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Re: Growing up as a rich kid. [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #23886904 - 12/02/16 08:54 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Growing up with money made me realize life isnt about money and to be happy and thankful for the little things.

Why do you guys think its ok to be grateful and poor but not grateful and rich?

Just because i grew up with money means i cant appreciate the little things?



I agree one can be grateful and rich (monetarily). I am not knocking you at all, you are just luckier than most people.:shrug:





The thing is though..im really not lucky. Well I am but not without consequences

I was born with hepatitis C which causes me to have such low energy i cant work. I also suffered mental abuse from my parents who were heroin and crack users who would leave for days on end. I would be up all night praying they would come home safe. I had my own brother die when i was just 16...etc

It all balances out with me. I may have been lucky to have a little bit of money but its because i was born NEEDING that money. If i was forced to work for everything and i didnt have a thing at birth then i would be living on the streets probably dead.

So yeah..like i said it all balances out.


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Re: Growing up as a rich kid. [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #23886908 - 12/02/16 08:56 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Growing up with money made me realize life isnt about money and to be happy and thankful for the little things.

Why do you guys think its ok to be grateful and poor but not grateful and rich?

Just because i grew up with money means i cant appreciate the little things?



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Re: Growing up as a rich kid. [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #23886924 - 12/02/16 09:06 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:
Growing up with money made me realize life isnt about money and to be happy and thankful for the little things.

Why do you guys think its ok to be grateful and poor but not grateful and rich?

Just because i grew up with money means i cant appreciate the little things?



I agree one can be grateful and rich (monetarily). I am not knocking you at all, you are just luckier than most people.:shrug:





The thing is though..im really not lucky. Well I am but not without consequences

I was born with hepatitis C which causes me to have such low energy i cant work. I also suffered mental abuse from my parents who were heroin and crack users who would leave for days on end. I would be up all night praying they would come home safe. I had my own brother die when i was just 16...etc

It all balances out with me. I may have been lucky to have a little bit of money but its because i was born NEEDING that money. If i was forced to work for everything and i didnt have a thing at birth then i would be living on the streets probably dead.

So yeah..like i said it all balances out.



Well damn! You had it as bad as some poorer people have it seems. I don't disagree that having money has its own unique set of "problems".


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Re: Growing up as a rich kid. [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #23886938 - 12/02/16 09:12 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

It's also quite different if you are in a 3rd world country. where the income gap is very wide.

Alot of my friends or people I know are born poor and do not have the means to get out of poverty, because even if public education is affordable to them there parents usually pull them out so that they can work full-time hauling rice or selling vegetables.

For them going to Mcdonalds is like going to a fine dinning establisment.

Most of my friends do not even want me to go to there house or even the area that they live in, but eventually I warmed up to them.


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Re: Growing up as a rich kid. [Re: pineninja]
    #23887541 - 12/02/16 01:05 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I fail to see my contradiction.

Care to point it out for me?


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Re: Growing up as a rich kid. [Re: TNK]
    #23887559 - 12/02/16 01:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

"Money can buy you lots and lots of things, maybe not true happiness but it can buy a whole lot of shit. I can promise you if I woke up tomorrow with 10,000,000$ in my bank account, I would be far happier tomorrow than I am tonight. "
You're arguing with yourself.
And this.
"You are right, money can't buy happiness, but it can really make it easier to achieve happiness."
What does that mean?


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Re: Growing up as a rich kid. [Re: pineninja]
    #23887596 - 12/02/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Bills and money or lack thereof is easily the thing that I think stresses most people out the most around the world. Being able to provide for yourself, your family, and live comfortably(at it's most BASIC level for so much of the world, as in..a roof over your head type of comfort) is number 1 on a lot of people's plates. The fact that we are a culture of debt adds to this stress. The fact that so many people around our country will NEVER pay off their debt before they die is scary and stressful.

Having the luxury of being able to eliminate that stress from your life is invaluable and those that are able to should be so extremely grateful and imo, have a moral responsibility to channel that time and energy(and yes, if not time or energy than money) not spent worrying about putting food on the table, how you're going to pay your rent, the mountains of debt you are trying to not leave your children, if you'll even have a job this time next year, or what will happen if you get sick and are underinsured or not insured at all - and try and give that back to the world in some capacity. And it's true, many rich people are incredible philanthropists, as they absolutely should be - and even if you're solidly middle class or have a safety net of parents who will swoop in and help you out if shit ever gets REALLY bad, you are so so sooo much luckier than so many other people in the country, let the alone places where people struggle just to survive, and I think most of us posting on this site in general have a moral and perhaps karmic responsibility to ease the mass suffering of those less fortunate even if in some, small way.


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Re: Growing up as a rich kid. [Re: pineninja]
    #23887650 - 12/02/16 01:38 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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"Money can buy you lots and lots of things, maybe not true happiness but it can buy a whole lot of shit. I can promise you if I woke up tomorrow with 10,000,000$ in my bank account, I would be far happier tomorrow than I am tonight. "
You're arguing with yourself.
And this.
"You are right, money can't buy happiness, but it can really make it easier to achieve happiness."
What does that mean?




You're missing the True Happiness. Hapiness that isn't fleeting. I'd be damned if I saw someone win the lottery and not smile a bit.

Achieve happiness, what does it sound like? Did you read my post? Providing for my family, my loved ones, being able to put my mom in a nice house with a yard, pay my grandmothers medical bills, put my little brother through college- if I could do those things I would be immensely happy- money makes all those things possible that no amount of hugging or daily meditation can.


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Re: Growing up as a rich kid. [Re: TNK]
    #23887683 - 12/02/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Some don't enter the lottery for fear of winning it, it's been known to destroy lives aswell.
I have lived a life in which everything I don't have I earnt no headstarts.
Providing for your family is not wrong by any means, thinking the lottery will make your life better, is.


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Re: Growing up as a rich kid. [Re: pineninja]
    #23887689 - 12/02/16 01:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Providing for your family is not wrong by any means, thinking the lottery will make your life better, is.




... what if you used your lottery winnings to provide for your family?


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Re: Growing up as a rich kid. [Re: falsereality]
    #23887712 - 12/02/16 01:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

What if you saved your money by not buying a ticket and taking comfort that sometimes the hardest earnt happiness is also the most valuable.


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Re: Growing up as a rich kid. [Re: pineninja]
    #23887718 - 12/02/16 02:01 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I've now had a solid 5 minutes of total trance like slack jaw over your avatar btw.:rockon:


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Re: Growing up as a rich kid. [Re: pineninja]
    #23887776 - 12/02/16 02:14 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

It's a analogy, not meant to be taken literally. 

Okay, what if you start a company and after two days of success you get an offer from someone to buy the company for millions of dollars? Again, an analogy.

All I am saying is providing for my family is what I care about; I could give a rats ass if the money came from the lottery or my burger flipping day job.


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Re: Growing up as a rich kid. [Re: TNK]
    #23887782 - 12/02/16 02:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

And I'm not advocating you buy the lottery; but what I am saying is if one day I bought a 5$ ticket and won 5 million dollars, or something- then I would be much happier than if I put that 5$ into a savings account.

You are kind of missing the point, what good is working to your bone to provide for your family if you only get to see them for an hour every day; then spend the rest of your life working to provide for them- if you came into a large sum of money you could spend every day and every hour with your family.

Like Akira said earlier; you don't buy happiness, you spend it.


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Re: Growing up as a rich kid. [Re: TNK]
    #23887850 - 12/02/16 02:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not missing the point.
What if after this windfall you found yourself still unhappy? where would you look too next too find happiness?
My guess would be turning to those things you had pre win because the money ain't gonna buy you love and respect that humbly provinding for your family always wouldve.


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Re: Growing up as a rich kid. [Re: pineninja] * 1
    #23887966 - 12/02/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I grew up comfortably.  I won't say rich because we weren't rich, my parents probably made $100,000 a year Combined, but when you've got three children that's not rich...

I grew up entitled though however, and I know that it took some growing up to do to realize how entitled I had been as a youth.  I realize now, living paycheck to paycheck with a 4.0GPA and an associates in chemistry that's got me nowhere and a fucked up back due to construction, the world doesn't give a fuck about your social position, and it'll slam you to the ground no matter how entitled you are if you don't take responsibility for yourself...


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I'm not missing the point.
What if after this windfall you found yourself still unhappy? where would you look too next too find happiness?
My guess would be turning to those things you had pre win because the money ain't gonna buy you love and respect that humbly provinding for your family always wouldve.





There's actually a little truth to both sides.  While you're right, money can't just buy you happiness, being financially unstable- worrying you're going to lose the roof over your head, wondering how you're going to feed yourself (or if you have children, how you're going to take care of them)... you're not going to be happy either.  In that situation yes Money will help you become happy, because it will help you balance your financial situation out in order for you to concentrate on the things that Do make you happy, rather than worry about the things that drag you down.


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Re: Growing up as a rich kid. [Re: Crystal G]
    #23888003 - 12/02/16 03:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Matresses are overrated, same shit as sleeping on the floor.

Not that im all about living in squalor for the sake of strangers, just dont think a matress is all that important.




It's really, really not. Japanese people sleep on the floor, and it's one thing that I disliked about living there. Mattresses are much more comfortable.

Put it on the floor by all means and go without a duvet and bed cover and all that, but at least have something comfortable to lay on.




This. 

Having slept on deserted beaches(all in all it adds up to well over years time).  Tent cots are awesome. Double stack high inflatable queen size mattresses are even better especially the newest one that inflates itself... $70 well spent.  Fyi anyone that thinks sleeping on/in sand overnight is going to be fun..it's not.


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Re: Growing up as a rich kid. [Re: pinedownpioneer]
    #23888019 - 12/02/16 03:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I like money I use it to buy lots of cool shit that I use to do things I find life enhancing like travel, catching sharks, spearfishing, hunting, building/creating stuff, droogs.  Someday I'll use money to start my farm and rarely have to go to the grocery store ever again because most people in there repulse me.


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Re: Growing up as a rich kid. [Re: pinedownpioneer]
    #23888031 - 12/02/16 03:41 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

OP you sound like you were well off but I wasn't too different... I had plenty of video games as well :yesnod: Still, other kids at my middle school and high school somehow came off as being way more affluent then me. Compared to them I felt muuuuch more middle class, which is weird cause even they weren't thaaaat rich. Some were probably millionaires though. Anyways it just goes to show, it's all relative.


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Re: Growing up as a rich kid. [Re: pinedownpioneer]
    #23888032 - 12/02/16 03:41 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I'm just happy knowing I can be happy with nothing but the clothes on my back a full stomach and a place to rest.


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