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afflictis
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Legal question
#23880501 - 11/30/16 02:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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So I know mushies are illegal but if I only have pasty plates with mycelium on them is that legal or not since there are no alkaloids present. I live in fl
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enlightenment
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There are alkaloids in it. It would be illegal in Germany. Depends on the law if the mushrooms are declared as illegal or the active alkaloids.
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Boogieman47
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I think as long as you dont label it as an active species the cops wouldnt be able to do shit about it tje chances of them getting it to a lab to actually grow the shit out to see what it is let alone the resources it would take is pretty slim to none ... all mushrooms start off as mycelium so label it as an edible
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afflictis
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Hmm I was under the assumption only mushies were illegal good to know I guess I'll have to look. Up the laws regarding mushrooms
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afflictis
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noob47 said: I think as long as you dont label it as an active species the cops wouldnt be able to do shit about it tje chances of them getting it to a lab to actually grow the shit out to see what it is let alone the resources it would take is pretty slim to none ... all mushrooms start off as mycelium so label it as an edible
I don't label my plates I use different dye to tell me what variety it is
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Boogieman47
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Oh thats smart well like enlightment said there is alkaloids but honestly why are you worried if you arent plannin on growing them out? The cops wont waste time on a "mycelium" bust
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tump
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Wrong the mushrooms aren't illegal the actives are the part. The myc have a fair amount in them. The law also states different amoubrs carried or found on you is what you charge with. They would in theory run your plate through a drug testing kit in most vice cop cars. You be arrest for small crime. Its manufacturing with intill to traffic that screw you over
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afflictis
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noob47 said: Oh thats smart well like enlightment said there is alkaloids but honestly why are you worried if you arent plannin on growing them out? The cops wont waste time on a "mycelium" bust
I'm not worried at all I'm just moving back in with my dad and he knows about my hobbie and doesn't want me to do it there. Was thinking of doing all the agar work there if it wasn't illegal and having my grows at a friend's house
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Re: Legal question [Re: tump]
#23880540 - 11/30/16 02:32 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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tump said: Wrong the mushrooms aren't illegal the actives are the part. The myc have a fair amount in them. The law also states different amoubrs carried or found on you is what you charge with. They would in theory run your plate through a drug testing kit in most vice cop cars. You be arrest for small crime. Its manufacturing with intill to traffic that screw you over
Dude if youre growing active shrooms the shrooms are illegal plain and simple and the vice squad isnt going to run your plates and be like "we got a guy transporting mycelium" how would they know by running your plates ?? Ive got terrorist acts and was told to leave california and not come back when i was 15 and i dont ever get pulled over transporting mycelium or not lmao.....
Oh i see.. idk i think if you and your dad talk about doing that it should be cool man
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afflictis
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Jk
Edited by afflictis (11/30/16 03:00 AM)
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Boogieman47
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If you have a microscope let your dad in on looking at how shit germinates idk how your dad is but i know if my kid wanted to show me something cool id be all for it
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afflictis
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He's cool with it he just doesn't want illegal stuff done at his house which I understand. And I'dk if that would effect him in that way. I'm almost 26 it's not like I'm trying to show him a science fair project 8)
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All except for the testing the mycelium with a kit tump is correct...
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Re: Legal question [Re: LocN9ne]
#23880575 - 11/30/16 03:11 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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LocN9ne said: All except for the testing the mycelium with a kit tump is correct...
Depends on the country. If I am not wrong mycelium of active species is not illegal in the Netherlands. Fruits of active species are illegal there. That's why they sell sclerotia without problems.
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Boogieman47
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Well op is in florida homeslice i know you dont wanna hear tumps correct haha ... to a degree he is but just like wuth pot seeds if you know the law cops have to have 10 seeds in which three germinate to hit you for manufacturing im sure somethimg similar is wuth mycelium and if beat cops start fucking with plates opening and all that before it gets to the lab all they have is trich and bacteria
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mycoOrganics
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Words from Erowid.....
Because spores contain no psilocybin or psilocin, they are legal to sell and possess (in all states except California, Georgia, and Idaho). But in most states, it is illegal to cultivate or propagate spores into mycelium since mycelium generally contains both psilocybin and psilocin.
https://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_law.shtml
Unrelated but interesting:
Florida stands out because of a decision in 1978 in Fiske v Florida by the Florida Supreme Court which ruled that wild-picked psilocybin mushrooms could not be legally considered "containers" of psilocybin and thus would have to be specifically listed in Florida law by the legislature if they meant to make them illegal. Since the Florida legislature has not chosen to change the laws since then, the possession of wild Psilocybin mushrooms is presumptively not punishable under state law. This does not mean police won't arrest people for possession of even wild mushrooms, but this has been used as a successful defense against such charges.
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afflictis
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mycoOrganics said: Words from Erowid.....
Because spores contain no psilocybin or psilocin, they are legal to sell and possess (in all states except California, Georgia, and Idaho). But in most states, it is illegal to cultivate or propagate spores into mycelium since mycelium generally contains both psilocybin and psilocin.
https://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_law.shtml
Unrelated but interesting:
Florida stands out because of a decision in 1978 in Fiske v Florida by the Florida Supreme Court which ruled that wild-picked psilocybin mushrooms could not be legally considered "containers" of psilocybin and thus would have to be specifically listed in Florida law by the legislature if they meant to make them illegal. Since the Florida legislature has not chosen to change the laws since then, the possession of wild Psilocybin mushrooms is presumptively not punishable under state law. This does not mean police won't arrest people for possession of even wild mushrooms, but this has been used as a successful defense against such charges.
super useful thanks for the post
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Re: Legal question [Re: tump]
#23880924 - 11/30/16 08:26 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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tump said: Wrong the mushrooms aren't illegal the actives are the part. The myc have a fair amount in them.
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Re: Legal question [Re: tump]
#23880936 - 11/30/16 08:33 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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tump said: Wrong the mushrooms aren't illegal the actives are the part. The myc have a fair amount in them. The law also states different amoubrs carried or found on you is what you charge with. They would in theory run your plate through a drug testing kit in most vice cop cars. You be arrest for small crime. Its manufacturing with intill to traffic that screw you over
Lol how are you not banned yet?
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Who is gonna know unless you tell them ?My point is when you are labeling use anything other than psilocybin mushies. Use a code only you understand.It may save your ass someday.
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Re: Legal question [Re: Pinpapa]
#23880989 - 11/30/16 08:57 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I write NOT MAGIC MUSHROOMS on all my plates and tubs.
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spacechildo said: I write NOT MAGIC MUSHROOMS on all my plates and tubs. 
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Boogieman47
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Space you too? I thought i was the only one
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