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Hammer92
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Re: Does horse dung grow active mushrooms in the south US? [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
#23876821 - 11/28/16 11:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hammer92 said: Horse pastures are underrated. And cow pastures seem a bit overrated
Horse pastures aren't under rated, a lot of horse owners ride their horses and spray the field for anti fungals and stuff like that. Also a lot of horse pastures are dirt, the horses are fed grain and feed and hay. Therefore it's difficult for mycelium to grow without grass.
Horse pastures are most certainly underrated... Everybody and their brother knows"magic mushrooms=cow fields. But the horse pasture is underestimated. People spraying antifungals? Lmao. U must not know many horse owners. Most are grain fed???! You don't know horses obviously. The parts of horse pastures that are "dirt" are actually the most prime spot... That "dirt" is composted grass horse manure hay and whatever other supplements like grain sweet feed. And the mycelium loves it.
I didn't say most are fed grain i said alot. It has more nutrients than grass and hay. Equestrian centers tend to do that more often. I've owned horses and been to many horse pastures some even right next to a cow field with pan cyans, pan subbs, and cubensis. Also every outdoor tek for shrooms requires hay, so...
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Hammer92 said: Horse pastures are underrated. And cow pastures seem a bit overrated
Horse pastures aren't under rated, a lot of horse owners ride their horses and spray the field for anti fungals and stuff like that. Also a lot of horse pastures are dirt, the horses are fed grain and feed and hay. Therefore it's difficult for mycelium to grow without grass.
Horse pastures are most certainly underrated... Everybody and their brother knows"magic mushrooms=cow fields. But the horse pasture is underestimated. People spraying antifungals? Lmao. U must not know many horse owners. Most are grain fed???! You don't know horses obviously. The parts of horse pastures that are "dirt" are actually the most prime spot... That "dirt" is composted grass horse manure hay and whatever other supplements like grain sweet feed. And the mycelium loves it.
I didn't say most are fed grain i said alot. It has more nutrients than grass and hay. Equestrian centers tend to do that more often. I've owned horses and been to many horse pastures some even right next to a cow field with pan cyans, pan subbs, and cubensis. Also every outdoor tek for shrooms requires hay, so...
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Hammer92 said: Horse pastures are underrated. And cow pastures seem a bit overrated
Horse pastures aren't under rated, a lot of horse owners ride their horses and spray the field for anti fungals and stuff like that. Also a lot of horse pastures are dirt, the horses are fed grain and feed and hay. Therefore it's difficult for mycelium to grow without grass.
Horse pastures are most certainly underrated... Everybody and their brother knows"magic mushrooms=cow fields. But the horse pasture is underestimated. People spraying antifungals? Lmao. U must not know many horse owners. Most are grain fed???! You don't know horses obviously. The parts of horse pastures that are "dirt" are actually the most prime spot... That "dirt" is composted grass horse manure hay and whatever other supplements like grain sweet feed. And the mycelium loves it.
I didn't say most are fed grain i said alot. It has more nutrients than grass and hay. Equestrian centers tend to do that more often. I've owned horses and been to many horse pastures some even right next to a cow field with pan cyans, pan subbs, and cubensis. Also every outdoor tek for shrooms requires hay, so...
This is the dumbest shit I've ever seen someone write on shroomery. Your making no points it's just a bunch of BS about how you think everybody treats horses. We're talking about shrooms here, and they love horse poo
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Re: Does horse dung grow active mushrooms in the south US? [Re: Hammer92]
#23876825 - 11/28/16 11:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Every outdoor tek requires hay!? Why have I grown outdoors without hay? Maybe you don't know what your saying
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Re: Does horse dung grow active mushrooms in the south US? [Re: Hammer92] 1
#23876999 - 11/29/16 01:14 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have solved the riddle. Check out this tutorial I have prepared on looking up info on cubes and horse manure.
Does Psilocybe cubensis grow on horse manure?
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Re: Does horse dung grow active mushrooms in the south US? [Re: Mr Piggy]
#23877231 - 11/29/16 04:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Of P. cubensis, Guzman says: "Gregarious, rarely solitary or scattered, on cow (rarely on horse) dung, sometimes on rich pasture soils"
Stamets says: "Scattered to gregarious on dung of bovines (cattle, oxen, yaks, buffalo), horse, or elephant dung, and on well-manured grounds"
Shroomery (Joust) says: "Solitary or in groups on dung and manure, especially in cattle pastures; widely distributed in the tropics. Psilocybe cubensis are coprophilic, and colonize the dung of large herbivores, most notably cows and other grazing mammals."
Three rather credible sources, I'd say.
Also, looking at the various types of cultivation substrates this species can grow on, I assume it isn't that picky.
Apart from that, OP still has to post some pictures...
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Re: Does horse dung grow active mushrooms in the south US? [Re: Anglerfish]
#23877303 - 11/29/16 05:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Stamets doesn't know what the hell he is talking about! Lol
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Re: Does horse dung grow active mushrooms in the south US? [Re: Bigmarv329]
#23877352 - 11/29/16 06:22 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bigmarv329 said: Stamets doesn't know what the hell he is talking about! Lol
Possibly. Still Guzman doesn't exclude horse dung from the "menu". I really don't see why P. cubensis shouldn't grow from it.
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Re: Does horse dung grow active mushrooms in the south US? [Re: Anglerfish]
#23877495 - 11/29/16 08:20 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm just playing hes the man
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Re: Does horse dung grow active mushrooms in the south US? [Re: Hammer92]
#23877576 - 11/29/16 08:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hammer92 said: Every outdoor tek requires hay!? Why have I grown outdoors without hay? Maybe you don't know what your saying
I have too in fact i am right now. Every written tek i've seen says it requires.
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Re: Does horse dung grow active mushrooms in the south US? [Re: Hammer92]
#23877586 - 11/29/16 08:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Horse pastures are most certainly underrated... Everybody and their brother knows"magic mushrooms=cow fields. But the horse pasture is underestimated. People spraying antifungals? Lmao. U must not know many horse owners. Most are grain fed???! You don't know horses obviously. The parts of horse pastures that are "dirt" are actually the most prime spot... That "dirt" is composted grass horse manure hay and whatever other supplements like grain sweet feed. And the mycelium loves it.
I didn't say most are fed grain i said alot. It has more nutrients than grass and hay. Equestrian centers tend to do that more often. I've owned horses and been to many horse pastures some even right next to a cow field with pan cyans, pan subbs, and cubensis. Also every outdoor tek for shrooms requires hay, so...
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Hammer92 said: Horse pastures are underrated. And cow pastures seem a bit overrated
Horse pastures aren't under rated, a lot of horse owners ride their horses and spray the field for anti fungals and stuff like that. Also a lot of horse pastures are dirt, the horses are fed grain and feed and hay. Therefore it's difficult for mycelium to grow without grass.
Horse pastures are most certainly underrated... Everybody and their brother knows"magic mushrooms=cow fields. But the horse pasture is underestimated. People spraying antifungals? Lmao. U must not know many horse owners. Most are grain fed???! You don't know horses obviously. The parts of horse pastures that are "dirt" are actually the most prime spot... That "dirt" is composted grass horse manure hay and whatever other supplements like grain sweet feed. And the mycelium loves it.
I didn't say most are fed grain i said alot. It has more nutrients than grass and hay. Equestrian centers tend to do that more often. I've owned horses and been to many horse pastures some even right next to a cow field with pan cyans, pan subbs, and cubensis. Also every outdoor tek for shrooms requires hay, so...
This is the dumbest shit I've ever seen someone write on shroomery. Your making no points it's just a bunch of BS about how you think everybody treats horses. We're talking about shrooms here, and they love horse poo
*sigh* i said a lot and that's why in a lot of horse pastures shrooms don't grow. I understand shrooms love horse poo.
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Re: Does horse dung grow active mushrooms in the south US? [Re: Anglerfish]
#23877621 - 11/29/16 09:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bigmarv329 said: Stamets doesn't know what the hell he is talking about! Lol
Possibly. Still Guzman doesn't exclude horse dung from the "menu". I really don't see why P. cubensis shouldn't grow from it.
It definitely prefers cattle dung, but I see it quite often on horse dung and have posted plenty of photos. I find P. cubensis in the stall where the arabian quarter horse I use for work is kept almost every month of the year.
In response to posts mentioned in this thread, fungicides applied in agricultural settings do not hamper mushroom growth whatsoever. The ranch and groves I work on all use it and during the citrus season we will feed cows grapefruit and oranges. My largest hauls have been on fields that I personally fed cattle oranges and applied anti-fungal treatments to the livestock.
Saying that citrus and anti-fungal treatments hamper or in anyway inhibit mushroom growth is blatant misinformation.
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Re: Does horse dung grow active mushrooms in the south US? [Re: MidnightCity]
#23877810 - 11/29/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Grain fed cattle won't produce mushrooms. It's the chemical composition of the feed. It disorientes the natural order of organic food. I've seen cubes growing in a field with both cows and horses but never horses alone. I've never seen anyone let their horses grade strictly on grass as well.
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Re: Does horse dung grow active mushrooms in the south US? [Re: Bigmarv329] 1
#23877822 - 11/29/16 10:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Does horse dung grow active mushrooms in the south US? [Re: Bigmarv329] 1
#23878037 - 11/29/16 11:46 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bigmarv329 said: Grain fed cattle won't produce mushrooms. It's the chemical composition of the feed. It disorientes the natural order of organic food. I've seen cubes growing in a field with both cows and horses but never horses alone. I've never seen anyone let their horses grade strictly on grass as well.
I really hope you're trolling, otherwise I don't even know where to begin with how nonsensical and silly these statements are.
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Re: Does horse dung grow active mushrooms in the south US? [Re: MidnightCity] 1
#23878183 - 11/29/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Don't most people cultivate cubensis on grain?
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Re: Does horse dung grow active mushrooms in the south US? [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
#23878203 - 11/29/16 12:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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maynardjameskeenan said: Don't most people cultivate cubensis on grain?
like hotcakes.
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Hammer92
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Re: Does horse dung grow active mushrooms in the south US? [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
#23878209 - 11/29/16 12:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Too much trolling going on. Cubes don't need cattle, they do fine in good ole horse pastures. In y experience horse pastures are better. May not be the case for everyone, but I don't care lol. I know what I've seen and horse pastures are generally better locations for finding cubensis. The OP asked if "horse dung grows mushrooms in the southeast". Well, while dung lacks the intellect and opposable thumbs to cultivate anything, mushrooms do love to grow in it, around it, ect.
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Re: Does horse dung grow active mushrooms in the south US? [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
#23878220 - 11/29/16 12:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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maynardjameskeenan said: Don't most people cultivate cubensis on grain?
Exactly, that's the first tip off he has no clue what he's talking about. Any type of grass seed is grain. Just like wheat, rice, barley etc.
The rest of what he said makes even less sense. I thought he was kidding at first but after a second look I do believe he is actually that ignorant and uninformed. Which is fine for him but this isn't the place to spread misinformation.
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Re: Does horse dung grow active mushrooms in the south US? [Re: MidnightCity]
#23878230 - 11/29/16 01:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Exactly why I said horse pastures are underrated... Look at how much misinformation and ignorance surrounds people's view of horse pastures, it's unbelievable. They are underrated and just down right lied about.
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Re: Does horse dung grow active mushrooms in the south US? [Re: Hammer92]
#23878249 - 11/29/16 01:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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So in the right climate active Psilocybes and Panaeolus grow from the dung of hoofed grazers. I've heard of cubensis growing for Water buffalo dung in Africa, maybe even elephant. Y'all got sheep in the south?
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Re: Does horse dung grow active mushrooms in the south US? [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
#23878277 - 11/29/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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maynardjameskeenan said: So in the right climate active Psilocybes and Panaeolus grow from the dung of hoofed grazers. I've heard of cubensis growing for Water buffalo dung in Africa, maybe even elephant. Y'all got sheep in the south?
Sure do. Pretty sure they have been around long enough to be considered "native" to Florida.
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