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Invisiblebaltazar
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i don't understand
    #2388118 - 02/29/04 04:26 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)


I have a problem ... I can't get jars like you people use for making cakes . I can't get the cake in one piece ( birdseed tek ) out of the jar , what should i do ? Should i case it ?

Will it grow if i just get everything out and place it on a aluminium foil ? something like a flat cake ...

I was thinking if casing to use this method - on the bottom layer wet saw dust , then colonised birdseed clumps , then on the top compost+soil  ... will this work ?

I'm preety new to this , need some help  :shiftyeyes:


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Re: i don't understand [Re: baltazar]
    #2388127 - 02/29/04 04:31 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

No saw dust wont work, or wont work well.
You need to pasturise some straw, and mix the
seed into that. Look up bulk tecs and spawning.

You say you have birdseed cakes? the idea if bird
seed is that ut should be used as a spawn.


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Re: i don't understand [Re: Loki]
    #2388131 - 02/29/04 04:33 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: i don't understand [Re: Loki]
    #2388145 - 02/29/04 04:43 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

thanx ... very usefull information ... One more question , there is no vermiculite in my place , what could i use to case it ?


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Re: i don't understand [Re: baltazar]
    #2388152 - 02/29/04 04:48 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

coco coir, peat...
www.shroomery.org/casing


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Re: i don't understand [Re: baltazar]
    #2388238 - 02/29/04 05:50 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

getting jars shouldnt be that hard. go to a hardware store or larger supermarket.


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Re: i don't understand [Re: noresolution]
    #2388258 - 02/29/04 06:23 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I searched for the jars everywhere , but it doesn't matter anyway becose i'm going to case it ( no need to get it out in one piece ) ... Can someone tell me from experience how good is the peat casing method ???? There is no vermiculite and coco coir ( forget it , it is #ucking imposible to find it , i searched everywhere ) ...


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Re: i don't understand [Re: baltazar]
    #2388261 - 02/29/04 06:32 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

>Can someone tell me from experience how good is the peat casing method ????

It?s ok. Make sure to buffer it with limestone flour.


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Re: i don't understand [Re: Anno]
    #2388296 - 02/29/04 07:06 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Ok . Thanks .
So this is how i'm going to do it . First i pasteurize some straw in the oven ( loki's method ) and then i mix it with colonised birdseed , and when the straw gets colonised i add casing mix made from peat with added gypsum and chalk to neutralize and make good PH for the shrooms ... Is this ok ?


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Re: i don't understand [Re: baltazar]
    #2388299 - 02/29/04 07:10 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds good to me :smile2:
Don't use too much gypsum, you only need a little.
I just use a little handfull of crushed oystershell,
the kind feed to chickens.

Good luck with it.


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Re: i don't understand [Re: Loki]
    #2388414 - 02/29/04 09:39 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Ok ... thanks , but first i need to colonize birdseed . Now i'm just making the work plan , so there won't be any shit later ... :wink:


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Re: i don't understand [Re: baltazar]
    #2389055 - 02/29/04 03:58 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

One more question ... how should i sterilize the peat+gypsum+chalk mix ???? Is it ok to sterilize it in a microwave ... If yes , for how long ? Explain a bit ...


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