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Re: Why so racist? [Re: qman]
#23875609 - 11/28/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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qman said: There was one black guy in my High School, he was treated great and did outstanding in academics, athletics and socially.
So you hung out with him 24-7 to know this was the case? I'd like to hear his perspective.
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Ya that's just one black guy. If it was a group of black guys would have th community been so open arms?
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qman said: There was one black guy in my High School, he was treated great and did outstanding in academics, athletics and socially.
So you hung out with him 24-7 to know this was the case? I'd like to hear his perspective. 
It's funny because of buddy of mine bumped into his sister who also attended the HS at a bar last year.
My buddy asked her how was it to be the only black person in an all white high school. She was kind of surprised by the question and said she never even thought of it in that manner, but her answer was the experience was just fine and race never played any sort of role.
Also remember this was over 25 years ago, people didn't really get into this racist nonsense like we do today. He and his sister were more "popular" than I was, he did very well in the environment because it was a good high school.
BTW, their mother was white and the father was black.
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Re: Why so racist? [Re: sudly] 2
#23875673 - 11/28/16 04:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ignorance and fear stifle empathy result racism.
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Re: Why so racist? [Re: qman]
#23875689 - 11/28/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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qman said:
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qman said: There was one black guy in my High School, he was treated great and did outstanding in academics, athletics and socially.
So you hung out with him 24-7 to know this was the case? I'd like to hear his perspective. 
It's funny because of buddy of mine bumped into his sister who also attended the HS at a bar last year.
My buddy asked her how was it to be the only black person in an all white high school. She was kind of surprised by the question and said she never even thought of it in that manner, but her answer was the experience was just fine and race never played any sort of role.
Also remember this was over 25 years ago, people didn't really get into this racist nonsense like we do today. He and his sister were more "popular" than I was, he did very well in the environment because it was a good high school.
BTW, their mother was white and the father was black.
Are you in Iowa or the Dakotas?
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You all need to spread the love, progressives are progressive.
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hostileuniverse said: Kids are taught racism by their liberal parents
so that's why liberals dominate the KKK & white nationalist groups. i always wondered about that.
(holy shit, dude)
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Re: Why so racist? [Re: relic]
#23881983 - 11/30/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: Kids are taught racism by their liberal parents
so that's why liberals dominate the KKK & white nationalist groups. i always wondered about that.
(holy shit, dude)
Yeah, because only white people can be racist? Shall we examine "reverse racism"?
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Re: Why so racist? [Re: qman]
#23882109 - 11/30/16 03:40 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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qman said:
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qman said: There was one black guy in my High School, he was treated great and did outstanding in academics, athletics and socially.
So you hung out with him 24-7 to know this was the case? I'd like to hear his perspective. 
It's funny because of buddy of mine bumped into his sister who also attended the HS at a bar last year.
My buddy asked her how was it to be the only black person in an all white high school. She was kind of surprised by the question and said she never even thought of it in that manner, but her answer was the experience was just fine and race never played any sort of role.
Also remember this was over 25 years ago, people didn't really get into this racist nonsense like we do today. He and his sister were more "popular" than I was, he did very well in the environment because it was a good high school.
BTW, their mother was white and the father was black.
this makes perfect sense to me, the race issue is actually, predominantly a class issue imo, with the misfortune blacks have of being almost equivalent to a visible underclass stereo-typically
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Re: Why so racist? [Re: qman] 1
#23882134 - 11/30/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: Kids are taught racism by their liberal parents
so that's why liberals dominate the KKK & white nationalist groups. i always wondered about that.
(holy shit, dude)
Yeah, because only white people can be racist? Shall we examine "reverse racism"? 
sure, we can "examine" reverse racism. but you'll have to go slow with me as i've never seen it, never experienced it, never known anyone to experience it, and never discussed it with anyone credible.
frankly, reverse racism sounds like some fantasy, pussy beta junk that some whiny conservative made up. don't you hate that? conservatives whine so much online. anyway, back on topic. are you sure people who subscribe to this made up thing called reverse racism don't just need to buck up and break their cycle of perpetual victimhood?
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Re: Why so racist? [Re: relic]
#23882235 - 11/30/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: Kids are taught racism by their liberal parents
so that's why liberals dominate the KKK & white nationalist groups. i always wondered about that.
(holy shit, dude)
Yeah, because only white people can be racist? Shall we examine "reverse racism"? 
sure, we can "examine" reverse racism. but you'll have to go slow with me as i've never seen it, never experienced it, never known anyone to experience it, and never discussed it with anyone credible.
frankly, reverse racism sounds like some fantasy, pussy beta junk that some whiny conservative made up. don't you hate that? conservatives whine so much online. anyway, back on topic. are you sure people who subscribe to this made up thing called reverse racism don't just need to buck up and break their cycle of perpetual victimhood?
"i've never seen it"
Are you joking? 
Shall we discuss Affirmative Action and quotas in the academic and employment world?
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Re: Why so racist? [Re: relic]
#23882239 - 11/30/16 04:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Laws here are individualized and specifically targeted at raising the living standards of the aboriginal people "reverse racism". Whether you agree or not with it is a reality here. I'm not a conservative and I do agree with it as a positive step in trying to fix the gaps in eqaulity.
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Re: Why so racist? [Re: Ezuma]
#23882247 - 11/30/16 04:13 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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qman said: There was one black guy in my High School, he was treated great and did outstanding in academics, athletics and socially.
So you hung out with him 24-7 to know this was the case? I'd like to hear his perspective. 
It's funny because of buddy of mine bumped into his sister who also attended the HS at a bar last year.
My buddy asked her how was it to be the only black person in an all white high school. She was kind of surprised by the question and said she never even thought of it in that manner, but her answer was the experience was just fine and race never played any sort of role.
Also remember this was over 25 years ago, people didn't really get into this racist nonsense like we do today. He and his sister were more "popular" than I was, he did very well in the environment because it was a good high school.
BTW, their mother was white and the father was black.
this makes perfect sense to me, the race issue is actually, predominantly a class issue imo, with the misfortune blacks have of being almost equivalent to a visible underclass stereo-typically
Lets not forget, they were outnumbered 500 to 2 in the school, the outcome might be totally different if there were many more blacks at the school, they tend to sabotage each others futures.
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pineninja said: Laws here are individualized and specifically targeted at raising the living standards of the aboriginal people "reverse racism". Whether you agree or not with it is a reality here. I'm not a conservative and I do agree with it as a positive step in trying to fix the gaps in eqaulity.
Shouldn't the goal be equal opportunities instead of equal outcomes? You do realize the people on the receiving end know the difference and adjust their behavior accordingly?
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#23882307 - 11/30/16 04:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I agree. Eqaulity should pertain to opportunity, I never said otherwise though. Here the employment and educational opportunities are unequal.
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#23882345 - 11/30/16 04:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lets not forget, they were outnumbered 500 to 2 in the school, the outcome might be totally different if there were many more blacks at the school, they tend to sabotage each others futures.
 lol, I think the correlation there isn't that blacks put together can't acheive, I think it's more that predominantly black communities are overwhelmingly lower-class, and lower classes tend to underacheive generally (
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Re: Why so racist? [Re: Ezuma]
#23882395 - 11/30/16 05:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lets not forget, they were outnumbered 500 to 2 in the school, the outcome might be totally different if there were many more blacks at the school, they tend to sabotage each others futures.
 lol, I think the correlation there isn't that blacks put together can't acheive, I think it's more that predominantly black communities are overwhelmingly lower-class, and lower classes tend to underacheive generally (
Unfortunately you're wrong, I have spoken to lots of educators and the general consensus is the minorities (black and Hispanics) tend to ridicule other minorities that are "acting white" (taking school seriously and speaking in proper English) in the academic environment.
In fact, many minorities in middle class environments still suffer from underachievement in school, you're trying to find a direct correlation when there isn't one, there are many variables at work.
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Re: Why so racist? [Re: qman] 1
#23884334 - 12/01/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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leveling a playing field that has for so long been purposefully tipped in the other direction is not reverse racism; it's removing built-in barriers in order to allow everyone equal opportunity to succeed. allowing equal opportunity is not the same thing as trying to guaranty equal results.
when a group has been discriminated against for a couple hundred years in academia for instance, it's right to open opportunities for them to succeed (or fail as it may be).
if that's the sort of thing you're calling reverse racism then you've never really experienced first hand racism...or you're just getting into a semantics game. either option is just intellectual dishonesty when boiled down.
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#23884351 - 12/01/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lets not forget, they were outnumbered 500 to 2 in the school, the outcome might be totally different if there were many more blacks at the school, they tend to sabotage each others futures.
 lol, I think the correlation there isn't that blacks put together can't acheive, I think it's more that predominantly black communities are overwhelmingly lower-class, and lower classes tend to underacheive generally (
Unfortunately you're wrong, I have spoken to lots of educators and the general consensus is the minorities (black and Hispanics) tend to ridicule other minorities that are "acting white" (taking school seriously and speaking in proper English) in the academic environment.
In fact, many minorities in middle class environments still suffer from underachievement in school, you're trying to find a direct correlation when there isn't one, there are many variables at work.
i have spoken to lots of educators and the general consensus is the whites (rednecks) tend to ridicule other whites that are "acting like know-it-alls" (taking school seriously and speaking in proper English) in the academic environment.
in fact, many rednecks in rural environments still suffer from underachievement in school, you're trying to find a direct correlation when there isn't one, there are many variables at work.
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Re: Why so racist? [Re: relic]
#23884770 - 12/01/16 02:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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relic said: leveling a playing field that has for so long been purposefully tipped in the other direction is not reverse racism; it's removing built-in barriers in order to allow everyone equal opportunity to succeed. allowing equal opportunity is not the same thing as trying to guaranty equal results.
when a group has been discriminated against for a couple hundred years in academia for instance, it's right to open opportunities for them to succeed (or fail as it may be).
if that's the sort of thing you're calling reverse racism then you've never really experienced first hand racism...or you're just getting into a semantics game. either option is just intellectual dishonesty when boiled down.
"allowing equal opportunity is not the same thing as trying to guaranty equal results"
Actually, when it comes to getting preferential treatment based on race, which both AA and quotas do, it's seeking equal RESULTS. Guess what happens when the quotas aren't met? The iron hand of the government comes in and makes SURE there's equal RESULTS.
"it's right to open opportunities for them to succeed"
I agree, but that's NOT what AA and quotas do. It's mandates equal results regardless of education, experience and talent. That's called racism.
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