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"LSD" and Benzos
    #23880363 - 11/29/16 11:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

So, I am prescribed 2mg Klonopin with 1600mg Gabapentin daily. Sometimes I take more than that.

In the past I have used mushrooms and what I am told is LSD but could be RC's while on both these meds with no problem, except wondering how much I dulled the trip.


I am getting a hit of supposedly good LSD from my sister... My only issue is I am wondering how much Klonopin I should take. Not asking for dosage advice... I already know what I am going to do- I am asking what you would do if you were me or what your past experiences have been.

I'll do my normal gabapentin dose like usual and my thought was to take only 1mg instead of 2mg of Klonopin. That, along with what is built up in me, I figure would take away any seizure risks if it's an RC. But if it's real acid I'll kick myself for dulling it with any benzos.

Anyways just my thoughts. Not dosage advice. I'm on adderall right now and will probably be up all night, chilll out on benzos and wine tomoroww. It'll be tempting to take the acid then but I plan to wait until the next day- as long as I have weed, which I almost always do Could change my mind anytime, idk.


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Re: "LSD" and Benzos [Re: 28064212]
    #23880396 - 11/30/16 12:20 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

If I was going to take kpins before I took L, I would take the smallest possible maybe 0.25mg to smooth the come up out, otherwise benzos and doses don't mix, unless you're taking some to come down.


If you're only getting a hit, then I wouldn't take 1mg.


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Re: "LSD" and Benzos [Re: Lucis]
    #23880426 - 11/30/16 12:49 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Good advice, though I do have a tolerance.


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Re: "LSD" and Benzos [Re: 28064212]
    #23880442 - 11/30/16 01:07 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Ive always heard that benzos are used to bring people out of bad trips and drastically reduce the high of a trip.
Idk if this is true but I suppose you could google it. Makes sense to me though.


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Re: "LSD" and Benzos [Re: MollyLucyMaryJane] * 1
    #23880449 - 11/30/16 01:13 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think benzos have much effect on the psychedelic experience. Benzos reduce the drug induced anxiety.


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Re: "LSD" and Benzos [Re: 28064212]
    #23880491 - 11/30/16 01:54 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I have found the visual aspect is still there but my creativeness and thoughts seemed dulled.


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Re: "LSD" and Benzos [Re: Putin]
    #23880760 - 11/30/16 06:21 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Taking kolonopin defeats the purpose of taking the lsd, stop being an anxiety ridden lame, take the acid by itself. It ou cant handle normal life without crippling anxiety maybe you shouldnt take psychadelics due to your mental instability and state of mind.


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Re: "LSD" and Benzos [Re: rickpsfuckyou] * 3
    #23880767 - 11/30/16 06:35 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

That's a dumb thing to say. "Stop having anxiety." If someone said that to me while I was having an anxiety attack I'd consider smacking them upside the head. I have anxiety, and I'm depressive. I trip fine. So do so many other people. Therapists are using psychedelics for end of life therapy. Does that really imply to you at they're improper tools for psychotherapy or even recreation?

I have a whole bunch of kpins dude. It's my experience that as long as you're already on benzos that the trip is really just kind of smoothed out, but the mental and visual effects are still there.


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Re: "LSD" and Benzos [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #23880779 - 11/30/16 06:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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That's a dumb thing to say. "Stop having anxiety." If someone said that to me while I was having an anxiety attack I'd consider smacking them upside the head. I have anxiety, and I'm depressive. I trip fine. So do so many other people. Therapists are using psychedelics for end of life therapy. Does that really imply to you at they're improper tools for psychotherapy or even recreation?

I have a whole bunch of kpins dude. It's my experience that as long as you're already on benzos that the trip is really just kind of smoothed out, but the mental and visual effects are still there.





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Re: "LSD" and Benzos [Re: 28064212]
    #23880796 - 11/30/16 07:07 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Should be fine for sure in terms of how strong your trip will be.
Did some mush last week after taking oxazepam and T3 all day and still tripped very hard.


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Re: "LSD" and Benzos [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23880925 - 11/30/16 08:26 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Should be just fine going on as usual with your daily doses, but it may dull the trip. Ive taken benzos before trips to keep the comeup anxiety down, but those were fast-acting, short half life benzo.


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Re: "LSD" and Benzos [Re: 28064212]
    #23881064 - 11/30/16 09:38 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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28064212 said:
So, I am prescribed 2mg Klonopin with 1600mg Gabapentin daily. Sometimes I take more than that.

In the past I have used mushrooms and what I am told is LSD but could be RC's while on both these meds with no problem, except wondering how much I dulled the trip.


I am getting a hit of supposedly good LSD from my sister... My only issue is I am wondering how much Klonopin I should take. Not asking for dosage advice... I already know what I am going to do- I am asking what you would do if you were me or what your past experiences have been.

I'll do my normal gabapentin dose like usual and my thought was to take only 1mg instead of 2mg of Klonopin. That, along with what is built up in me, I figure would take away any seizure risks if it's an RC. But if it's real acid I'll kick myself for dulling it with any benzos.

Anyways just my thoughts. Not dosage advice. I'm on adderall right now and will probably be up all night, chilll out on benzos and wine tomoroww. It'll be tempting to take the acid then but I plan to wait until the next day- as long as I have weed, which I almost always do Could change my mind anytime, idk.


Not asking for dosage advice. Feel free to move to ODD if appropriate.





How long have you been on klonopins? If I were you, and looking to maximize the effects of my trip, as safely as possible, I would immediately begin a small taper. Take .25 off every dose of kpins, benzo and alcohol withdrawal is no joke. It would be one thing if you used kpins recreationally, but since you use them daily, you are taking a risk skipping a dose without a small taper, and then eating something as powerful as LSD.




Benzos only allow my trips to go so deep, and when they go deeper I just black out.  I would re evaluate what got you to the point of making this thread, asking how you can immediately eat 1 hit of acid the second you get it, safely, on medication for anxiety?  You can't set the hit aside and save it for when you'll get something out of it?


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    #23881124 - 11/30/16 10:12 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: "LSD" and Benzos [Re: larry.fisherman] * 1
    #23881148 - 11/30/16 10:24 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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That's a dumb thing to say. "Stop having anxiety." If someone said that to me while I was having an anxiety attack I'd consider smacking them upside the head. I have anxiety, and I'm depressive. I trip fine. So do so many other people. Therapists are using psychedelics for end of life therapy. Does that really imply to you at they're improper tools for psychotherapy or even recreation?

I have a whole bunch of kpins dude. It's my experience that as long as you're already on benzos that the trip is really just kind of smoothed out, but the mental and visual effects are still there.



if you're mentally ill you shouldn't take hallucinogenic drugs. if you can't wait until you are well, or in a lvel headed enough state to not need medication, maybe you should be asking yourself if you should trip at all, not how much of your tranquilizers are ok with a powerful mind bending drug...to give other advice is irresponsible and unsafe.


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Re: "LSD" and Benzos [Re: rickpsfuckyou]
    #23881197 - 11/30/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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That's a dumb thing to say. "Stop having anxiety." If someone said that to me while I was having an anxiety attack I'd consider smacking them upside the head. I have anxiety, and I'm depressive. I trip fine. So do so many other people. Therapists are using psychedelics for end of life therapy. Does that really imply to you at they're improper tools for psychotherapy or even recreation?

I have a whole bunch of kpins dude. It's my experience that as long as you're already on benzos that the trip is really just kind of smoothed out, but the mental and visual effects are still there.



if you're mentally ill you shouldn't take hallucinogenic drugs. if you can't wait until you are well, or in a lvel headed enough state to not need medication, maybe you should be asking yourself if you should trip at all, not how much of your tranquilizers are ok with a powerful mind bending drug...to give other advice is irresponsible and unsafe.



And what qualifies as a sufficient mental state, Doctor? Where did you get your psychology degree? What perfect life chouces have you made that you have had nothing but sunshine and unicorns?

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Re: "LSD" and Benzos [Re: rickpsfuckyou]
    #23881234 - 11/30/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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That's a dumb thing to say. "Stop having anxiety." If someone said that to me while I was having an anxiety attack I'd consider smacking them upside the head. I have anxiety, and I'm depressive. I trip fine. So do so many other people. Therapists are using psychedelics for end of life therapy. Does that really imply to you at they're improper tools for psychotherapy or even recreation?

I have a whole bunch of kpins dude. It's my experience that as long as you're already on benzos that the trip is really just kind of smoothed out, but the mental and visual effects are still there.



if you're mentally ill you shouldn't take hallucinogenic drugs. if you can't wait until you are well, or in a lvel headed enough state to not need medication, maybe you should be asking yourself if you should trip at all, not how much of your tranquilizers are ok with a powerful mind bending drug...to give other advice is irresponsible and unsafe.






Mentally ill is such a broad and ignorant term.  Sometimes psychedelics alleviate these symptoms which are hindering your life, and sometimes they can domino them.  Depression, Anxiety, Schizophrenia....all different.  LSD can help you over come the first two, and matter the last one worse. 


Anxiety is just part of the ticket with LSD.  It's to be expected.  Just remember the phrase "Prevention before intervention"  Plan your trip out like a game of chess.  Think in terms of a map, roads going into god knows where, and how you will handle the terrain.....metaphorically speaking......




I've struggled with mental syndromes my entire life and when I go months without tripping I start to regress extremely bad. 



Besides cannabanoids and gasoline, klonopins have felt like the worst long term drug I have ever done.


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Re: "LSD" and Benzos [Re: koods]
    #23883371 - 11/30/16 11:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I don't think benzos have much effect on the psychedelic experience. Benzos reduce the drug induced anxiety.




Not so. Benzos will diminish the effects of LSD. Reduce anxiety yes but it will also dull the trip. Not super drastically usually but it can on someone with no tolerance to benzos.


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Re: "LSD" and Benzos [Re: koods]
    #23883391 - 11/30/16 11:56 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I don't think benzos have much effect on the psychedelic experience. Benzos reduce the drug induced anxiety.




Totally disagree with this. In my experience the trip was dulled greatly whenever benzos were involved.


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Re: "LSD" and Benzos [Re: rickpsfuckyou]
    #23883404 - 12/01/16 12:07 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Taking kolonopin defeats the purpose of taking the lsd, stop being an anxiety ridden lame, take the acid by itself. It ou cant handle normal life without crippling anxiety maybe you shouldnt take psychadelics due to your mental instability and state of mind.



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Re: "LSD" and Benzos [Re: 28064212]
    #23883405 - 12/01/16 12:07 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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My only issue is I am wondering how much Klonopin I should take




None

Ween off the klonopin (or whatever you have to do) and take the LSD when you are in your natural state.
This is the best thing you can do hands down. I know it may not be what you want but the option you want is not always the best for you.


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    #23883644 - 12/01/16 04:39 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Taking kolonopin defeats the purpose of taking the lsd, stop being an anxiety ridden lame, take the acid by itself. It ou cant handle normal life without crippling anxiety maybe you shouldnt take psychadelics due to your mental instability and state of mind.



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Just because its not the answer you or op wanted, doesnt make it bad advice. Setting and mental state is a huge factor. Op shouldnt trip if he is mentally ill.anyone who says different is an idiot.


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    #23883664 - 12/01/16 05:02 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Coming from someone who has tripped and done benzos a lot, benzos reduce a psychedelic trip dramatically.


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Re: "LSD" and Benzos [Re: tdubz]
    #23883806 - 12/01/16 07:31 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

It can but I find they dull the trip when you take them while on the psychedelic already. Say if you were on it before and then tripped I dont find it dulls a lot of the trip. I mean it does to an extent but nothing too crazy unless you were taking large amounts of benzos that day.


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    #23883823 - 12/01/16 07:38 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

yeah it depends on how you are taking benzos...like if you are taking them daily an plan to trip it is going to require probably more.


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    #23883829 - 12/01/16 07:43 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Some people claim seroquel is a good trip aborter, imo benzos are as good as it gets for trying to end a trip.


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Re: "LSD" and Benzos [Re: tdubz]
    #23886173 - 12/01/16 10:55 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

They are. That's why you don't take them when you are trying TO trip.. they undoubtedly dull aspects of the trip. Nothing better than a benzo for coming down off a hard overly-long acid trip, that is the abort button.


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Re: "LSD" and Benzos [Re: Shroomism]
    #23887734 - 12/02/16 02:05 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I only took a benzo once but I thought it sucked. The trip was dulled but my mind felt raped


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