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Lovesotters
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Are these Cyans rotting? Safe to dry & eat?
#23873811 - 11/27/16 11:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I left town for a week and came back to check my patch and fear I may have left some of these Cyans too long! I'm a novice so I don't know how to tell if they are good to eat still or will make people sick. Important to note is when I last saw these 5 days ago they were small very dry caps with heavy blue bruising on caps and I wonder if that may have just spread that coloration. They seem relatively firm still. One is missing a large chunk.
Let me know if there are further descriptions I can provide, here are pictures! Last 2 are closeups of my most questionable shroom.
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Re: Are these Cyans rotting? Safe to dry & eat? [Re: Lovesotters] 1
#23873843 - 11/27/16 11:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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They're still okay...but unless you're gunna eat 'em right away I'd get 'em in front of a fan or in a dehydrator pronto.
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Re: Are these Cyans rotting? Safe to dry & eat? [Re: Lovesotters]
#23873885 - 11/27/16 11:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looks gross to me I wouldn't eat those
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Lovesotters
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Re: Are these Cyans rotting? Safe to dry & eat? [Re: Cosmic neutron]
#23873909 - 11/28/16 12:08 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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In the dehydrator now but I remain wary. I read its safe to turn them into tea, though, then discard the mush!
For future reference, does anyone know the distinguishing traits of the cyan going bad/becoming inedible? Is it beneficial to leave those rotting ones in the patch to decompose? And any idea why the caps may have bruised, perhaps the lack on rain in Whatcom County?
Edited by Lovesotters (11/28/16 12:20 AM)
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WhyDidiDoThis
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Re: Are these Cyans rotting? Safe to dry & eat? [Re: Lovesotters]
#23874081 - 11/28/16 02:27 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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think of it as food. you wounldnt eat a fucked up fruit or rotten veggie.
But you can cut around the rot parts. throw the rot pieces in the mulch.
Like cutting around a bruise in fruit or a tiny mold spot on bread.
drying out and re-hydration seem to cause rot fast.
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Re: Are these Cyans rotting? Safe to dry & eat? [Re: WhyDidiDoThis] 1
#23874259 - 11/28/16 06:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Those are totally fine
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Re: Are these Cyans rotting? Safe to dry & eat? [Re: B1977]
#23874486 - 11/28/16 08:25 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wouldn't eat the rotting ones.
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Re: Are these Cyans rotting? Safe to dry & eat? [Re: Mr Piggy]
#23874670 - 11/28/16 09:45 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mr Piggy said: I wouldn't eat the rotting ones.
I agree. In the second picture I'd say from left to right: Yes, yes, no and yes.
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Byrain

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Re: Are these Cyans rotting? Safe to dry & eat? [Re: WhyDidiDoThis]
#23874689 - 11/28/16 09:53 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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WhyDidiDoThis said: Like cutting around a bruise in fruit or a tiny mold spot on bread.
This doesn't really work. You're only cutting around the mold spores. Not the actual fungus which could of colonized throughout the fruit or piece of bread. Of course not all molds are dangerous to eat, but I would not recommend doing so unless you know that to be true.
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Re: Are these Cyans rotting? Safe to dry & eat? [Re: Byrain]
#23874976 - 11/28/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dry 'em out and eat 'em or make tea. They are fine. As thay bruise black it is indicative of psilocin breakdown, so totally black ones wont be as potent, but they wont hurt you or I would have been hurt many times
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Hamra
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Re: Are these Cyans rotting? Safe to dry & eat? [Re: Lovesotters]
#23874987 - 11/28/16 11:43 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Also, in my experience, spread out in front if a strong fan works better than dehydraters - at least the ones I have tried. Maybe if you had a fancy commercial grade one it would be a different story.
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Re: Are these Cyans rotting? Safe to dry & eat? [Re: Hamra]
#23874998 - 11/28/16 11:47 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looking fine man, get dried as quick as possible before they decay further once dried you won't know the difference.
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Byrain

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Re: Are these Cyans rotting? Safe to dry & eat? [Re: Hamra]
#23875073 - 11/28/16 12:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hamra said: Also, in my experience, spread out in front if a strong fan works better than dehydraters - at least the ones I have tried. Maybe if you had a fancy commercial grade one it would be a different story.
I have a ~$100 excalibur dehydrator from an ebay seller which works very well. Its a lot faster, more effective and takes less room than drying fungi with fans.
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Lovesotters
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Re: Are these Cyans rotting? Safe to dry & eat? [Re: Byrain]
#23875091 - 11/28/16 12:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm using a Wal-Mart dehydrator that runs a bit hot at 165 (& I can't find directions on dismantling the heat unit), so I keep the lid off and run a fan across the top to keep it cool. Double fan action!
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Re: Are these Cyans rotting? Safe to dry & eat? [Re: Lovesotters]
#23875107 - 11/28/16 12:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Let it get hot man, the hotter the better as far as dehydrators are concerned
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Lovesotters
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Re: Are these Cyans rotting? Safe to dry & eat? [Re: The Mycologist]
#23875125 - 11/28/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I read it may decrease potency by cooking out the Psilocybin over 100, but it seems like a hotly debated fact on the web. I can't really find any reliable studies supporting either side so wanted to play it safe for now but starting to think I should just let em cook.
Edited by Lovesotters (11/28/16 12:43 PM)
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Cosmic neutron
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Re: Are these Cyans rotting? Safe to dry & eat? [Re: Lovesotters]
#23875250 - 11/28/16 01:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't even know why people were talking about it would you eat a moldy apple or would you eat a moldy piece of cheese the answer lies in really how desperate are you
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Re: Are these Cyans rotting? Safe to dry & eat? [Re: Lovesotters]
#23875266 - 11/28/16 01:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not going to say those cyans are in mint condition but they are still in consumable condition. Just a tiny tad mature and bruised. Who cares man. Still perfect. 
They are still perfect for consumption none the less. Just as good as any consumable cyan.
And if you dry one of those older specimens and compare it to that of a dry specimen that has a bright caramel cap and is perfectly ripe for harvest you wont notice much of a damn difference once dried. In aesthetics and in taste.
As long as you would eat it as a food you can eat it fresh, because that's what it is. Food.
Even if your fussy ass would not eat certain specimens fresh because they are just a tad "over ripe" and your simply fussy, as long as they are not rotten or fucked beyond consumption then you can dry em and they will be consumable. Even if they were on the manky side while they were fresh, they will still be perfectly fine dry. Even to the standards of a fussy.
Dehydrator with heat, highest setting until cracker dry. No exceptions, no debate.
Not to mention that you can inoculate woodchips with rotten specimens.
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Edited by AllDay420 (11/28/16 02:04 PM)
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Re: Are these Cyans rotting? Safe to dry & eat? [Re: AllDay420]
#23875405 - 11/28/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just because Cyans get bruised, black or darkened somehow doesn't mean anything is wrong with them. Usually is just a sign of spores. These ones pictured are perfectly fine to eat, if you don't like the way they look throw them in a tea with lemon. I've picked cyans that are covered in black on the caps, you can simply scrape it away with a piece of cloth.. it's just spores usually. If you can't handle eating some spores don't eat them in the first place
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Byrain

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Re: Are these Cyans rotting? Safe to dry & eat? [Re: Lovesotters]
#23875527 - 11/28/16 03:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lovesotters said: I read it may decrease potency by cooking out the Psilocybin over 100, but it seems like a hotly debated fact on the web. I can't really find any reliable studies supporting either side so wanted to play it safe for now but starting to think I should just let em cook.
It should not decrease potency in any noticeable amount. People have successfully cooked Psilocybe species at much higher temperatures and still tripped normally. The chemical is pretty stable and will not break down until it reaches very high temperatures.
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Lovesotters
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Re: Are these Cyans rotting? Safe to dry & eat? [Re: Byrain]
#23875706 - 11/28/16 04:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks so much everyone! Sorry for the noob question but it's my first time finding a patch and I wanted to make sure I didn't get sick! They're now cracker dry and ready to go.
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Byrain

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Re: Are these Cyans rotting? Safe to dry & eat? [Re: Lovesotters]
#23875728 - 11/28/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lovesotters said: Sorry for the noob question but it's my first time finding a patch and I wanted to make sure I didn't get sick!
Feel free to ask away, as long as you are willing to learn someone here will be willing to help.
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