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Bill_Oreilly
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When i say chasing i mean obsessing over it
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Deathby69
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Bill_Oreilly said: You guys can say whatever you want..call me and sara a trusty..and so on
But its just the truth. When you grow up having money you realize the inner workings of how greed and money chasing is pointless.
Im not saying it in a spoiled way..its just i cant help but to believe money isnt to be desired to the point in runs your life.
I believe in a lot of cases that God chooses the right people to grow up with money. The universe/god knows who is worthy of the money and who isnt.
A wise man once said.."you get what you deserve..thats the way it works"
You are the .5~1 out of 10.....
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moonrockmushy
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Bill_Oreilly said: When i say chasing i mean obsessing over it
Very few people enjoy obsessing over money. The idea that you need to have money to realize that money isn't everything is just absurd and paradoxical.
People who obsess about money for the most part need to obsess about money because their happiness or even survival does depend on it. I'm not going to say you need to have been broke before to understand this, but some people who have never been broke clearly don't.
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Bill_Oreilly
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spirit_shadow said:
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Bill_Oreilly said: You guys can say whatever you want..call me and sara a trusty..and so on
But its just the truth. When you grow up having money you realize the inner workings of how greed and money chasing is pointless.
Im not saying it in a spoiled way..its just i cant help but to believe money isnt to be desired to the point in runs your life.
I believe in a lot of cases that God chooses the right people to grow up with money. The universe/god knows who is worthy of the money and who isnt.
A wise man once said.."you get what you deserve..thats the way it works"
You are the .5~1 out of 10.....
I don't get what you mean
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Bill_Oreilly
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moonrockmushy said:
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Bill_Oreilly said: When i say chasing i mean obsessing over it
Very few people enjoy obsessing over money. The idea that you need to have money to realize that money isn't everything is just absurd and paradoxical.
People who obsess about money for the most part need to obsess about money because their happiness or even survival does depend on it. I'm not going to say you need to have been broke before to understand this, but some people who have never been broke clearly don't.
Ya i agree with that . kinda
People who were broke then earned a ton of money still obsess over it though and act as if they still need to bust ass for it. Its like a drug to them.
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Bill_Oreilly said:
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spirit_shadow said:
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Bill_Oreilly said: You guys can say whatever you want..call me and sara a trusty..and so on
But its just the truth. When you grow up having money you realize the inner workings of how greed and money chasing is pointless.
Im not saying it in a spoiled way..its just i cant help but to believe money isnt to be desired to the point in runs your life.
I believe in a lot of cases that God chooses the right people to grow up with money. The universe/god knows who is worthy of the money and who isnt.
A wise man once said.."you get what you deserve..thats the way it works"
You are the .5~1 out of 10.....
I don't get what you mean
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A wise man once said.."you get what you deserve..thats the way it works"
A wise man once drank too much if that's what he said.
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I grew up dirt poor. Well, my early childhood when my parents were still married we were middle class I guess (in the 80s) I knew my parents struggled with monies but we still had everything we needed pretty much, aside from a stable emotional childhood LOL
They got divorced when I was 6 and it was all downhill from there. My mom got custody and ended up raising 3 kids on her own, while working full time, and going to college to become a nurse. I give my mom mad props even though I was a nightmare. She was hardcore. Juggling school, full time job and 3 kids.. I don't know how the fuck she did it honestly. But we were living on food stamps... lived in the ghetto in section 8 housing. Lived on and off with my dad and he was just a wreck.. worked his fucking ass off as a contractor but never had any money because he's absolutely terrible with it and devalues all his work so that he gets the job and has terrible spending habits to top it all off.
Anyway I didn't want to end up like my dad. I escaped the family when I was 16, spent the next 6 years or so fucking around and traveling. I actually lived much better on my own and with friends, got myself a nice job and car before I was 18, I was already making pretty good bank by the time my friends graduated high school. Well getting thrown in jail for almost a year for a gram of pot didn't help matters and ended up getting fucked by the long arm of the law because I had a public pretender. Money helps in those situations. But yeah I was homeless for about 3 years or so, off and on after that. Partially by choice and partially circumstance.. (losing everything you own and no family to help doesn't help matters) I traveled all over the US, I've been homeless in like 8 states lol. I got some help from friends on the road. Many shroomerites actually. I've stayed with at least like 10 different shroomerites at one point or another, they helped me out when I was in a bad spot. I dropped out of high school. Probably more well educated than most of my college friends though, lol.
Went into computers because that's been my passion since I was like... 5 years old dicking around with Commodore 64s and shit Now in my mid 30s and have a solid career in IT with endless room for growth, making a pretty nice salary, have a little family of my own, and finally have money. But I think back to all those times when I was struggling as fuck, starving, and you call your parents for help and they are like sorry. I like having money. Money equals security. I can live just fine without money.. and have done it.. but it's fucking hard, man.
Having a ton of problems and no money - fucking sucks Having a ton of problems and a bunch of money - not so suck
Example. When my insurance lapsed while I was in jail, VA suspended my license. When they suspend your license it costed like $500 to reinstate it, plus you have to get SR-22 (high risk - super high cost) insurance for the next 3 years. Only I was in Florida at the time... so when I got bailed out and then pulled over the next day and they saw my license was suspended, Florida put like a double suspension on it or some shit.. so I had to pay Florida like $1200 before I could even pay VA back and get my license. So like $2K to get my license back, only now I was homeless and lost everything I owned, had to sell my car just to get the fuck out of that state. Took me like 2 1/2 years to fully recover from that shit and get back on my feet. But I did it on my own. I went from absolutely nothing and built up a life for myself... couple times actually.
But overall, I didn't really get help from anybody. I had to work for pretty much everything I ever had. I mean I did for sure get a helping hand from friends here and there, but I never had anything handed to me on a platter like some people. I don't regret one bit of it. It made me who I am, I believe I am much stronger willed and persistent because of it.
Money and debt... it's a stupid fucking system and needs to be abolished for something better. But while we have it, money is just energy.. it's a useful tool.. and if you want to live in society, or live at all.. having money is a fuck of a lot better than not having any. I can tell you from experience. The thing is when you are struggling for survival that's ALL you can focus on, hard to pursue your goals and dreams in that state. When you have money, you don't really think about stupid shit like food, water, having a nice bed to sleep in, AC/heat... the bills getting paid.. all these nice things we take for granted. Rich people problems are not poor people problems.
Don't get me wrong though, I appreciate nice things.. like cars Obsession over money is bad. But I take pride in working hard to help achieve my goals and make enough to support my family and still have toys. There's a balance to be had.. Anyway if you become super rich it is your moral duty to like, either help people or overthrow a government or something.
Anyway, when I was poor and homeless... I was traveling all over the country on nothing... always wishing I had money to splurge on a feast or nice hotel or whatever. Now I have the money to do all that stuff... only no time to travel, LOL
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Re: Growing up as a rich kid. [Re: Shroomism]
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started at the bottom now im kinduff in the middle..
I definitely count my blessings.. Never really been completely broke, nor have been very rich, but ive gotten a taste of what its like to be broke and homeless, and no family around or anything and it can def be a very lonely place to be. Its not that hard to figure out, if uve ever been broke or shit out of luck, dont matter if it was just for a little while or u were only short a few bucks, times it by 10 or even 100 and ull get the end results if ure smart enough.. U dont have suffer alot to know what suffering is, is what im saying..
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Re: Growing up as a rich kid. [Re: zZZz] 1
#23886109 - 12/01/16 10:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bill and Sara do have a point. What they're saying is logical.
A man who is hungry is only able to contemplate about that hunger, and how to satiate it. But a man who is well-fed can focus and concentrate his mind on other things, such as his physical and psychological well-being, philosophy, the arts, studying, exercise, or whatever else.
With that said, even the poorest of the poor living anywhere in the West live a privileged life when compared to other nations. Some nations still don't even use toilet paper, while even our homeless have cell phones, and you never hear about homeless people starving to death in this country either. We have a different standard of "poor" here in the USA.
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Re: Growing up as a rich kid. [Re: Crystal G] 5
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Bill_Oreilly said:
I believe in a lot of cases that God chooses the right people to grow up with money. The universe/god knows who is worthy of the money and who isnt.
A wise man once said.."you get what you deserve..thats the way it works"
And I believe that is a bunch of BS.
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Bill_Oreilly said: I believe in a lot of cases that God chooses the right people to grow up with money. The universe/god knows who is worthy of the money and who isnt.
A wise man once said.."you get what you deserve..thats the way it works"
And I believe that is a bunch of BS.
This could only possibly make sense if you believe in the concept of past lives. Otherwise why would else would god punish a newborn baby, some of these kids who are just born into poverty or dire circumstances.
But if you believe in karma and past lives and everything, then okay I guess that could make sense, if you were really bad in a past life or something.
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Re: Growing up as a rich kid. [Re: Crystal G]
#23886223 - 12/01/16 11:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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so being poor is a negative, a punishment?
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natedawgnow
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tyrannicalrex said:
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Bill_Oreilly said:
I believe in a lot of cases that God chooses the right people to grow up with money. The universe/god knows who is worthy of the money and who isnt.
A wise man once said.."you get what you deserve..thats the way it works"
And I believe that is a bunch of BS.
For real bill...
Money and its value were created by man kind. God, if you believe in such a thing, didn't create money or even the idea of money.
Man came up with the idea of money as a means of compensation to support a growing population when the idea of labor and service work became a thing.
Money started as other actual goods and services in trade, then morphed into precious metals when we decided that they have value, again only value that we give it, and then we replaced precious metals with pieces of paper that the metals were supposed to back and support, which they don't anymore.
Money is a creation of our construct and not a divine creation, and in the grand scheme, it really has no true value besides the value that we give it. It's not like when you die, the universe/god judges you based on how much money you had before you died. The thought alone is laughable
If god exists, he/she/it definitely doesn't give a shit about money 
Just goes to show how the privileged think 
I grew up in a struggling household with a single mother who I greatly respect. I never asked for anything and felt quite guilty actually when I received gifts. My mom never made our financial problems apparent to me or my siblings, but I knew she struggled because of how much she worked and the conversations I would over hear her having with other older family members.
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tyrannicalrex said: so being poor is a negative, a punishment?
That's not something I personally believe in, I'm just saying from the religious perspective of things, it could only possibly make sense if you believed in karma and reincarnation.
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moonrockmushy
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Re: Growing up as a rich kid. [Re: Crystal G]
#23886357 - 12/02/16 12:23 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crystal G said: Bill and Sara do have a point. What they're saying is logical.
A man who is hungry is only able to contemplate about that hunger, and how to satiate it. But a man who is well-fed can focus and concentrate his mind on other things, such as his physical and psychological well-being, philosophy, the arts, studying, exercise, or whatever else.
With that said, even the poorest of the poor living anywhere in the West live a privileged life when compared to other nations. Some nations still don't even use toilet paper, while even our homeless have cell phones, and you never hear about homeless people starving to death in this country either. We have a different standard of "poor" here in the USA.
Yeah how many poor heroin addict reformed false psychedelic messiahs do you know? None I bet. Thank god someone has the means to achieve that.
Jk I love ya Bill.
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hostileuniverse
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tyrannicalrex said:
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Bill_Oreilly said:
I believe in a lot of cases that God chooses the right people to grow up with money. The universe/god knows who is worthy of the money and who isnt.
A wise man once said.."you get what you deserve..thats the way it works"
And I believe that is a bunch of BS.
What the fuck did i just read? Some kind of over metastasized karma?
Santa brings toys for the good kids and a lump of coal for the naughty ones?
***Who fucking believes this shit???
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Re: Growing up as a rich kid. [Re: Crystal G]
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I didn't grow up rich, however I did go to school with some extremely, extremely wealthy families. One of my close friends came from a family of oil barons, they owned a private jet, and a private runway for that jet, along with a ranch spanning three counties in Texas. One time I went over to his ranch, and we set a toyota truck on fire for entertainment because he hated toyotas. We were ten.
I met Shaq at lunch one day, just randomly -- Hunter Thompson's lawyer; Valero's vice president, because his daughter went to the same school. I could go on, but you get the idea.
It stressed me out in one of the most beneficial ways possible, I realized what money could do for one's quality of life, more specifically, I realized I needed to start working hard towards developing myself as an entrepreneur because nothing was going to be handed to me.
Looking back, it was definitely a surreal experience growing up among the elites of the world. In a different vein, I spent an equal amount of time with lower/middle class families in church groups, boyscouts and the like. My neighbors had to move back to Mexico because they couldn't reach citizenship requirements.
Having grown up with such diverse groups of people was definitely unique.
P.S. Money matters, winning matters, corporeal achievement and accomplishment matter. A common trope is that money doesn't buy happiness, I disagree.
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"P.S. Money matters, winning matters, corporeal achievement and accomplishment matter. A common trope is that money doesn't buy happiness, I disagree." Now that, is a false reality.
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