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Chitihurrishrooms
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Why did this pop up so fast. Cobweb? Pics
#23872346 - 11/27/16 02:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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So I cased these Monday night. Rye grains with 50/50 plus 10% of the peat of calcium carbonate, gypsum and 5% oyster shell. Friday night I patched everything was looking alright. Put the cover back over them for 36 hours. And opened today and covered in what appears to be cobweb. I have shelves built inside my "Martha" so there's 3 shelves lined with poly that I fruited to. 1 shelf has no cobweb. Other two are covered wall to wall. In 36 hours went from looking fine during patching to covered in cobweb or what appears to be. What the fuck. Will h202 even work on that?
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Thats trichoderma not cobweb IMO. H2o2 won't work. Sorry.
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Chitihurrishrooms
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Re: Why did this pop up so fast. Cobweb? Pics [Re: enlightenment]
#23872430 - 11/27/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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How do I have wall to wall trich in under a week on my casing... I've never had a casing get anything yet. And my first huge grow is covered in it...
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Those look like pics of mars
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Because your first huge grow was contaminated before it ever left the jars. Sorry mate. Try again.
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cronicr said: Those look like pics of mars
They really do lol
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Chitihurrishrooms said: How do I have wall to wall trich in under a week on my casing... I've never had a casing get anything yet. And my first huge grow is covered in it...
It's either the spawn or the substrate. Did you do proper pasteurization?
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Re: Why did this pop up so fast. Cobweb? Pics [Re: Moabfighter]
#23872467 - 11/27/16 03:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ya I don't think so. 1 shelf is fine. Also I spawned a bunch of monos from the same bags that are fruiting on the shelf and those are all fine too. The mycelium that's growing through looks healthy. It looks like someone sprayed trich or cobweb all over two shelves
Edited by Chitihurrishrooms (11/27/16 03:35 PM)
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Re: Why did this pop up so fast. Cobweb? Pics [Re: Tira]
#23872476 - 11/27/16 03:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes I pasteurized. My previous casings have all been successful
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Something in your spawn is no good
If it trichs before you get a flush, it was your spawn. Period.
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Re: Why did this pop up so fast. Cobweb? Pics [Re: Moabfighter]
#23872522 - 11/27/16 03:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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36 hours is very short to get trich caused by spawn but your grow is fucked for some reason. Could be the casing layer not the spawn... I wonder why because you raised the PH. That should make it resistant against trich.
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Chitihurrishrooms said:
It looks like someone sprayed trich or cobweb all over two shelves
Well, do you have any enemies?
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Re: Why did this pop up so fast. Cobweb? Pics [Re: Moabfighter]
#23872578 - 11/27/16 04:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ya I dunno where I went wrong. Every bag i used looked solid white smelled good etc. Survived being shaken up and showed no sign of contam. I did have two bags stall and I didn't use them. The bags that colonized early were fruited in monos and one is already on its second flush. Casing was done right and pasteurized correctly. 1 shelf is contam free but two shelves are covered wall to wall pretty much. And when I patched them 36 hours ago everything looked fine. Like the entire casing wall to wall went from looking fine to covered in trich in 36 hours. Unbelievable...
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Re: Why did this pop up so fast. Cobweb? Pics [Re: Moabfighter]
#23872627 - 11/27/16 04:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Any suggestions on what I do next? I have monos in the same Martha nothing has lids everything is open. Some are second flush some are pinning. Got 1 big shelf that's about to pin. And 2 big shelves covered in trich. Scrap the two shelves of trich obviously. But I feel like it will have spread to everything already. Like arnt these casings supposed to be resistant to this stuff. Why do my monos all survive and the shelves all trich out when they were literally from the same batch of bags. Fuck me
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PinPornProducer
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Can you get better pictures?
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LocN9ne
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Re: Why did this pop up so fast. Cobweb? Pics [Re: enlightenment]
#23872679 - 11/27/16 04:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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enlightenment said: 36 hours is very short to get trich caused by spawn but your grow is fucked for some reason.
If it came from the spawn it's been there all along, the 36 hours is irrelevant... I'm gonna go with improper pasteurization... Walk us through how you pasteurized your casing.
Nvm... You seem confident... But the spawn is suspect since you had 2 bags stall, thats not a good sign... Other than that it was the pasteurization got botched.
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Edited by LocN9ne (11/27/16 04:36 PM)
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Re: Why did this pop up so fast. Cobweb? Pics [Re: PinPornProducer]
#23872706 - 11/27/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I see a lot of cobweb mold, not sure I see any trich though. Those darker areas I'm not sure if it's some other kind of mold or more cobweb coming in
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Re: Why did this pop up so fast. Cobweb? Pics [Re: LocN9ne]
#23872724 - 11/27/16 04:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I got this tek off here somewhere. I'm really starting to think it was botched pasteurization now that I'm replaying the sequence of events in my mind, how the third shelf is fine etc. I use this tote hooked up to a steam cleaner put the casing in bags and drop them in this tote for an hour and a half. Previous casings I was doing much less and the last shelfs casing I went over a lot on the time so that's starting to make sense...
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How do you check the core temperatures?
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Chitihurrishrooms
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If everything went even half assed smoothly I was expecting 20+ lbs dry lol. Shoulda stuck with mass monos... but I'm definitely thinking its the casing pasteurization now. The monos that were spawned from the same bags all turned out fine and those were cases using the same techniques however much smaller amounts were pasteurized at a time. I'm thinking that's where the mistake was made. I really don't think it was the spawn. Also these were cased covered for 3 days and patched and covered again for 36 hours. So been about 5 days total now. And the mycelium was growing through just beautifully everywhere. What a tragedy
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Re: Why did this pop up so fast. Cobweb? Pics [Re: LocN9ne]
#23872743 - 11/27/16 04:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ugh I don't I just was feeling that giving it extra time was enough... worked so far with the smaller amounts I was doing per run... pretty dumb of me
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