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Re: Exposing Female Manipulation Techniques [Re: Enjoywho] 3
#23884347 - 12/01/16 12:14 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Enjoywho said: Damn I don't really need to type out a whole tldr on women's manipulation. We all manipulate. The first thing a child does around 2 is learn to lie. Manipulate.
Everyone lies. Everyone manipulates it. We bond together in mutual manipulation and call it love.
thanks for revealing yourself as the scum i always knew you were
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Re: Exposing Female Manipulation Techniques [Re: Enjoywho]
#23884448 - 12/01/16 01:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Enjoywho said: Damn I don't really need to type out a whole tldr on women's manipulation. We all manipulate. The first thing a child does around 2 is learn to lie. Manipulate.
Everyone lies. Everyone manipulates it. We bond together in mutual manipulation and call it love.
What a fucked up reality you live in
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Re: Exposing Female Manipulation Techniques [Re: twighead] 1
#23884457 - 12/01/16 01:05 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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...it's true tho.
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Re: Exposing Female Manipulation Techniques [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23884516 - 12/01/16 01:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not really. There are mythical cultures where people are not subconscious pieces of shit to each other. That place certainly isn't here though 
But one could imagine to most disingenuous people that seems like a myth, because if you're a liar why would you ever be around anything else? No honest people would want anything to do with you. If you believe 'love is a bunch of convenient lies' your love life must be hallowed as fuck
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Re: Exposing Female Manipulation Techniques [Re: twighead]
#23884556 - 12/01/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think things get so much worse after getting married. The official act changes the dynamics of the relationship. I have seen it so many times. People change when things are locked in place. I think there should be commitment without marriage. It compares to monopoly and capitalism. Once there is no competition, things get rotten.
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Re: Exposing Female Manipulation Techniques [Re: Webster10]
#23884613 - 12/01/16 02:05 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Webster10 said: Women are inherently beta, and that's why they have to manipulate.
What do you think the antonym to manipulate is? What does an alpha do instead?
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Re: Exposing Female Manipulation Techniques [Re: moonrockmushy] 3
#23884638 - 12/01/16 02:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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DOMINATE
And call people libtards
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Re: Exposing Female Manipulation Techniques [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23884644 - 12/01/16 02:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Webster10 said: Women are inherently beta, and that's why they have to manipulate.
What do you think the antonym to manipulate is? What does an alpha do instead?
sometimes webster needs a swift kick to the shins, for the sake of his betahood.
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CookieCrumbs said: ...it's true tho.
yep.
boy, are people under the illusion that they don't manipulate the world around them? and people?
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Re: Exposing Female Manipulation Techniques [Re: twighead]
#23884678 - 12/01/16 02:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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twighead said: DOMINATE
And call people libtards
But women dominate at manipulation is what I'm grasping? What is it that alphas dominate? Entitlement?
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Re: Exposing Female Manipulation Techniques [Re: twighead]
#23884683 - 12/01/16 02:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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twighead said: Not really. There are mythical cultures where people are not subconscious pieces of shit to each other. That place certainly isn't here though 
But one could imagine to most disingenuous people that seems like a myth, because if you're a liar why would you ever be around anything else? No honest people would want anything to do with you. If you believe 'love is a bunch of convenient lies' your love life must be hallowed as fuck 
Look about 2 pages back
Definition as per google
ma·nip·u·late məˈnipyəˌlāt/Submit verb verb: manipulate; 3rd person present: manipulates; past tense: manipulated; past participle: manipulated; gerund or present participle: manipulating 1. handle or control (a tool, mechanism, etc.), typically in a skillful manner. "he manipulated the dials of the set" synonyms: operate, work; More alter, edit, or move (text or data) on a computer. examine or treat (a part of the body) by feeling or moving it with the hand. "a system of healing based on manipulating the ligaments of the spine" synonyms: massage, rub, knead, feel, palpate "she manipulated the muscles of his back" 2. control or influence (a person or situation) cleverly, unfairly, or unscrupulously. "the masses were deceived and manipulated by a tiny group" synonyms: control, influence, use/turn to one's advantage, exploit, maneuver, engineer, steer, direct, gerrymander; twist someone around one's little finger "the government tried to manipulate the situation" alter (data) or present (statistics) so as to mislead. synonyms: falsify, rig, distort, alter, change, doctor, massage, juggle, tamper with, tinker with, interfere with, misrepresent; More
We live in a world that is manipulative as fuck. And it personally drives me nuts sometimes but most people seem not to understand what manipulation actually is. They just assume it's some dirty underhanded shit to trick them into doing what they'd otherwise eat their own hand not to do... but most of it isn't that at all. Alot of it is very normal human behavior that, as Pachoo said, we learn as a child. I didn't want my parents angry with me so I made it look like I cleaned my room when in reality I just pushed all my junk under the bed. That is, by definition, manipulation.
However there is an extent that it becomes unfair. Which, to certain extents, is not only wrong but also illegal.
So think about that too. How much is "being manipulated" and how much is someone simply trying to make you do something that you don't want to do, even if, fairly, you should probably do it. Ie like take out the fucking trash.
It has a dirty reputation but every single person here as tried to manipulate someone else into doing something at some point. Probably more than one someone and probably at more than one point.
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Re: Exposing Female Manipulation Techniques [Re: CookieCrumbs] 5
#23884696 - 12/01/16 02:36 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I got something you can manipulate.
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Re: Exposing Female Manipulation Techniques [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23884699 - 12/01/16 02:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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if people didn't manipulate people, you could expect to see a world where people are actively trying to kill themselves, and discussing the best ways to do it. sad to say.
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It has a dirty reputation but every single person here as tried to manipulate someone else into doing something at some point. Probably more than one someone and probably at more than one point.
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Re: Exposing Female Manipulation Techniques [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23884706 - 12/01/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sure in that sense - I agree, though when you pair manipulation with lying it certainly implies a more negative connotation - I would prefer the term 'influence' when I truly believe that its for good Which some nihilistic analysis' would instantly slap manipulation on.
I see a distinction in what someone who has made a name for themselves as an egotistical lying cheating dickwad terms manipulation (no names here...) - and what your parents might do when they're trying to help you learn something that is important for you to learn first hand. A rather imprecise term that really imparts very little meaning when discussed so vaguely.
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Re: Exposing Female Manipulation Techniques [Re: twighead]
#23884748 - 12/01/16 02:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sure in that sense - I agree, though when you pair manipulation with lying it certainly implies a more negative connotation - I would prefer the term 'influence' when I truly believe that its for good
we manipulate ourselves into believing that word pertains to us.
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Re: Exposing Female Manipulation Techniques [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23884784 - 12/01/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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CookieCrumbs said: It has a dirty reputation but every single person here as tried to manipulate someone else into doing something at some point. Probably more than one someone and probably at more than one point.
Agreed, you cant really interact without some degree of manipulation, its just unformed bartering.
The other day i steered a conversation to get a lady to reveal if she is still taken, she was intentionally steered into revealing the fact without my actually asking. It avoided potential awkwardness on both our parts and could have been the first step in a lot of good times. Not such a bad thing to use a little wit.
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Re: Exposing Female Manipulation Techniques [Re: akira_akuma]
#23884787 - 12/01/16 03:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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This is kind of like when I argue that racism is classifying humans into races, but people insist it is when you hate other races. Nobody wants the weight of stigma.
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Re: Exposing Female Manipulation Techniques [Re: akira_akuma]
#23884800 - 12/01/16 03:05 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sure in that sense - I agree, though when you pair manipulation with lying it certainly implies a more negative connotation - I would prefer the term 'influence' when I truly believe that its for good
we manipulate ourselves into believing that word pertains to us.
Which is why this is such a meaningless conversation - in a broad sense the observation that we are constantly doing things to rearrange our environments, thoughts, and relationships is such an elementry concept its virtually not even worth discussing. Because in the broad sense of the word our conversation goes as such: Person 1: Humans do things Person 2: Uhhh yeah people do things Person 1: Yep humans do things, sometimes good things and sometimes bad things Person 2: Yep humans do things, uhhh to other things and uhhh with their thoughts and stuff
While Enjoywho's thoughts are basically to use this concept in a sort of "WE R ALL TERRIBLE, HUMANS ARE SHIT, I R NIHILIST VERY INTELLECTUAL" way to justify him being a... welll... fill in the blank as you wish
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Re: Exposing Female Manipulation Techniques [Re: moonrockmushy] 1
#23884813 - 12/01/16 03:09 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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the race of the blacks, the race of the Pygmies, the race of the Zulus, the race of the Aryans, the race of Nords; man, that was fun. now surely one of these people can fly off of this cliff. let's test this out.
totes not racist. this is just science. clearly these people are all different colors, so they must have some uncanny abilities suited to their environment. take the modern Nord for example, and his (or her!) giant head...you see, clearly better suited to working within the intellectual fields of science, and the arts.
now look at this tiny person, who's skill is jungle-running. what use has he of diamonds?
still not racist. just better raced.
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Sure in that sense - I agree, though when you pair manipulation with lying it certainly implies a more negative connotation - I would prefer the term 'influence' when I truly believe that its for good
we manipulate ourselves into believing that word pertains to us.
Which is why this is such a meaningless conversation - in a broad sense the observation that we are constantly doing things to rearrange our environments, thoughts, and relationships is such an elementry concept its virtually not even worth discussing. Because in the broad sense of the word our conversation goes as such: Person 1: Humans do things Person 2: Uhhh yeah people do things Person 1: Yep humans do things, sometimes good things and sometimes bad things Person 2: Yep humans do things, uhhh to other things and uhhh with their thoughts and stuff
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Re: Exposing Female Manipulation Techniques [Re: twighead] 1
#23884820 - 12/01/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: I got something you can manipulate.
Ahaaaa
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Which is why this is such a meaningless conversation - in a broad sense the observation that we are constantly doing things to rearrange our environments, thoughts, and relationships is such an elementry concept its virtually not even worth discussing. Because in the broad sense of the word our conversation goes as such: Person 1: Humans do things Person 2: Uhhh yeah people do things Person 1: Yep humans do things, sometimes good things and sometimes bad things Person 2: Yep humans do things, uhhh to other things and uhhh with their thoughts and stuff
Yes this is true. And also why no one like Akira or me.
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Re: Exposing Female Manipulation Techniques [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23884828 - 12/01/16 03:14 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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CookieCrumbs said: Yes this is true. And also why no one like Akira or me. 
I love you long time
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