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InvisibleMollyLucyMaryJane

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yo
    #23876674 - 11/28/16 10:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

this life is fucking stupid.
since i was born in the first place wouldnt death mean that im just going to immediately be born again into a life different than the one im in but with no memories?
Seems like the only reason were alive is because time slows down and lets us experience this current reality.
Death would mean a different reality right?
Is it like a video game where if your fucked you should just "reset"


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Re: yo [Re: MollyLucyMaryJane]
    #23876687 - 11/28/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yes I think so but I think your new life would probably be in a different reality. By that it you could be in a 4-dimensional universe, an inside out one, or maybe not even a universe at all maybe something completely different. But I believe concsiousness does not end with death. It will likely change after death but no matter how difficult life is you should give it your best shot. What if it's all a test to see what type of reality you will go to next?


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Re: yo [Re: MollyLucyMaryJane]
    #23876696 - 11/28/16 10:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

well biological programing of the individual
is basically basic for a mammal:
get born, grow, reproduce, die,
if you want call it stupid.

your other conclusions rest on all kinds of very questionable assumptions,
especially about who you are
and what a 'self' is
so the conclusions are most likely false

...one could  question whether the self is actually what we assume it is
there is a lot of literature on the web on the subject
a search for
anattaa
and
anicca
will provide some deep analysis of the matter, some of which you might find interesting
for example
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Buddhism+anccia&t=h_&ia=web


Edited by laughingdog (11/28/16 10:21 PM)


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InvisibleMollyLucyMaryJane

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Re: yo [Re: laughingdog]
    #23877037 - 11/29/16 01:46 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Idk i think i wanna try again this life is dumb.
If we were born in the first place it seems like eventually any possibility is going to happen. Should you keep killing yourself until your eventually rich?
Or find a reality where money isnt the only thing that matters?


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Re: yo [Re: MollyLucyMaryJane]
    #23877051 - 11/29/16 01:53 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

MollyLucyMaryJane said:
this life is fucking stupid.
since i was born in the first place wouldnt death mean that im just going to immediately be born again into a life different than the one im in but with no memories?
Seems like the only reason were alive is because time slows down and lets us experience this current reality.
Death would mean a different reality right?
Is it like a video game where if your fucked you should just "reset"




You are correct, but it might not be right to just "reset" because it may mean that in your next life, if you like it, it's harder to stay there.


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Re: yo [Re: MollyLucyMaryJane] * 1
    #23877362 - 11/29/16 06:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

MollyLucyMaryJane said:
Idk i think i wanna try again this life is dumb.
If we were born in the first place it seems like eventually any possibility is going to happen. Should you keep killing yourself until your eventually rich?
Or find a reality where money isnt the only thing that matters?




The odds that you can become either materially wealthy or spiritually enriched working for someone else is pretty slim.  Of course this includes situations where one thinks they are working for themselves, yet have to be relying on others. A store, a restaurant, for example.  I think something like 80% of restaurant start ups fail in the first two years.  A lot of the time the owners "killed themselves" in terms of hours and emotional stress while losing money to boot.

Now, one could argue that those people losing the restaurant at least failed doing what they loved to do, but if we look more closely often we see that isn't true.  The problem is that when cooking for friends and family, it was fun, relatively controlled, easy, relying on nobody else, ego boost was at maximum.  Compare this to the nights when one person is in the restaurant and his steak is overcooked.  Or when the critic pans it.  Scaling up operations and keeping that same level of fun and rewards isn't easy.

So, choose your profession wisely.  Ideally if you can be completely self reliant as to your success, as much as possible, that's a good thing.  It's maybe possible to work 8 hours a day then have a second life non work related that is profitable, but unless you like your day job ultimately you probably won't be happy with the rest of the time.


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Re: yo [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #23878484 - 11/29/16 02:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

LunarEclipse said:
... So, choose your profession wisely. ... 




MollyLucyMaryJane doesn't seem in the mood to hear sensible advice.

Fantasizes about killing self
which won't happen
because a weak complaining attitude doesn't have the balls to do it
Fantasizes about killing self to improve next life
of course assuming there is reincarnation
and one feels like the same person
in the next life
the same scenario repeats
again
and
again,
now that's what I call stupid


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InvisibleMollyLucyMaryJane

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Re: yo [Re: laughingdog]
    #23879085 - 11/29/16 05:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Saying that I think I want to try again isnt fantasizing. Its thinking. and besides if one is born in the first place wouldnt that mean that eventually something will happen again? Something happened once. Why wouldnt it again?

Also if I did want to kill myself but was too weak to do it alcohol could easily remedy that. That being the case I think its pretty clear I dont want to die.
Some people struggle to philosophize about taboo subjects and I can appreciate that but please dont bring it into my thread.

Think about showing me a logical argument as to how infinity doesnt exist and why when we die infinite time/change wont pass until eventually, Due to infinite possibility and change, we will be born again into some kind of reality/existence.

"a weak complaining attitude doesn't have the balls"
"stupid"

Random namecalling and making absolutely no points to support your weak argument, If your even trying to make one I cant tell its so weak, Just makes you look like you have no idea what your talking about.


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Re: yo [Re: MollyLucyMaryJane]
    #23879133 - 11/29/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The idea of an infinite universe is something I agree with, so in theory, at least in my opinion, you can just glock yourself until you wake up as Donald Trumps late great grandson or something. However, why did we reincarnate, assuming it exists, in the first place? Argue that we have no control over it, that it's something that just happens. If we have no control over it, than who does? If something out there picked I was born some random ass white guy that looks like Shaggy, than it means reincarnation is not random, the Admin of the Universe and all things picks for you. If its self-picked, ask yourself, "Why would I put myself in this position, what do I have to gain from any of this?" I've heard various people discussing the idea that we pick our own reincarnation, to learn or do something. Or its all random and its a spin of the wheel, or there is a God that is going to smite the hell out of us for breathing in a suggestive manner, or we are just fleshy bags of blood and fluids that want to place some value in our short existence.

So in short; Fuck it, do what you think makes life more fun.


Edited by CatHitman (11/29/16 06:05 PM)


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InvisibleMollyLucyMaryJane

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Re: yo [Re: CatHitman]
    #23879304 - 11/29/16 06:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

CatHitman said:
So in short; Fuck it, do what you think makes life more fun.




Good solid advice man and probably the main reason were here.

I feel like infinite possibility could explain everything but it seems like a copout, no different than saying god created everything.

Even still I think thats what I believe to be the answer to everything, Infinity.
To me its the only logical way to explain everything, The fact that there is "unlimited"


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Re: yo [Re: MollyLucyMaryJane]
    #23879326 - 11/29/16 06:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

MollyLucyMaryJane said:
Saying that I think I want to try again isnt fantasizing. Its thinking. and besides if one is born in the first place wouldnt that mean that eventually something will happen again? Something happened once. Why wouldnt it again?

Also if I did want to kill myself but was too weak to do it alcohol could easily remedy that. That being the case I think its pretty clear I dont want to die.
Some people struggle to philosophize about taboo subjects and I can appreciate that but please dont bring it into my thread.

Think about showing me a logical argument as to how infinity doesnt exist and why when we die infinite time/change wont pass until eventually, Due to infinite possibility and change, we will be born again into some kind of reality/existence.

"a weak complaining attitude doesn't have the balls"
"stupid"

Random namecalling and making absolutely no points to support your weak argument, If your even trying to make one I cant tell its so weak, Just makes you look like you have no idea what your talking about.




Calm down.  You made some good points until you chose to reattack.  Sun Tzu the art of war and all of that. 







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Edited by LunarEclipse (11/29/16 07:01 PM)


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InvisibleMollyLucyMaryJane

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Re: yo [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #23879438 - 11/29/16 07:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Wasnt a re-attack. Or meant to be atleast. My intent was constructive criticism.

Something along the lines of..
Dont make a weak argument and name call, Make a strong logical counter-argument.


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Re: yo [Re: MollyLucyMaryJane]
    #23879481 - 11/29/16 07:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

MollyLucyMaryJane said:
Wasnt a re-attack. Or meant to be atleast. My intent was constructive criticism.

Something along the lines of..
Dont make a weak argument and name call, Make a strong logical counter-argument.




Now you're trying to explain your overreaction.  Just Let It Go.



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InvisibleMollyLucyMaryJane

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Re: yo [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #23879580 - 11/29/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quite frankly what I said wasnt an overreaction. Youre welcome to your opinion.


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Re: yo [Re: MollyLucyMaryJane]
    #23879647 - 11/29/16 08:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

MollyLucyMaryJane said:
since i was born in the first place wouldnt death mean that im just going to immediately be born again into a life different than the one im in but with no memories?



no. there are many levels of experience across the universe. sounds like you may be stuck here. you want to move on but are frustrated by the work and are turning to death for comfort. you will be more or less the same each life until you stop fighting.

Quote:

Seems like the only reason were alive is because time slows down and lets us experience this current reality.
Death would mean a different reality right?
Is it like a video game where if your fucked you should just "reset"



there is only one reality.

it is possible that you are in the middle of a long process, of myriad suicides to determine the truth. freedom is the ability to do the wrong thing. either you overcome and move on in the universe or you stay here killing yourself to live while the sun burns out and you with it.


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Re: yo [Re: MollyLucyMaryJane]
    #23881078 - 11/30/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

MollyLucyMaryJane said:
this life is fucking stupid.
since i was born in the first place wouldnt death mean that im just going to immediately be born again into a life different than the one im in but with no memories?
Seems like the only reason were alive is because time slows down and lets us experience this current reality.
Death would mean a different reality right?
Is it like a video game where if your fucked you should just "reset"




Echo says whatever.


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All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs

:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:


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Re: yo [Re: MollyLucyMaryJane]
    #23881279 - 11/30/16 11:16 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

With an open mind I believe anything is possible in this vast universe. So, I have to include the following scene, in the list of infinite possibilities:

What if after physical death, we have no sensory organs or nervous system, or brain to process and correlate information? No perception. It's over.

Well, if that's a possibility, then I'm not willing to blow this existence. This is the only time I'm gonna be me (this guy I'm in). :lol:

Or, what if next time I'm a blade of grass, or an inert gas, or a piece of space rock? A puppy would be cool if I had a cool way owner like myself :cool:

You get what I'm sayin I think...who knows what the heck happens after death? Another way of looking at it is...have fun and kick ass while you're here...it won't matter anyways, but only to you.

:peace:


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Re: yo [Re: Universaleyeni]
    #23881464 - 11/30/16 12:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

One of the buddhist sects, out of the two main ones, believes something along the lines of this for reincarnation:

Suffering is what keeps us in the cycles of reincarnation i guess

Now i’m just purely making this next thing up, i cant’ remember it all that detailed
Once you enlighten, so to speak, you can free yourself from this karmic duality or some shit

i don't think it's been made very easy for humans to transcend dimensions so that you could completely cease to exist in the one you currently inhabit.
if you take a look at egyptian hieroglyphics, they allude to transdimensional travel when viewed at geometrically.


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Re: yo [Re: SnowGypsy] * 1
    #23881619 - 11/30/16 01:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

SnowGypsy said:
...believes something along the lines of ....
Now i’m just purely making this next thing up, i cant’ remember it all that detailed
....




yup you are indeed confused as regards Hinduism and Buddhism
in a nut shell
Buddhism's not about escaping karma and attaining some sort of salvation or exalted state. Not to worry, it's a common misunderstanding. You are right that the Tibetans make a big deal about reincarnation, but reincarnation is not the essence of Buddha's teachings.
On the contrary, it is said:
"It's not about the liberation of the self,
it's about liberation from the self"

all the info is available free on the web in many places


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Re: yo [Re: Universaleyeni]
    #23882727 - 11/30/16 07:13 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Universaleyeni said:
With an open mind I believe anything is possible in this vast universe. So, I have to include the following scene, in the list of infinite possibilities:

What if after physical death, we have no sensory organs or nervous system, or brain to process and correlate information? No perception. It's over.

Well, if that's a possibility, then I'm not willing to blow this existence. This is the only time I'm gonna be me (this guy I'm in). :lol:

Or, what if next time I'm a blade of grass, or an inert gas, or a piece of space rock? A puppy would be cool if I had a cool way owner like myself :cool:

You get what I'm sayin I think...who knows what the heck happens after death? Another way of looking at it is...have fun and kick ass while you're here...it won't matter anyways, but only to you.

:peace:





It is my opinion that in that type of existence, since you wouldnt be consciously aware, Time would continue to pass instantly until your next conscious experience.


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