've definitely become more introspective myself since doing it but mushroom tripping is just even more unexplainable and absurd ime.

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Re: LSD vs. Shrooms [Re: FatalPatronus]
    #23881818 - 11/30/16 02:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I don't really see why most people see LSD as only recreational. I personally find both LSD and shrooms both really spiritual, they just give a different experience. Shrooms tend be much more intense though, at least for me.

LSD will show me the fabrics of existence, and the reality that's around us all the time but that we can just never see.  Whereas shrooms will just completely push me into that other reality, making the hallucinations a lot different.

On LSD my hallucinations tend to just be distortions of what's actually in front of me in real life. Whereas with the shrooms I'm having full blown hallucinations were I'm seeing, hearing, and feeling things that are completely separate from anything in this reality if that makes any sense.

Another couple of differences is that on LSD I can usually keep a pretty controlled rational mind that always keeps me semi grounded. Whereas on shrooms I tend to get alot more mindfuck, will forget I'm on a drug, and then  if I'm not careful I end up usually having myself convinced I've gone completely crazy and will be stuck like that forever.

I experience moments of eternity on both LSD and shrooms, but they tend to be much more profound and happen more often on shrooms.

Lastly LSD seems to enhance and distort my five senses a lot more, while shrooms just bring out my sixth. What I mean by that is that on LSD I can taste colors, see sounds, music sounds way better etc. while with shrooms I can feel people's spiritual auras, become alot more sensitive to energies around me, and have very intense deja vu accompanied with memories of what I believe to be past lives.

They're both amazing in their own way. One isn't really better than the other, it just sort of depends on what kindve experience you prefer.

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Re: LSD vs. Shrooms [Re: UniverseOfTheMind8]
    #23882054 - 11/30/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think people are saying you can only use LSD recreationally I think they just mean if you're gonna use one for recreation it might as well be LSD at least most of the time.

Also I find it odd that all these people are claiming to get more powerful synesthesia from LSD than from mushrooms. I get pretty decent synesthesia from L but I tend to get VERY intense synesthesia from mushrooms even in low doses and it seems to cover a broader spectrum in terms of the 5/6 senses. For example on LSD I may hear colors or taste colors, see music ect. but on shrooms I can sometimes smell emotions or taste feelings. Very weird stuff.

LSD also seemed more about energies and "auras" to me than shrooms did. Shrooms seem more transdimensional to me and seems to deal less with this world and its energies.
LSD feels like I'm just getting my third eye cracked open but shrooms feels like some primeval alien plant spirit opened my third eye and is guiding my soul to the end of this life or just the previous universe.

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Re: LSD vs. Shrooms [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23882665 - 11/30/16 06:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I agree, LSD is far more introspective and powerful mentally than what a lot of people think. It has shattered my perception of life many times. Its far more manageable than mushrooms but I wouldnt say its any less powerful. 300ug is a strong dose that can have potential to send someone off in their heads. I find the thought process on LSD to be far more frantic and almost like a running pattern simulator in your brain that constantly sees connections in everything. Where mushrooms are more you feel the connection and analyze yourself rather everything around you.




I guess technically saying mushrooms are more "powerful" than LSD may not be necessarily true since they are both very very powerful and in different ways. LSD is powerful in ways that seem more long term I find.
So maybe saying mushrooms are more powerful wouldn't be correct but I think it's definitely the more mind-altering drug. LSD definitely affects the mind very much, I'd actually say overall LSD tripping is more mental and 'thoughty' than shrooms but I still think it's less altering. It's not as intense of a displacement from ordinary consciousness as shrooms seem to be.

I think LSD is actually more introspective than mushrooms and I've definitely become more introspective myself since doing it but mushroom tripping is just even more unexplainable and absurd ime.



Mushrooms are for sure a more mind altering drug in my experiences. I find it a lot easier to have ego dissolution with mushrooms in medium doses where LSD for me I have almost always remained myself in my body tripping hard. Few times eating over 600 to 800 mics had me losing all idea of being alive in a body on earth. Tho an eighth of good mushrooms can have me doing the same.
There is a lot of introspection on both drugs but LSD is far more fast paced where mushrooms have that odd alien like thought process where you analyze things but the sense you make of it is so inhuman sometimes that you wonder how you even think of these connections. Both are very strong and very different in their own ways.


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Re: LSD vs. Shrooms [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23882752 - 11/30/16 07:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yes and I think it's fairly accurate how some people describe LSD as more stable and continuous whereas mushrooms seem much more dynamic and many describe a mushroom experience as constantly being on the fence between a good and bad trip, though that may not be literally true I still see what they mean it's like on mushrooms your general mood (and thoughts) have a more wavering tendency, it seems to have a more oscillating effect on your mental faculties and perceptions.

I saw the Drugslab video on youtube (highly recommend that channel btw) where the guy ate mushrooms (because they try a new drug each week) and he seemed to be having this up and down effect or strange oscillating tendency where he seemed to be going back and forth or at least saw the potential for going back and forth between a happy or scary trip within matters of seconds.

Shrooms are more dramatic than LSD in that sense to the point of being almost theatrical about it.
He talked about how Mushrooms put him in a very happy but extremely sensitive and vulnerable mood and was saying how he felt happy but that if he saw something scary in that moment it could just take him over and make everything darker like if he saw a scary face or something, his mood and emotions were just prone to change at any moment to literally any kind of extreme.

Though this effect of your mood dramatically changing based on simply seeing something like a scary face may be present on acid as well it's just not anywhere near to the extent of psilocybin I believe.
On acid you might overanalyze things and get trapped in negative thought loops but on shrooms all your emotions just come out like a shadow, with shrooms it's more of like a fight or flight scenario and sudden scariness and even terror but on acid it's just like "Fuck I can't escape my own mind which is persecuting me".

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Re: LSD vs. Shrooms [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23884323 - 12/01/16 12:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I agree with the notion that a shroom trip is more of a roller coaster ride than an LSD trip. In my experience, once I hit a certain point on the come up of LSD I sort of just stay there. "There" is a pretty wild and crazy place of course, but I still remain at that point throughout until its time to come down.

On shrooms there are more strikes and gutters, ups and downs. I'll be tripping major ballsack for maybe 15 mins and then it slows down a bit, then speeds up again. I'll be consumed with joy on second and sorrow the next. A lot of it changes with my setting while tripping, and it gets less predictable the higher the dose. I usually do around 5Gs, but at 7Gs and up its just a complete mindfuck the entire time...maybe its actually more predictable in that sense.

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Re: LSD vs. Shrooms [Re: xThunder]
    #23884701 - 12/01/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I definitely agree with that. On LSD as soon as I hit the peak I usually feel I can relax  and at that point know what to relatively expect for the rest of the trip even if I do change settings. Where with the shrooms the intensity and the vibe of the trip can easily completely change at any time, sometimes for seemingly no reason. It definitely seems to speed up and down randomly as you said, and I noticed a lot of the times when that happens It's like the whole trip resets and becomes something almost completely new.

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Re: LSD vs. Shrooms [Re: xThunder]
    #23884860 - 12/01/16 03:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I agree with the notion that a shroom trip is more of a roller coaster ride than an LSD trip. In my experience, once I hit a certain point on the come up of LSD I sort of just stay there. "There" is a pretty wild and crazy place of course, but I still remain at that point throughout until its time to come down.

On shrooms there are more strikes and gutters, ups and downs. I'll be tripping major ballsack for maybe 15 mins and then it slows down a bit, then speeds up again. I'll be consumed with joy on second and sorrow the next. A lot of it changes with my setting while tripping, and it gets less predictable the higher the dose. I usually do around 5Gs, but at 7Gs and up its just a complete mindfuck the entire time...maybe its actually more predictable in that sense.





mushrooms are always an up down, crazy intense ride (at higher doses for me). One moment I will feel like a god, the next moment I will feel suicidally depressed and then I will feel like a god again. It taught me to take life the same way, when things look really bleak you shouldn't give up because they might turn around in the most unexpected way. With LSD, I find that once it plateaus the effect is much more steady and that is part of what makes it more recreational. You can go to music festivals and stuff and still maintain control.


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Re: LSD vs. Shrooms [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23885042 - 12/01/16 04:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

YES Peyote I've had that exact same lesson from the mushies. They show you that sadness, fear, anger, excitement, amusement and happiness are all simply choices the individual chooses to attach themselves to in the moment because in reality nothing outside of yourself triggers your emotions only yourself.
Mushrooms like to show you how just your thoughts alone can take you to states of extreme happiness and bliss or utter hopelessness and depression, it's all about your perspective in that moment.

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