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What are the methods for checking fae? Instruments etc
    #23877050 - 11/29/16 01:53 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

So I'm growing cubes in a Martha. Cased rye with 50/50 plus. Will be doing cvg cased next run. Anyways I was wondering what measuring instruments you could buy to check the fae or the Carbon levels etc. And what would the numbers you would be looking for. Thanks


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Re: What are the methods for checking fae? Instruments etc [Re: Chitihurrishrooms]
    #23877213 - 11/29/16 04:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:what: This isn't like growing weed. You dont need any instruments to check the fresh air. Other than your nose?

Your looking too hard into this. Your doing a mono? Just do your top holes loose and the bottom holes tight.
The mush know what to do let them do their thing. I know its hard to keep your fingers out of it and not fuck with it when your new to this but resist the urge.


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Re: What are the methods for checking fae? Instruments etc [Re: JacobStorm]
    #23877226 - 11/29/16 04:18 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Look for "fuzzy feet" if they are present loosen the poly a touch. I wouldn't waste any money on equipment like that since the fungi will tell you all you need to know if you read up and know the signs.

Think of how much oats, jars and tubs you could buy instead of the unnecessary overpriced lab item that wouldn't change much.


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Re: What are the methods for checking fae? Instruments etc [Re: 2shoes]
    #23877331 - 11/29/16 06:06 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Just your eye balls.  No gadgets are necessary.  For my greenhouse, I look for two visual cues happening at the same time to identify adequate FAE.  Very little  to no condensation on the walls of the FC and the substrate surface glistening with moisture at all times.  One without the other, and you could have a problem.


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Re: What are the methods for checking fae? Instruments etc [Re: JacobStorm]
    #23877335 - 11/29/16 06:08 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hmmm in stamets book he gives exact numbers of carbon levels and whatnot at different stages, pinning, fruiting etc. So that's why I asked. I have 68 bags in the pinning stage Ina a large Martha so it seemed important to me. A few in monos but most are just laid out on shelves I built. Takes up half the room. Some got contam already but I'm still getting flushes from a lot of it.


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Re: What are the methods for checking fae? Instruments etc [Re: WeavieWonder]
    #23877340 - 11/29/16 06:14 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Just your eye balls.  No gadgets are necessary.  For my greenhouse, I look for two visual cues happening at the same time to identify adequate FAE.  Very little  to no condensation on the walls of the FC and the substrate surface glistening with moisture at all times.  One without the other, and you could have a problem.



Ok so I have a cool mist and pond fogger in there it always looks slightly steamy and my humidity is near 100 however I notice every few hours there casing is drying out along the edges. I mist away keeping it moist. I guess I need another humidifier? Or is fae too high. I do notice what that guy calls fuzzy feet


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Re: What are the methods for checking fae? Instruments etc [Re: Chitihurrishrooms]
    #23877347 - 11/29/16 06:18 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I have 68 bags in the pinning stage Ina a large Martha so it seemed important to me.




That amount of bags need constant fresh air input with a regulated blower to provide FAE without drying the environment too much.
You can also combine several humidifiers (with ~6 membranes) in a big container with filtered water. Mount a blower on top of the box to provide your GH with fresh humidified air. You find some builds around here.


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Re: What are the methods for checking fae? Instruments etc [Re: 2shoes]
    #23877389 - 11/29/16 07:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Look for "fuzzy feet"




Isn't always the case, could also be due to genetics.


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Re: What are the methods for checking fae? Instruments etc [Re: Teemo 6T3]
    #23877393 - 11/29/16 07:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: What are the methods for checking fae? Instruments etc [Re: Chitihurrishrooms]
    #23877408 - 11/29/16 07:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It might be nice to have all those measuring instruments if you had an automated room, but a martha no just eye ballz.


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Re: What are the methods for checking fae? Instruments etc [Re: Chitihurrishrooms]
    #23877448 - 11/29/16 07:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Hmmm in stamets book he gives exact numbers of carbon levels and whatnot at different stages, pinning, fruiting etc. So that's why I asked. I have 68 bags in the pinning stage Ina a large Martha so it seemed important to me. A few in monos but most are just laid out on shelves I built. Takes up half the room. Some got contam already but I'm still getting flushes from a lot of it.



Technically fruiting should be constantly under 1000 ppm. Stamets has a ton of unnecessary numbers in there, it's just <1000 at all times. I do agree tho that you don't need no gadgets, just eyeball it and learn to interpret the shrooms. Mushrooms show reactions to everything.


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Re: What are the methods for checking fae? Instruments etc [Re: Mad Season]
    #23877502 - 11/29/16 08:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Main reason I was asking is even tho the Martha is near 100% humidity the edges of the chamber have casing that's always drying out. I mist the whole thing several times a day but those edges and always dried out after a few hours. I feel humidity is correct so would that mean fae is too high? There's a few spots where I could tighten the poly a bit but then I'd feel that fae would be too low. Guess I'll keep toying with it until I find sweet spot. The whole chamber is 11 feet by 3 feet about half the room. Custom built shelves wall to wall. I think I'll add another pond fogger


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Re: What are the methods for checking fae? Instruments etc [Re: Chitihurrishrooms]
    #23877554 - 11/29/16 08:44 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Do you have any fans going in the room?


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Re: What are the methods for checking fae? Instruments etc [Re: Chitihurrishrooms]
    #23877564 - 11/29/16 08:46 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Fruit are 90% water.  The myc is pulling water from the inside.  Are you doing straight grain?


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Re: What are the methods for checking fae? Instruments etc [Re: glowdiver]
    #23877806 - 11/29/16 10:20 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Do you have any fans going in the room?



Yes a small one inside the Martha. Leave the door open to the room that the Martha is in


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Fruit are 90% water.  The myc is pulling water from the inside.  Are you doing straight grain?



Yes these ones are. Next batch will be cvg. I had a huge pinset off my last straight grain monos. But like half of them aborted. Unbelievable pinset actually. Apparently this happens with straight grains so I'll be going grains spawned to cvg next batch.


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Re: What are the methods for checking fae? Instruments etc [Re: Chitihurrishrooms]
    #23877912 - 11/29/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I have absolutely no instruments for measuring anything, except for temperature. I am using visuals signs from the substrate/fruits and adjusting conditions accordingly.

Its working for me and this is only my second grow. I think its easy to overthink things in this hobby.


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Re: What are the methods for checking fae? Instruments etc [Re: Chitihurrishrooms]
    #23877932 - 11/29/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Main reason I was asking is even tho the Martha is near 100% humidity the edges of the chamber have casing that's always drying out. I mist the whole thing several times a day but those edges and always dried out after a few hours. I feel humidity is correct so would that mean fae is too high? There's a few spots where I could tighten the poly a bit but then I'd feel that fae would be too low. Guess I'll keep toying with it until I find sweet spot. The whole chamber is 11 feet by 3 feet about half the room. Custom built shelves wall to wall. I think I'll add another pond fogger




It seems like you have it mostly dialed in.  The best thing you can do is experiment to get it perfect.  Dialing in a new setup can take time.  My green house is a new setup.  I dialed it in most of the way before putting anything in it.


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Re: What are the methods for checking fae? Instruments etc [Re: Chitihurrishrooms]
    #23878685 - 11/29/16 03:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Try turning your fogger up a little and see what happens.  Try and keep FAE as high as possible.


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