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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: Ferather]
    #24143897 - 03/07/17 01:36 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

I forgot to mention, you can make enriched fluids from vegetables, such as carrots, for small scales.
It is possible to use it as a liquid culture or agar additive, even non organic works.


Recipe:

Optional: Add lime for live mycelium transfers.

100g > Carrots, vegetable waste.
200g > Hot kettle water.

Dice or blend the vegetables, add the hot water, mix-mash for 10 minutes.
Strain using a strainer, add kitchen towel to catch the mush.

Assemble and pressure cook, be sterile (clean).


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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: Ferather]
    #24151005 - 03/10/17 10:23 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Here is my wild Summer oyster sample, roughly 5 weeks old, still fresh. Stored in CaCO3 water.
It's in a fridge at roughly 2-4°C, I added a sterilized wooden toothpick for transfer.

       


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    #24151011 - 03/10/17 10:24 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Once the toothpick is colonized, I can remove it and transfer to agar or other medium.


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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: Ferather]
    #24151289 - 03/10/17 12:13 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

hows the cyan coming on?


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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: Mattisfat]
    #24151342 - 03/10/17 12:34 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Still working on the cyans, I have a spore print I also intend to use soon.
For me it's a side project, I'm not really focusing on it, atm.


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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: Ferather]
    #24151377 - 03/10/17 12:45 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

I seems rich compost provides the quick feed that I need (solubles, small units, broken down materials).
Here I am using a cheap compost with added peat, I added CaCO3 water to increase the pH.

The change to pH will cleanse the compost and also breakdown acids further.

   


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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: Ferather]
    #24151382 - 03/10/17 12:47 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

My next test recipe will be WL-Tek as normal with 25g (dry), hydrated compost added, no tea.


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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: Ferather]
    #24154002 - 03/11/17 01:18 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Notable nutrients:

Paper Pellets -- Carbon, Chromium, Copper, Iron, Potassium, Magnesium, Manganese, Phosphorus, Silicon.
Compost -- Sulfur, Carbon, Magnesium, Calcium, Boron, Copper, Iron, Iodine.


Missing, insufficient:

Micro nutrients -- Sodium, Zinc, Selenium.

Vitamins -- Vitamin D, Thiamin, Riboflavin, Niacin, Vitamin B6, Folate, Pantothenic Acid, Biotin, Ascorbic Acid.

Macro nutrients -- Nitrogen.


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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: Ferather]
    #24154004 - 03/11/17 01:19 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Compost also adds small units as I mentioned, allowing the mycelium to populate faster.


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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: Ferather]
    #24160892 - 03/14/17 07:14 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Here is my wild Summer oyster tissue, now about 6 weeks old.
Slowly growing out at a low 2-4°C in CaCO3 water.

   


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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: Ferather]
    #24160923 - 03/14/17 07:35 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

I put my King oyster stunts into CaCO3 water yesterday, they appear to be self cleaning.
The browning due to aborting is disappearing, there is some metabolites.

   


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    #24164217 - 03/15/17 12:34 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

It looks like vegetable extract agar (VEA) is working, I did limited testing with carrot water as a liquid culture.
Another member has messaged me that they had 12 hour success with a homemade VEA recipe.

Said member is still tinkering, but I asked them to post a recipe when ready.


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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: Ferather]
    #24164231 - 03/15/17 12:40 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Here is WL-Tek paper to sugar rich raw carrot (cooked).

   


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    #24164449 - 03/15/17 02:32 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Here I'm trying some cyan spores to mildly enriched tea bags. Tea bags are easy to clean, I'm using a microwave.

I took 800g of hot kettle water, I added 20ml of enrichment tek and 1.5 teaspoons of sucrose.
The two tea bags where added, I stewed with a fork then left it to cool, fully covered.

Once cooled I microwaved for 8 minutes, strained and assembled raging hot.

I'm just waiting for it to cool down before adding spores.

   


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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: Ferather]
    #24164453 - 03/15/17 02:35 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

This is also my first homemade spore syringe from a print. I am using a SAB for assembly.


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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: Ferather]
    #24164844 - 03/15/17 05:31 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Ferather said:
Here is WL-Tek paper to sugar rich raw carrot (cooked).

   





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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: TravelAgency]
    #24166963 - 03/16/17 12:46 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Any vegetable water will work.

Carrot (or peel) looks like a honey or karo LC.
Pea or green veg water is of course green.
Potato (or peel) is more white-clear.

You can also cook wooden toothpicks in your chosen water for testing on agar.
I would add further relevant colour to the peg for identification.


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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: Ferather]
    #24167315 - 03/16/17 03:02 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Data share:

Ergosterol -- [C]28--[H]44--O
Glycogen -- [C]6--[H]10--[O]5


Notes:

Cellulose -- [C]6--[H]10--[O]5 x n, (same as glycogen)
Starch -- [C]6--[H]10--[O]5 x n, (same as glycogen)
Sugar -- [C]n--[H]2n--[O]n, (varies with the sugar)

n = Number of total units linked.


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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: Ferather]
    #24167321 - 03/16/17 03:03 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

This explains why adding carbon [C] to water [H2O] produces basic blocks.


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    #24170200 - 03/17/17 03:10 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Pocket guide updated, enjoy. Link is in my signature.


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