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members opting out
    #23880555 - 11/30/16 02:44 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I would like to see a secret point scale in place where more established members (me) earn points for unpleasant members choosing to out out and no longer participate in the rating system. 

I think its important because an opt out basically says to the community that a member may not be trustworthy.  Its a red flag and calls attention to some sort of unpredictability or social retardation that may be cause for concern.  I put a lot of thought into ratings I leave.  My brain struggles putting together the right words to articulate that persons character (whether perceived as good or bad).  A reward like a supporter acct or some show of gratitude (without actual gratuity) for efforts and good works would be nice.  We contribute by adding transparency in the vast sterile shithole known affectionately as the internet. 

bottom line.. a member chooses not to participate because at some point they have gone out of their way to sabbotage their own reputation. They cause their own social failure with repeated acts of disrespect and unkindness toward others and I have absolutley no sympathy.

and like always i take all the credit and none of the blame.

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Re: members opting out [Re: sprinkles] * 1
    #23880601 - 11/30/16 03:53 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I have a 5 shroom trade rating. That should let people know im not complete garbage and stick to my word.
I opted out of the general rating as I dont like to feel restricted on what I say due to a "rating system"

Even if you dont care what others think having this thought in your head that you need to be someone your not and say what you normally wouldnt is always there with a rating system.

I dont want a 1 shroom rating because I touched on a taboo topic.
I dont want the people I trade with to think im going to scam them because I dislike things others dont and get bad ratings for it.
And while it can be said that a trader will only look at trade ratings, and this may be the case most of the time, I believe that a negative general rating will affect some of those traders opinions.

Before I opted out I would hold back on what I would say. Opting out has removed that feeling entirely and I feel alot more like I have a "freedom of speech".

You can also opt out and choosing not to should not get you rewarded and quite frankly believing it should is selfish on your part.(something I wouldnt say with a general rating)


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Re: members opting out [Re: MollyLucyMaryJane]
    #23880622 - 11/30/16 04:10 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

im selfish but also self-less. it depends.




anyway i am sorry you feel the need to sensor what you think, feel, and say because you're afraid of others opinions and how they will feel about you. Ive never understood why people try so hard to be accepted and liked.



I seem to have this devil may care attitude tho and never seeked approval from others in order to validate myself but i guess my skin is thicker than most peoples.  I really dont give a damn what people think because the majority of PPL=SHT.  The fewer I need to please the happier and better off I am. 


People may not like me but they will atleast maybe respect me, for not compromising myself in order to fit in or gain approval.


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Re: members opting out [Re: sprinkles]
    #23880791 - 11/30/16 06:58 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

From now on, you get a row of blue and white mushrooms for not opting out.


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Re: members opting out [Re: Crazy_Horse] * 1
    #23880808 - 11/30/16 07:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

i want the 5 shrooms colored up so bad but I figure 90% of people on here are defective. if most people liked me that would mean i am similiar in their likeness. and we all know i'm not like most people.


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Re: members opting out [Re: sprinkles]
    #23964378 - 12/28/16 11:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

well, your harsh in-your-face style is not liked by some people.

I hate cops, and Ive gotten negative ratings cause of it.

If u inject hate or anger or any other negative emotion into your post, or happen to agree with fucked up ways of life (for example), posters will take offense and u will get dinged in your ratings.

Some people are very sensitive to negative things :shrug:


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Re: members opting out [Re: sprinkles] * 1
    #23965861 - 12/29/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

i think opting out is fucked as well and shouldnt be an option


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Re: members opting out [Re: Connoisseur] * 1
    #23973083 - 01/01/17 01:42 PM (7 years, 29 days ago)

Funny because I think there shouldnt be a "general rating" at all.
There isnt in most other forums.

People let it go to their heads. If you say 1 thing you shouldnt when your drunk you end up with a 2 rating and everyone just ignores you from then on.


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Re: members opting out [Re: MollyLucyMaryJane]
    #23973488 - 01/01/17 04:37 PM (7 years, 29 days ago)

I think its very important we are all fair and honest with our general ratings of each other otherwise its pretty pointless


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Re: members opting out [Re: MollyLucyMaryJane]
    #23993010 - 01/08/17 04:46 PM (7 years, 22 days ago)

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MollyLucyMaryJane said:
Funny because I think there shouldnt be a "general rating" at all.




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General rates are the rare moronic admin fuck-up. It encourages children to post here. Return the site to a more adult nature. Those that leave because of it, shouldn't be here anyway.


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Re: members opting out [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23994264 - 01/09/17 01:40 AM (7 years, 21 days ago)

It would be nice to have an ignore toggle for optouts. I don't want to have anything to do with optouts in cult, MH&I or marketplace (even though "only trade ratings matter").


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Re: members opting out [Re: Adden] * 1
    #23995410 - 01/09/17 02:29 PM (7 years, 21 days ago)

I don't think you should be able to opt out either... Opting out makes you instantly an untrustworthy person in my head... I would rather see 5 albinos with 5 green ones under them than an opt out... I have no problem trading with someone with a 0 general and a 5 trade... An opt out with a 5 trade... Nope.


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Re: members opting out [Re: MollyLucyMaryJane]
    #23997276 - 01/10/17 03:53 AM (7 years, 20 days ago)

Quote:

MollyLucyMaryJane said:
Funny because I think there shouldnt be a "general rating" at all.
There isnt in most other forums.

People let it go to their heads. If you say 1 thing you shouldnt when your drunk you end up with a 2 rating and everyone just ignores you from then on.




I'm not sure what a "general rating" is but I think there should be no ratings.. To me it is juvenile with people giving each other bad ratings. It's like the way children try to outdo each other in calling each other names.

I would encourage people to opt-out.

I can see the purpose of it in merchandise forums however.


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Re: members opting out [Re: MollyLucyMaryJane]
    #23997286 - 01/10/17 04:06 AM (7 years, 20 days ago)

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MollyLucyMaryJane said:
I have a 5 shroom trade rating. That should let people know im not complete garbage and stick to my word.
I opted out of the general rating as I dont like to feel restricted on what I say due to a "rating system"

Even if you dont care what others think having this thought in your head that you need to be someone your not and say what you normally wouldnt is always there with a rating system.

I dont want a 1 shroom rating because I touched on a taboo topic.
I dont want the people I trade with to think im going to scam them because I dislike things others dont and get bad ratings for it.
And while it can be said that a trader will only look at trade ratings, and this may be the case most of the time, I believe that a negative general rating will affect some of those traders opinions.

Before I opted out I would hold back on what I would say. Opting out has removed that feeling entirely and I feel alot more like I have a "freedom of speech".

You can also opt out and choosing not to should not get you rewarded and quite frankly believing it should is selfish on your part.(something I wouldnt say with a general rating)



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Re: members opting out [Re: endogenous] * 2
    #23999408 - 01/10/17 08:27 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

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endogenous said:
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MollyLucyMaryJane said:
Funny because I think there shouldnt be a "general rating" at all.
There isnt in most other forums.

People let it go to their heads. If you say 1 thing you shouldnt when your drunk you end up with a 2 rating and everyone just ignores you from then on.




I'm not sure what a "general rating" is but I think there should be no ratings.. To me it is juvenile with people giving each other bad ratings. It's like the way children try to outdo each other in calling each other names.

I would encourage people to opt-out.

I can see the purpose of it in merchandise forums however.



In all the weird random forums that dont have a purpose the ratings are useless... But in mush cult the ratings are a way to let others know if the person giving them information knows his or hers shit or not.... Thats where the ratings system is lacking, because someone that actually is a good cultivator will stumble into the pub and say something then get rating raped by a bunch of people who have zero interest in cultivating, in turn making them look unreliable at a glance.... That is nonsense


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Re: members opting out [Re: LocN9ne] * 1
    #23999485 - 01/10/17 08:52 PM (7 years, 20 days ago)

General ratings speak a lot more of a person than trade ever would in some cases. Any idiot can win a gift basket giveaway and turn those around into positive ratings by giving that stuff to other people.

If I see 10 ratings of "person loves to learn", "eager for knowledge", and doesn't have any trade ratings then I'm going to put them at the top of the list over an opt out with 10 trade ratings. It's why I don't send prints in a giveaway to optouts.

You guys just saw what Hashed & his six puppets just did. He had opted out of general after being called out for being a thief, fluffed his trade ratings, and then went ahead and robbed people.

They don't serve any purpose in community forums but they certainly give me a good idea of who this user is as a person before I go sending them free prints or take them out for mushroom photographs. Or who I'm going to spend my time giving advice to. They might mean nothing in the Pub but they sure do mean a lot in MH&I and cultivation.

If someone screws up so bad in their general ratings that they have to hide them, then what else do they have to hide? Ratings raeps hardly even happen anymore so that's a poor argument. I bet all the people who got ripped off by Hashed could've had great benefit from his general ratings in being called out as a thief.

People can also turn around and change. It's part of the learning experience and human experience. If someone has 3 mushrooms and the last 20 have been positive and mushroom related then sure. If they're community forum ratings over debates it doesn't matter. Hiding ratings just makes me wonder what else they have to hide.


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Re: members opting out [Re: endogenous]
    #24000955 - 01/11/17 11:53 AM (7 years, 19 days ago)

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endogenous said:
Quote:

MollyLucyMaryJane said:
Funny because I think there shouldn't be a "general rating" at all.
There isn't in most other forums.

People let it go to their heads. If you say 1 thing you shouldn't when your drunk you end up with a 2 rating and everyone just ignores you from then on.




I'm not sure what a "general rating" is but I think there should be no ratings.. To me it is juvenile with people giving each other bad ratings. It's like the way children try to outdo each other in calling each other names.

I would encourage people to opt-out.

I can see the purpose of it in merchandise forums however.




wow shows how much you know about the site lol, a general rating is supposed to reflect the amount of positively and valid information a poster brings to the shroomery. its supposed to reflect how much the poster gives back to the community instead of just what they take from it.

if someone is often counterproductive to the community and spreads miss info or negativity they will sometimes receive negative ratings for it.


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Re: members opting out [Re: Connoisseur]
    #24006235 - 01/13/17 05:03 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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Connoisseur said:
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endogenous said:
Quote:

MollyLucyMaryJane said:
Funny because I think there shouldn't be a "general rating" at all.
There isn't in most other forums.

People let it go to their heads. If you say 1 thing you shouldn't when your drunk you end up with a 2 rating and everyone just ignores you from then on.




I'm not sure what a "general rating" is but I think there should be no ratings.. To me it is juvenile with people giving each other bad ratings. It's like the way children try to outdo each other in calling each other names.

I would encourage people to opt-out.

I can see the purpose of it in merchandise forums however.




wow shows how much you know about the site lol, a general rating is supposed to reflect the amount of positively and valid information a poster brings to the shroomery. its supposed to reflect how much the poster gives back to the community instead of just what they take from it.

if someone is often counterproductive to the community and spreads miss info or negativity they will sometimes receive negative ratings for it.



What I was seeing was people giving me bad ratings because I am against the slaughter of animals for food and am in favor of gun control.  There are some very abusive people who love to bash those who are into non-violence.

But, I don't see a point in rating people. Some people will make no sense in one post and then make alot of sense in another. You can see where they're at from their posts. And what to one person is  a negative post that doesn't add to the site, is a positive post that is beneficial to everyone.

It leads to childish name calling. Again - I would do away with the general ratings - and encourage others to opt out.


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Re: members opting out [Re: endogenous] * 1
    #24015589 - 01/16/17 07:07 PM (7 years, 14 days ago)

there is always a chance to respond to your rating, or to plead your case if you feel it was unjust. In this way, whom ever is reading them can form there own opinion based on previous and current ratings.


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Re: members opting out [Re: NothingsChanged]
    #24015608 - 01/16/17 07:18 PM (7 years, 14 days ago)

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there is always a chance to respond to your rating, or to plead your case if you feel it was unjust. In this way, whom ever is reading them can form there own opinion based on previous and current ratings.




But then you've got a lot of people who will form a prejudiced opinion on someone by simply seeing that they have 2/5 shrooms below there name, it should be that to see there rating you'd have to enter there profile and read the ratings and form an opinion for yourself, if you get my point.


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