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First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub (progress updates with pictures)
#23871749 - 11/27/16 11:27 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hi all,
New to cultivation, did my research, used the search function and mapped out what I was going to do and got on it.
Used Pastywhyte's Pasty Plate Tek and used a B+ print with the TigerDrop 1.0 tek.. (I missed the fact there was the 2.0/TicTacToe drop) using a SAB made with the help of SpitBallJedi's SAB guide into jars that I prepped Rye Berries with SpitBallJedi's Rye Berry Prep guide.
I have a monotub ready to go (SpitBallJedi again), I plan on prepping bulk spawn using FrankHorrigan's bulk spawn guide here "soon".
Things seemed to have gone smoothly, I did make some newb mistakes along the way:
- I either did not pour enough agar in my plates and/or my platform in the PC wasn't level enough (I'm thinking this is really the case) causing the agar to pool on one side of the rounds causing for uneven growth.
- I think my agar had too much nutrients (Karo) in them. From what I could find in the search function, grainy looking agar/agar with too much nutrients can slow initial growth and make your mycelium "fuzzy" looking, which mine was both slow and fuzzy, I was worried I had a contaminate but it appears fine.

- Multiple inoculation points on the plates themselves which caused multiple points of growth (no pictures of this step) which if I had been isolating would have made it difficult to get clean cuts.
- Did not isolate from the plates and transplants on new plates to get the best growth possible. I've got supplies coming to start a new batch of agar and do this again for the next batch.
- Due to uneven plates I did not get maximum growth per round on the agar (since agar surface area was around half the size of the round), so after weighing the risks I decided to use two rounds per jar of rye berries when I did the Tiger Drop.
I did make a "control" Pasty Plate as well as a "control" rye berry jar just to make sure my sterilization technique was good.. Both have no signs of any growth as of today.
All that said, as far as I can tell my rye berry jars are coming along fine, in fact, one of them I feel may be getting close to spawn ready status but I wanted some input, I feel the others are only a day or two behind.
My initial growth on the agar was slow, very slow. Once I transferred to the jars I shook hard to break the agar up and there was a few days of no activity and within a week it was going nuts. One jar (#6) was ready for a shake (maybe 25-30%), I shook it good and hard and it only took a day, maybe two, to bounce back and growth went crazy after that.
The other 5 jars were just a day or two behind, I've since shook them and they too bounced back after about a day and are coming along nicely (they are obviously not ready for spawn).
Any time estimates or other critiquing is appreciated. I'm a retired old fucker, so I've got plenty of time to use to get it right.
Example Pasty Plate:

Plates ready for PC:

RB Jars after PC:

Jars after Tiger Drop 1.0:

Jar #6:

Example of Jars 1-5:

Thanks.
Edited by OldNuts (12/23/16 09:47 AM)
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub (criticism/time estimate on jars requested) [Re: OldNuts]
#23871787 - 11/27/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey man congrats, You're doing an excellent job!! The members here will appreciate and respect that you did your research before coming here to ask questions about easily answerable stuff!
Youe spawn looks great man, congratulations!! Keep up the good work you retired old fucker! I'm so jealous lol....
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub (criticism/time estimate on jars requested) [Re: Peteyboy]
#23871855 - 11/27/16 12:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks! I can't lie, it's nice to be able to work on whatever projects I want to. Appreciate the words of encouragement, it's been fun!
Shroomery is a fantastic resource. I can understand some peoples issues with the search function but once you get used to it, it's easy to filter out (usually) what you're not looking for. I lurked for quite awhile before I decided to take this on, love the personality here.
Not sure how much you've done RB/WBS bulk, but, any idea on how far off is #6 from being ready to spawn? I can use estimates on this, then use that to figure out how far 1-5 still have to go.
Based on other photos I've seen through the forums and the jars growth the last few days, I think it's only a couple days out at most. I may have to throw it in the fridge so the others can catch up.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub (criticism/time estimate on jars requested) [Re: OldNuts]
#23871873 - 11/27/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would consider jar 6 fully colonized....But you dont have to refrigerate it just leave it be while the others catch up! It will just continue to colonize and consolidate the grain. There is no real rush to spawn once you have clean spawn(unless your personally in a rush). Once all your jars are finished you can prep your sub. Or you can spawn the first jar to a mini mono and watch that and learn while the rest of your jars catch up!
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub (criticism/time estimate on jars requested) [Re: OldNuts]
#23871875 - 11/27/16 12:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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First off, great first post! Probably the best one I've seen in the three years I've been in the community.
Secondly, is no one else worried about the black spots on those jars? From what I can see, they are either burned grains, a trick of the light caused by the photo, or (hopefully not) black mould. I've had black mould before on jars a few times and it started out looking just like that, with small black spots tucked just behind or in between grains.
Anyone else care to chime in? Hopefully. Just seeing things.
In response to your question, assuming that Jar #6 is contam-free, I would say it's ready in about two days.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub (criticism/time estimate on jars requested) [Re: Peteyboy]
#23871881 - 11/27/16 12:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Peteyboy said: There is no real rush to spawn once you have clean spawn(unless your personally in a rush).
This. I have left jars fully colonized for up to two weeks before breaking them up and spawning them to bulk, due to a lack of time and/or space. Once they're good to go, there's no rush to spawn to bulk immediately.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub (criticism/time estimate on jars requested) [Re: benis12]
#23871886 - 11/27/16 12:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think those black specks are shadows cast by the lighting overhead.
There is a thread in mush cult right now where a guy left his jars for months and they still look A OK!
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23871708
Edited by Peteyboy (11/27/16 12:20 PM)
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: Peteyboy]
#23871896 - 11/27/16 12:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Peteyboy said: I would consider jar 6 fully colonized....But you dont have to refrigerate it just leave it be while the others catch up! It will just continue to colonize and consolidate the grain. There is no real rush to spawn once you have clean spawn(unless your personally in a rush). Once all your jars are finished you can prep your sub. Or you can spawn the first jar to a mini mono and watch that and learn while the rest of your jars catch up!
Got it! For now I'll plan on just letting it be while the others catch up and throw them all into the mono at once. I'll be starting another batch of Pasty Plates next week likely and will be more cautious with my agar recipe and do some isolation transfers to see if it ups the game any.
I have a feeling the tub will grow quick, if the jars are any indication.
Thanks for the insight!
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: Peteyboy]
#23871922 - 11/27/16 12:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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benis12 said: Secondly, is no one else worried about the black spots on those jars? From what I can see, they are either burned grains, a trick of the light caused by the photo, or (hopefully not) black mould. I've had black mould before on jars a few times and it started out looking just like that, with small black spots tucked just behind or in between grains.
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Peteyboy said: I think those black specks are shadows cast by the lighting overhead.
Those black specks are the grains (they're actually a combo of black/normal RB color splotches), they started out that color out of the package, even before PC. I didn't pick them out (only the floaters when I was rinsing) as it seemed like they were thoroughly interspersed with the other berries, just not a whole lot of them.
btw, thanks for the input on #6, benis, (and the compliment on my post).
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
#23871949 - 11/27/16 12:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I soak my grains in coffee, It probaby ends up at like a 1/2 to 2/3 strength coffee. I just brew a pot of coffee add that then run two more cycles with same ground coffee and its gets progressively clearer by the third pot. But it usually makes my grains really dark, and I always have black grains everytime. I wouldnt sweat it brotha!
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: Peteyboy]
#23872068 - 11/27/16 01:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looks good so far 
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23872139 - 11/27/16 01:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Looks good so far 

And now you know without a doubt!
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: Peteyboy]
#23872297 - 11/27/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Looks good so far 

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Peteyboy said:
And now you know without a doubt! 
When the legend themself stops in and says it's going alright, I guess I can breath easy 
Thanks Pasty, always have appreciated the info you give to the teaming hordes. I'll use this as my log and will update once there's something to update about. If all goes as I expect it to based on the current rate, next weekend I'll throw it into the tub, maybe see fruits by Christmas.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
#23872304 - 11/27/16 02:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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off to a good start.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: MudaFuka]
#23911777 - 12/09/16 11:03 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Alright, a bit late updating and still need to upload the pictures but here's where I'm at:
On Sunday (the 4th) I spawned to the pasteurized coir/verm as planned and I think I did great.
Opened each jar and smelled, very-very strong mushroom smell, like eating a fresh dried one but in smell only. No off smells on any of the jars. Really made my mouth water and made me anticipate harvest time.
Followed the tek exactly, had no problems. Shook the jars to break them up and then soaked for about 20 minutes, drained, layered with the substrate, mixed well.. then evened it out. Holes are taped on the monotub, have a 7000k adjustable light set at 6500k for 12/12.
It's now day 5 and there's mycelium growth completely covering the damn thing with moisture beading up a little on the sides of the monotub. It's in a room that ranges from 68 to 72'ish degrees.
How "dangerous" is it to open the lid to snap a picture?
I've read differing opinions in it. I'm confident my process is on point, but, I do have a few animals in the house and that causes me concern (although reading RR's work, it appears that doesn't matter).
I'm guessing I'll be ready to fruit in a little over a week. Pictures may help some of you pro's give me a better estimate, I'll try to get those tomorrow - easier if I can pull off the lid, but didn't want to mess with it without expert opinion.
What concerns me is, lets say I was to not be around when it's ready to swap into fruiting conditions - will it be "ok" to delay adjusting the monotub to fruiting conditions by about 3-4 days?
And that's that, I'll post pictures tomorrow and I'll go from there. Will probably prep a new batch of agar while I'm at it.
Thanks all.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
#23911796 - 12/09/16 11:13 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Your ready to fruit now. Zero danger opening the lid to take pics. I would personally wait two more days to fruit just cause 7 is my lucky number and there's no harm in waiting. (There's also no harm in fruiting) Sounds like your tub is on track brotha now let's see some fuckin pics!!
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: ComebackKid]
#23911800 - 12/09/16 11:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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ComebackKid said: Your ready to fruit now. Zero danger opening the lid to take pics. I would personally wait two more days to fruit just cause 7 is my lucky number and there's no harm in waiting. (There's also no harm in fruiting) Sounds like your tub is on track brotha now let's see some fuckin pics!!

Thanks.. shit, I may upload them tonight.. I'm just tired and got this bottle of 21yo scotch I'm working on. 
I know it differs from tub to tub, to environment to environment and strain to strain, but how long does it take to go from setting to fruiting conditions to the first flush?
Appreciate the input!
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
#23911826 - 12/09/16 11:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ah fuck it, here we go.
Spawn before throwing in the tub:

Spawn during my soak:

After my mix:

Tub ready to go:

Shitty picture of the tub with the light on as of 12-06-2016 (two days after setting up the tub):

I'll snap a pic with the lid off tonight to get ya'lls expert opinion. Thanks.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
#23911844 - 12/09/16 11:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'd say 5 days is pretty on track when you got clean spawn. Strain to strain usually doesn't make much of a difference. I've had tubs fruit 3 days after introducing fruiting and my last tubs took a full week. But your colonization by the sounds of it is healthy. Sounds like a promising tub! Those pics look good too!
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: ComebackKid]
#23911943 - 12/10/16 12:55 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Popped the lid, maybe didn't colonize as much as it looked through the tub sides.
Thoughts?

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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
#23912409 - 12/10/16 08:10 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Looks good man. You could fruit that now if you wanted to. Personally I would wait for a couple more days
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: ComebackKid]
#23912418 - 12/10/16 08:14 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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id fruit it now. but you could wait a day or so.. up to you
good job on doing it right! always refreshing to see a first grown done right.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: mushboy]
#23912439 - 12/10/16 08:23 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You could fruit it or not. It really doesn't matter. You can fruit right at spawning or wait until you see pins.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: MudaFuka]
#23912581 - 12/10/16 09:43 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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ComebackKid said: Looks good man. You could fruit that now if you wanted to. Personally I would wait for a couple more days 
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mushboy said: id fruit it now. but you could wait a day or so.. up to you
good job on doing it right! always refreshing to see a first grown done right.
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MudaFuka said: You could fruit it or not. It really doesn't matter. You can fruit right at spawning or wait until you see pins.
Thanks for the input. Any estimate on how long it goes from fruiting to 1st flush (a general idea)?
And how "ok" is it if I was to keep it taped up for another 10-11 days?
Appreciate the kind words. This shit is fun.
Edited by OldNuts (12/10/16 09:45 AM)
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
#23912601 - 12/10/16 09:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I wouldnt keep it taped up for ten more days...I would expose it to fruiting conditions when you see pins forming, however many days that may be from the looks of it proabbly just a couple...Those little babies will want fresh air one they poke their heads through the sub lol...
It should take about a week sometimes two, give or take a few days to get a flush after exposing to fruiting conditions...obv there are many variables for this timeline though.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: Peteyboy]
#23912634 - 12/10/16 10:05 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Peteyboy said: I wouldnt keep it taped up for ten more days...I would expose it to fruiting conditions when you see pins forming, however many days that may be from the looks of it proabbly just a couple...Those little babies will want fresh air one they poke their heads through the sub lol...
It should take about a week sometimes two, give or take a few days to get a flush after exposing to fruiting conditions...obv there are many variables for this timeline though.
Thanks.
Yep, I know it depends on lots of variables, wasn't expecting an exact answer.
OK, I think I've got my plan now.. Thanks! I think I'll give in a day, maybe two, set it for fruiting conditions on Monday or Tuesday (taking account if pins have developed).
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
#23912715 - 12/10/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I read something a while back where someone let consolidate for a longer period of time and they claimed to have more potent and prolific fruits. Blackout posted the link a couple weeks ago I just forget where it was...
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: ComebackKid]
#23912877 - 12/10/16 11:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I believe it was primalsoup who did that but, he was also doing it with PE so hard to say if the potency was just from the consolidation or the genetics (with PE I'm leaning to genetics).
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23913202 - 12/10/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah that would definitely make sense
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: ComebackKid]
#23913261 - 12/10/16 02:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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dont keep it taped. a tub/tray left all sealed up will start to fruit anyway(IME) like this guy... sat in a closet all sealed up while i was out of town.
 tray fruited nicely. gave about 1 oz dry first flush.1 quart spawn.
dont know about the potency thing but i will mention i did just 2 grams from that tray and i stopped a 10 year old HARD AND HEAVY drinking problem nearly instantly. they were mentally intense. of course i had not tripped in 10 years so who knows.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: mushboy]
#23913272 - 12/10/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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mushboy said: dont keep it taped. a tub/tray left all sealed up will start to fruit anyway(IME) like this guy... sat in a closet all sealed up while i was out of town.
 tray fruited nicely. gave about 1 oz dry first flush.1 quart spawn.
dont know about the potency thing but i will mention i did just 2 grams from that tray and i stopped a 10 year old HARD AND HEAVY drinking problem nearly instantly. they were mentally intense. of course i had not tripped in 10 years so who knows.
Congratulations man!! It must feel great to be liberated from alcoholism! Gotta love the power of psychedelics!
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23913534 - 12/10/16 03:41 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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mushboy said: dont keep it taped. a tub/tray left all sealed up will start to fruit anyway(IME) like this guy... sat in a closet all sealed up while i was out of town.
 tray fruited nicely. gave about 1 oz dry first flush.1 quart spawn.
dont know about the potency thing but i will mention i did just 2 grams from that tray and i stopped a 10 year old HARD AND HEAVY drinking problem nearly instantly. they were mentally intense. of course i had not tripped in 10 years so who knows.
Congrats, my dad was on the sauce pretty hard back when I was a kid, I think weed is what got him to kick it finally, although, I think other substances in this category may have assisted. Hard to say.
Thanks for the insight, I'm just worried about letting it fruit while I'm not here - I'm only gone for a few days and I think it'll be just fine as long as I set the tub to fruiting conditions mon/tues.
I also hate not being able to check on it daily to see "what's happening".
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Pastywhyte said: I believe it was primalsoup who did that but, he was also doing it with PE so hard to say if the potency was just from the consolidation or the genetics (with PE I'm leaning to genetics).
PE seems to pretty popular, I'm considering doing that next - why the mass popularity?
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
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The penis varieties fuck ya up. APE PEU and PE are the holy trinity of shrooms making people gay.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
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Pastywhyte said: The penis varieties fuck ya up. APE PEU and PE are the holy trinity of shrooms making people gay.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Pastywhyte said: The penis varieties fuck ya up. APE PEU and PE are the holy trinity of shrooms making people gay.
I'm too fucking old to worry about ending up loving cock, sounds like it's worth the risk.
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Grow penis and all you gonna be thinking about is eating and growing cock. Nothing to be ashamed of it happens to us all.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Pastywhyte said: Grow penis and all you gonna be thinking about is eating and growing cock. Nothing to be ashamed of it happens to us all.

Agreed. Plus then the woman and I would have one more thing in common.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
#23914339 - 12/10/16 07:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think it looks awsome if your going to case id do it now and fruit if not id wait a day and unduce fruiting and welcome to shroomery and congrats on your first grow youll make an awsome addition to our twizted lil family!keep up the good work(oops damn on my phone! didnt see this whole second page)
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: mushboy]
#23914355 - 12/10/16 07:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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mushboy said: dont keep it taped. a tub/tray left all sealed up will start to fruit anyway(IME) like this guy... sat in a closet all sealed up while i was out of town.
 tray fruited nicely. gave about 1 oz dry first flush.1 quart spawn.
dont know about the potency thing but i will mention i did just 2 grams from that tray and i stopped a 10 year old HARD AND HEAVY drinking problem nearly instantly. they were mentally intense. of course i had not tripped in 10 years so who knows.
Wow mush it has helped me tackle my heroin addiction i think plant medicine is very underestimated and need to be further explored in addiction!
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: PieEyed-Messiah]
#23927824 - 12/14/16 09:53 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Update, day 10 after being thrown into the tub, pics at the bottom. Still taped up, lot of condensation on the sides of the tub. Air in the tub is moist and very mushroomy and earthy smelling; no sweetness, spoiled or off smelling but I'm wanting some expert eyes on the growth.
Now, been reading about keeping the tub taped up for a longer period and it seems like it's a mixed crowd... some people say it leads to more potent/bigger fruit and others saying you get minimal fruit. Any additional thoughts to this?
I may be more comfortable putting it into fruiting mode after the 19th (5'ish days from now) as I'm going to have some contractors coming in and out of the house doing some work and don't want to put in the polyfill just to throw it in the back of a closet where there may be minimal airflow around it.. But.. if that won't hurt it none..
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
#23927834 - 12/14/16 09:59 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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If that were mine i would be fruiting it..
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: cronicr]
#23927836 - 12/14/16 10:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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cronicr said: If that were mine i would be fruiting it..
And you're the pro.
First couple days being in a closet going to hurt it any? Again, worried 'bout airflow.
Thanks C.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
#23927839 - 12/14/16 10:03 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Naw it will be fine just adjust your poly as needed
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: cronicr]
#23927922 - 12/14/16 10:36 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Fruit that stuff bro
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: peptorepto]
#23927954 - 12/14/16 10:47 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Looks like it's starting to form knots already.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: MudaFuka]
#23931215 - 12/15/16 11:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Alright, you fine gentleman. Pictures below.
Got my tub just like I like my woman, loose up top, tight on the bottom.
Used FrankHorrigan's "How to dial in your monotubs like a boss" guide to get my rig setup. Top ones are just enough to stay in, almost falling out. Bottom ones are tight as fuck.
I think I asked before, but, what's a general time line to first flush after this? Again, I realize there's a lot of variables in play.
Secondly, can anyone point out a specific potential "knot"? I tried using the Search function and couldn't find anything specific or anything that looks similar.. Different strains/genetics maybe.




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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
#23931300 - 12/16/16 12:19 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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This was faster then editing the picture you uploaded.

not my pic btw
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Intelligentxfruit2 said: This was faster then editing the picture you uploaded.

not my pic btw
Nice stuff, thanks.
It's been 16'ish hours since I put in the poly and shit is happening. First, there's what I suspect to be pins forming already in about 6 spots (this is my own uneducated guess based on others pictures) and what you've identified has knots has greatly increased in density all over, but specifically in the corners.
My tub has moisture beads on the walls except around the loose filled holes, there's a good 1-1.5" dry ring around them and about a 1/8 - 1/4" dry ring around the bottom tightly packed holes.
No pictures yet, will have to try to grab some later today. I'm excited, had to share.
This is fun shit.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
#23932725 - 12/16/16 02:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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In a day or 2 the children will be popping up looking for a hug lol
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: keifnnugs]
#23945079 - 12/21/16 01:22 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hello ladies and gents..
Day 5 after putting the tub into fruit mode, it's now out of the closet so hoping it may help accelerate a little. Pics below.
There's a ton of .. Pins? I think. They're everywhere.
If I've read correctly, harvest time is right before or just when the veil breaks, correct?
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
#23945082 - 12/21/16 01:30 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Those babies need air asap!
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: Intelligentxfruit]
#23945086 - 12/21/16 01:32 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Intelligentxfruit said: Those babies need air asap!
Thinking loosen up the top poly?
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
#23945094 - 12/21/16 01:39 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah if its tight, your top should be fairly loose. But how tight is the bottom? If its been like that for 5 days it doesn't seem enough air is coming through
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: Intelligentxfruit]
#23945096 - 12/21/16 01:42 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Intelligentxfruit said: Yeah if its tight, your top should be fairly loose. But how tight is the bottom? If its been like that for 5 days it doesn't seem enough air is coming through
Bottom is as tight as I could make it (seems most of what info I could find was there's no such thing as "too tight".)
Top could likely be loosened up a little, but not much.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
#23945099 - 12/21/16 01:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Idk man I think there might be a thing as too stuffed by how it looks lol
I never have to mess with my monotubs so I don't have much trouble shooting advice, maybe a tc can come drop some knowledge bombs
where is the tub now? I know you said you took it out of the closet but maybe its against a wall or something?
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: Intelligentxfruit]
#23945604 - 12/21/16 09:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Intelligentxfruit said: Idk man I think there might be a thing as too stuffed by how it looks lol
I never have to mess with my monotubs so I don't have much trouble shooting advice, maybe a tc can come drop some knowledge bombs
where is the tub now? I know you said you took it out of the closet but maybe its against a wall or something?
It's in the middle of a room now that averages 68 - 72F degrees with a 7000K adjustable light set to 6500K 12/12.
I did adjust the poly last night, both top and bottom holes, to allow a bit more airflow.. I'm guessing it'll take a day or so to see the impact?
Thanks.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
#23946647 - 12/21/16 04:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just checked on them since adjusting the poly - I'd say they're about double the size in girth and maybe 25%'ish taller.
Some have pronounced caps starting to form. Looks like a garden of peni. Will wait for tonight to take some pictures to get a good 24 hour comparison.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
#23948642 - 12/22/16 10:08 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Update: 12 hours shy of 7 days since going into fruiting conditions. Pictures below.
Not a huge difference since last night, moisture is clinging to the walls but since adjusting the poly there's not a lot of moisture beads around the poly holes. There's some dew-drops on the surface of the substrate but nothing off colored, all clear. Smells less like soil and more like mushrooms, but still earthy.





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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
#23948692 - 12/22/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Earthy smell is often a sign of trich. Those pins look a bit like trich pins as well.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23948907 - 12/22/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Earthy smell is often a sign of trich. Those pins look a bit like trich pins as well.
Well that sounds shitty. Any tips on how to mitigate, or just ride it out?
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
#23948952 - 12/22/16 11:58 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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There is no stopping trich. If you have it there ain't much you can do. Salt small spots to halt it for a day to finish the flush is the best that can be done if it shows.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23948994 - 12/22/16 12:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: There is no stopping trich. If you have it there ain't much you can do. Salt small spots to halt it for a day to finish the flush is the best that can be done if it shows.
Copy that.
Did some searching in the forums and found conflicting information on salting - additionally, color tends to be green? Or are there different strains of trich?
Looking at the tub, I'm not seeing anything off colored - everything looks about the same texture and color, other than the new sprouting mushrooms (was wondering if the pic was showing you something off color due to lighting). Multiple posts say trich smells "sour", but I'm not noting any of that. Smells pleasant to me. But I also know jack-shit and may be being noob-hopeful.
I expected the fruit to grow more explosively than it has been, but, different genetics produce different results I guess.
Thanks for the info pasty.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
#23949056 - 12/22/16 12:28 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Trich starts out white but its spores are green. Trich does not smell sour, earthy or minty are most common. Sour is bacteria which often is what leads to trich.
Salting is looked down on by many as unnecessary risk and they prescribe to just toss. I am mostly in agreement with that. Absolutely never ever cut trich out, that is often a disaster as it spreads trich mycelium fragments which are far worse than trich spores.
Careful what you read when doing research. Really old posts or posts by stubborn noobs can be misleading. Check the date and ratings of people posting opinions. TC's are often pretty reliable for good info.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23949103 - 12/22/16 12:55 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The pins remind me of my tub that ended up having pink mold. Fingers crossed you don't see contamination man
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: ComebackKid]
#23949327 - 12/22/16 02:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just got my daily knowledge bomb from Pastywhyte...Pasty you da man!
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23949607 - 12/22/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Trich starts out white but its spores are green. Trich does not smell sour, earthy or minty are most common. Sour is bacteria which often is what leads to trich.
Salting is looked down on by many as unnecessary risk and they prescribe to just toss. I am mostly in agreement with that. Absolutely never ever cut trich out, that is often a disaster as it spreads trich mycelium fragments which are far worse than trich spores.
Careful what you read when doing research. Really old posts or posts by stubborn noobs can be misleading. Check the date and ratings of people posting opinions. TC's are often pretty reliable for good info.
Thanks Pasty.. and I'm critical about all I read, try to cross reference when possible and prefer TC input above all. And aye, lot of old information.
That said, I think I'll ride it out for now and see what happens as some of the mushies are getting sizeable. Will be on the lookout for any color or smell changes.
Regardless, even if there ends up being a contaminate I think I'll be able to get a decent flush out of it with what's sprung already.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
#23949675 - 12/22/16 05:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yep keep it till you know for sure
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: ComebackKid]
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ComebackKid said: The pins remind me of my tub that ended up having pink mold. Fingers crossed you don't see contamination man
Thanks bro'seph!
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
#23951208 - 12/23/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Day 8 of fruiting. They're continuing to get thicker and longer (my woman just asks me how my dick garden is doing), and there's a few new ones starting here and there.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
#23956628 - 12/25/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Merry Christmas shroom-ites.
Some updated shots, smell and color seems on and caps are opening up. May pick a few tonight. Based on what I could find, the stem can be up to about 4" and the cap about 2" across? I've got a few flirting with that.. And I'll be honest - excited to sample.
I've been reading of people eating them fresh - something new to me. May give it a try.
Been trying to peek under the caps to see the status of the veils, but too hard to see at their current height.










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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
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Eat them fresh, you won't be disappointed. I'd go with 35 grams wet to test potency
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: Psilosoulful]
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Eat them fresh, you won't be disappointed. I'd go with 35 grams wet to test potency
I think the last time I ate shrooms, which was awhile ago, I ingested about 5 or 6g dry. Had an amazing time. But I'm a fairly laid back fellow to begin with.
I see a lot of argument through lots of posts about potency between immature/mature fruits.. is it that big of a difference?
Man, I may be in for a good evening.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
#23957963 - 12/26/16 09:53 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quick update, will likely have pictures later but I think it's harvest time.
Cherry picked about 60g wet last night, glad I did as even though they're stubby the veils had broken. After doing more research and comparing the growth of the "mature" fruits and the build up of mycelium on the stem, I think I've got more information to adjust my current tub for it's 2nd flush as well as my 2nd tub.
I believe my tub, even after adjusting the poly, didn't have enough FAE and I think when I initially mixed my bulk substrate that it ended up a bit too moist. Starting fruiting in the closet probably didn't help.
Last night after picking some of the fruits I adjusted the poly to allow more FAE and woke up this morning to some huge increase in fruit size and a lot more spread caps with veils opening.
Utilized 35g of the wet fruits last night, threw the small amount remaining into the dehydrator. Was an epic, EPIC, Christmas with the little woman.
Quick look this morning, it appears even the smaller fruits have doubled in size overnight, I'll harvest in a bit and try to post pictures and total 1st flush weight later on.
Thank you all for your stopping by to give input - pasty/tiger/frankhorrigan/spitballjedi especially, you gave me the initial knowledge to get it done.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
#23957990 - 12/26/16 10:11 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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AWESOME BROTHER!!!! I have yet to try some wet fruits...Seems everytime i harvest, MRL does not want to bend and give me a free evening lol...Congrats my man, glad to see it was successful for you!!! That makes me very happy!
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: Peteyboy]
#23958023 - 12/26/16 10:29 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Peteyboy said: AWESOME BROTHER!!!! I have yet to try some wet fruits...Seems everytime i harvest, MRL does not want to bend and give me a free evening lol...Congrats my man, glad to see it was successful for you!!! That makes me very happy!

Give it a shot, I actually found the fresh to be more enjoyable while eating (less shit getting stuck in your teeth). I definitely could have used more, but it was a test run for potency and was not disappointed. I prefer a more intense vacation, but, had 6 hours of heaven off a small fraction of the entire crop so I can't complain.
Like I said, pics to come.
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Right on! Awesomene thread. I'm interested to see how much the first flush weighs out to.
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First flush total, (small harvest of 60g + remainder of 1st flush) wet: 854g
Definitely bruised them a bit at first while learning how to harvest correctly, took a bit of substrate with them every now and then, but they cleaned up alright. Small fruits, in general, but lots of them.. Not a bad 1st run. Even the smallest of the small had their veils broken, like I said, I think I had a bit too much moisture and not enough air flow. Learning...
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Niceeee!! How many total quarts of bulk sub did you use for this grow? Post the dry weight whenever you get em all dehydrated! Looks awesome!
My first tray ever is pinning righy now:

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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: snawwz]
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Actually, was incorrect..919g total wet 1st flush, because I also ate another 65g fresh <3
854g wet turned into 73g dry. 2nd flush is starting to come in, have lots of pins forming and some defined fruits formed/growing after soaking the substrate for a few hours the other night.
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My first tray ever is pinning righy now:
 
Very nice, sir, hope it fruits well! I used 6 quarts of spawn with 6 quarts of substrate for my tub (1:1).
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OldNuts said: Actually, was incorrect..919g total wet 1st flush, because I also ate another 65g fresh <3
854g wet turned into 73g dry. 2nd flush is starting to come in, have lots of pins forming and some defined fruits formed/growing after soaking the substrate for a few hours the other night.
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snawwz said: Niceeee!! How many total quarts of bulk sub did you use for this grow? Post the dry weight whenever you get em all dehydrated! Looks awesome!
My first tray ever is pinning righy now:
 
Very nice, sir, hope it fruits well! I used 6 quarts of spawn with 6 quarts of substrate for my tub (1:1).
Awesome!! Thanks for the update. I'm very interested to see the stats of the wet/dry weights compared to how much sub you used. I just have a little 5 quart tray going, and so far it's looking pretty sweet! Here's a pic from about an hour or 2 ago:

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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: snawwz]
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
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OldNuts said: First flush total, (small harvest of 60g + remainder of 1st flush) wet: 854g
Definitely bruised them a bit at first while learning how to harvest correctly, took a bit of substrate with them every now and then, but they cleaned up alright. Small fruits, in general, but lots of them.. Not a bad 1st run. Even the smallest of the small had their veils broken, like I said, I think I had a bit too much moisture and not enough air flow. Learning...
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Looking good OldNuts, Nice meaty stems  
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: TheDuder]
#23964263 - 12/28/16 11:14 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm not sure if anyone else mentioned this. But you were using a fan about 5ft away from you mono weren't you? If not you'd want it blowing up against the same wall that the mono is against on low and you want it running 24/7. Don't point it towards the tub directly.
Those fruits looked like they didn't reach potential due to lack of FAE like you mentioned, you can see the fuzzy feet which is a tell tale sign. Just normal airflow in a room I don't think would suffice. A fan is required.
For my first mono I grew B+ and they tend to fruit pretty big some of mine were almost touching the inside of the lid especially on the 2nd flush.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: Dabrit]
#23964265 - 12/28/16 11:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I never run a fan. Ever.
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Pastywhyte said: I never run a fan. Ever.
Huh??.... I'm just going off Franks tek which is what the guy said he was using for his grow. I guess it all depends on the amount of FAE in the room itself and if there are windows open providing airflow etc.
I just know by looking at the tub it doesn't look anything like my own B+ mono. I had giant fruits using a fan on low 24/7.
Unfortunately they were duds but they sure looked nice lol.
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Frank ran a set and forget setup with really tight poly making a fan important. He also had a more reasonable RH in his house than I do in mine. We all need to dial in differently depending on our specific location and how much time we can devote to our grows. What works great for one person will be an utter disaster for someone else. That's why we stress reading a substrate to see what it needs rather than try to use one size fits all approaches. If I run a fan it dries my whole tub out.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: Dabrit]
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: snawwz]
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I run a fan and use loose polly but I also mist my monos regularly. There are definitely many ways to skin a cat.
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Pastywhyte said: Frank ran a set and forget setup with really tight poly making a fan important. He also had a more reasonable RH in his house than I do in mine. We all need to dial in differently depending on our specific location and how much time we can devote to our grows. What works great for one person will be an utter disaster for someone else. That's why we stress reading a substrate to see what it needs rather than try to use one size fits all approaches. If I run a fan it dries my whole tub out.
No fair enough, without knowing the location of where the OP is growing or the layout of his grow room and it's access to FAE it's hard to say what his needs maybe. But the fuzzy feet do seem to suggest lack of FAE
I'm pretty sure I'm located somewhere which I'm pretty sure has about the same climate as where you are however the issue I have is my grow room doesn't have a wide open concept making access to FAE an issue so I use a fan. Being the noob that I am and just starting out I don't yet have a vast space to do things yet but hopefully in the future.
In terms of judging things by the substrate I did notice things were starting to dry up during the 2nd flush so misted a little more and move the fan a little farther away.
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Yes duds shitty genetics I guess or hidden contaminates in the spawn( used direct inoculation via spore syringe)
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Sometimes fuzzy feet are just fuzzy feet. With short fat fruits like those I don't think FAE is an issue. When you do use a fan. Be sure to point it away from your grow. You just want to create air movement in the room.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: MudaFuka]
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MudaFuka said: Sometimes fuzzy feet are just fuzzy feet. With short fat fruits like those I don't think FAE is an issue. When you do use a fan. Be sure to point it away from your grow. You just want to create air movement in the room.
Again I'm just going by what Franks tek suggested which was having it blow up against the wall about 5ft away from the tub not blowing towards it.
Maybe for my new tubs on the go I'll try your method cheers.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: Dabrit]
#23964357 - 12/28/16 11:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah blowing at the wall is cool. Just not at the tub. When I had my tubs in a closet I kept a small fan blowing at the back wall of the closet.
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MudaFuka said: Yeah blowing at the wall is cool. Just not at the tub. When I had my tubs in a closet I kept a small fan blowing at the back wall of the closet.
Word.
Yeah I guess in a closet FAE would be limited and definitely would need a fan running.
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Pastywhyte said: Frank ran a set and forget setup with really tight poly making a fan important. He also had a more reasonable RH in his house than I do in mine. We all need to dial in differently depending on our specific location and how much time we can devote to our grows. What works great for one person will be an utter disaster for someone else. That's why we stress reading a substrate to see what it needs rather than try to use one size fits all approaches. If I run a fan it dries my whole tub out.
No fair enough, without knowing the location of where the OP is growing or the layout of his grow room and it's access to FAE it's hard to say what his needs maybe. But the fuzzy feet do seem to suggest lack of FAE
I'm pretty sure I'm located somewhere which I'm pretty sure has about the same climate as where you are however the issue I have is my grow room doesn't have a wide open concept making access to FAE an issue so I use a fan. Being the noob that I am and just starting out I don't yet have a vast space to do things yet but hopefully in the future.
In terms of judging things by the substrate I did notice things were starting to dry up during the 2nd flush so misted a little more and move the fan a little farther away.
You live in the land of high humidity and whale farts. I live in a frozen wasteland and would give my left nut to be your neighbor.
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Pastywhyte said: Frank ran a set and forget setup with really tight poly making a fan important. He also had a more reasonable RH in his house than I do in mine. We all need to dial in differently depending on our specific location and how much time we can devote to our grows. What works great for one person will be an utter disaster for someone else. That's why we stress reading a substrate to see what it needs rather than try to use one size fits all approaches. If I run a fan it dries my whole tub out.
No fair enough, without knowing the location of where the OP is growing or the layout of his grow room and it's access to FAE it's hard to say what his needs maybe. But the fuzzy feet do seem to suggest lack of FAE
I'm pretty sure I'm located somewhere which I'm pretty sure has about the same climate as where you are however the issue I have is my grow room doesn't have a wide open concept making access to FAE an issue so I use a fan. Being the noob that I am and just starting out I don't yet have a vast space to do things yet but hopefully in the future.
In terms of judging things by the substrate I did notice things were starting to dry up during the 2nd flush so misted a little more and move the fan a little farther away.
You live in the land of high humidity and whale farts. I live in a frozen wasteland and would give my left nut to be your neighbor.
Haha yeah I'm pretty blessed to be sure. Wasn't always this lucky though used to live in Calgary and I know what a true winter is that's for sure.
Sorry when I said I'm pretty sure I live somewhere where the climate was similar I got you confused with another well known TC who's also in the Pacific Northwest.
It's actually been a lot colder this winter and we've actually had snow that has stuck around for longet than a day and sub zero temps lol.
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MudaFuka said: Calgary doesn't get real winters.
They are not as bad as they used to be global warming for sure is a factor as I noticed the duration of cold snaps decreasing through the years. However I remember one winter it got down to -45 without the windchill if that's not a real winter I would hate to think what is...Perhaps just being dipped in liquid nitrogen!?!
Chinooks do help in Calgary though
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I lived in Calgary about 10 years ago. They get a few cold snaps here and there but they never last more than a few weeks. I live in Manitoba now and used to work 6 hours north of Edmonton. I'm used to seeing temps like that last for months. Moste winters I'd give my left nut to live out west.
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MudaFuka said: I lived in Calgary about 10 years ago. They get a few cold snaps here and there but they never last more than a few weeks. I live in Manitoba now and used to work 6 hours north of Edmonton. I'm used to seeing temps like that last for months. Moste winters I'd give my left nut to live out west.
Yeah it can be brutal up there.
Still compared to where I live now Calgary is a frozen tundra. It's also a head fuck due to the chinooks you'll start thinking winter is ending when you get a week of plus 10...then a week later -30 and your car won't start....FUCK
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MudaFuka said: I lived in Calgary about 10 years ago. They get a few cold snaps here and there but they never last more than a few weeks. I live in Manitoba now and used to work 6 hours north of Edmonton. I'm used to seeing temps like that last for months. Moste winters I'd give my left nut to live out west.
Yeah it can be brutal up there.
Still compared to where I live now Calgary is a frozen tundra. It's also a head fuck due to the chinooks you'll start thinking winter is ending when you get a week of plus 10...then a week later -30 and your car won't start....FUCK
Damnnn. Humbles me that I live in sunny FL where it's like 70 rn 
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Pastywhyte said: Frank ran a set and forget setup with really tight poly making a fan important. He also had a more reasonable RH in his house than I do in mine. We all need to dial in differently depending on our specific location and how much time we can devote to our grows. What works great for one person will be an utter disaster for someone else. That's why we stress reading a substrate to see what it needs rather than try to use one size fits all approaches. If I run a fan it dries my whole tub out.
I think this hits the nail on the head. May only be my first grow, but, my house is very air tight, the room the tub was in gets almost 0 circulation even with the door open.
I also live in a very, very cold and very dry environment. So, I think I need to loosen up the poly greatly (as I slowly dialed it in during the 2nd half of the 1st flush coming in) and mist a couple times a day to make up for evaporation (which is what I'm doing as of yesterday and I'm already seeing some rapid expansion of the mycelium and some pins forming).
My next grow, I'll likely not pack the poly as tight as I did this time around and see how it goes, I'll have a fan ready just in case. I thought initially my substrate being too wet may have been part of the issue but in hindsight my theory now is if I do it up the same way but have more airflow and just monitor how moist the sub is, I can get better results.
So, a lesson for me. People argue about "the best way", the problem is, as you've stated, we all are in different climates/environments. The variables that we deal with will change how we approach our grow.. In a lot of those discussions, all sides of the argument are probably correct.
Frank's set and forget, just won't work for me to get the best results I think so now it's time for a little trial and error. Gave me a great starting place though!
I got a decent flush, 2nd one seems to be coming along, I'll use that for my foundation and tweak a few things and see how the next one comes along.
Again, appreciate the passion you all have and the input you give. I may be an old fucker but I've embraced the internet fully since the early 90's and this, on the whole, is a damn fine group.
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MudaFuka said: Sometimes fuzzy feet are just fuzzy feet. With short fat fruits like those I don't think FAE is an issue. When you do use a fan. Be sure to point it away from your grow. You just want to create air movement in the room.
True. And they still tasted good. Just want to maximize potential.
I think FAE was a problem at the start - it spent 5 days in a closet and barely had pins. If I had been running a fan (pointed at the wall as you've mentioned), I'm betting I'd have more explosive growth. Or looser poly in the room it went into after those 5 days.
But that's my newbie outlook, trying it will be what tells me if I'm right or wrong on that theory.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
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More FAE is always good. Give your tubs as much fresh air as possible without drying them out. I use very loose or sometimes no polly in my monos. It means I have to mist but for me the extra FAE IS worth it.
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Pastywhyte said: Frank ran a set and forget setup with really tight poly making a fan important. He also had a more reasonable RH in his house than I do in mine. We all need to dial in differently depending on our specific location and how much time we can devote to our grows. What works great for one person will be an utter disaster for someone else. That's why we stress reading a substrate to see what it needs rather than try to use one size fits all approaches. If I run a fan it dries my whole tub out.
I think this hits the nail on the head. May only be my first grow, but, my house is very air tight, the room the tub was in gets almost 0 circulation even with the door open.
I also live in a very, very cold and very dry environment. So, I think I need to loosen up the poly greatly (as I slowly dialed it in during the 2nd half of the 1st flush coming in) and mist a couple times a day to make up for evaporation (which is what I'm doing as of yesterday and I'm already seeing some rapid expansion of the mycelium and some pins forming).
My next grow, I'll likely not pack the poly as tight as I did this time around and see how it goes, I'll have a fan ready just in case. I thought initially my substrate being too wet may have been part of the issue but in hindsight my theory now is if I do it up the same way but have more airflow and just monitor how moist the sub is, I can get better results.
So, a lesson for me. People argue about "the best way", the problem is, as you've stated, we all are in different climates/environments. The variables that we deal with will change how we approach our grow.. In a lot of those discussions, all sides of the argument are probably correct.
Frank's set and forget, just won't work for me to get the best results I think so now it's time for a little trial and error. Gave me a great starting place though!
I got a decent flush, 2nd one seems to be coming along, I'll use that for my foundation and tweak a few things and see how the next one comes along.
Again, appreciate the passion you all have and the input you give. I may be an old fucker but I've embraced the internet fully since the early 90's and this, on the whole, is a damn fine group. 
I'm sure Pasty will come in here and comment pretty soon and he's the guy you should really trust on this. However if your grow room has zero air flow and you have an " airtight" house then FAE is gonna be an issue even though you live in a dry climate I'd still recommend using a fan to help increase your FAE. If you do this still keep your bottom holes stuffed tight and have loose poly in the top two holes. This way the tub retains moisture at the surface level of the substrate while still allowing decent FAE to come through the upper holes. I wouldn't recommend loosening up all the poly and using a fan however as this will for sure dry out the substrate.
If you do introduce a fan maybe just have it on low and a fair ways away from the tub pointed at the same wall it's up against but not at the tub, or maybe just pointed into the corner of the room away from the tub. Especially if the room your growing it in has a number of obstacles obstructing airflow such as pieces of furniture etc. With B+ its very common to get large tall fruits which can touch the lid of your mono if dialed in right.
Genetics do vary from variety to variety but if you read the description of B+ on the various vendor sponsor sites they usually describe it as a large fruiter with Stipes averaging between 15-20cm long and caps between 2.5cm to 7.5cm. I'm betting if you get more air into the equation you're gonna start getting larger sized fruits and somewhere between 6-8oz on First Flush and second flush typically has even larger sized fruits.
If you're still concerned about the substrate drying out you could always just pull out one piece of the tight stuffed poly in one of the bottom holes once in a while and then use a spray bottle to mist through the hole onto the surface level of the substrate to help retain humidity(Obviously stuff the poly nice and tight once done spraying)
This way you don't have to open up the top lid risking losing an unnecessary amount of humidity.
My two cents for what it's worth.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: Dabrit]
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The tub is designed to circulate air on its own. If your tub is dialed in properly it shouldn't matter if you have a fan in a room wit little to no air circulation.
I keep my tubs in a small room with the door closed and the only time I'm in there is to make transfers or check on the growth once in a while
Although like that MudaFuka said! More FAE the better so a fan can be good, but you have to make sure your mono is dialed in for a fan! Or you're compensating by misting more often
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: ComebackKid]
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ComebackKid said: The tub is designed to circulate air on its own. If your tub is dialed in properly it shouldn't matter if you have a fan in a room wit little to no air circulation.
I keep my tubs in a room with the door closed and the only time I'm in there is to make transfers or check on the growth once in a while
So you're saying you don't use a fan ever either? I guess another factor would be if you have furnaced heating or not. If you do you obviously have a vent somewhere pumping warm fresh air into the room somewhere where as if you live in an old ghetto house like mine I just have an electric radiator which pumps zero air. And having a window open in the winter time is obviously gonna lead to less than ideal grow temps.
I dunno, I'm now wondering whereabouts Frank was located and what sort of climate. Cause I followed his tek to the T and my monotub was a prolific fruiter using a fan like he recommended. Maybe good genetics, maybe just good luck.
I'm just kinda curious though as to how using a fan would be a detriment in a room which has zero airflow? I get that he lives in a dry climate but stuffing the poly tighter in the bottom holes would help stop the substrate from drying out no?
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: Dabrit] 1
#23967926 - 12/30/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Comeback nailed it. The tub cycles the air on its own via the heat generated by the sub. Insanemike did some tests a year or so ago and the heat generated by a simple coir verm sub is enormous. Even more is generated with things like straw or manure in the mix. Only time I would run a fan is if I was doing a closet grow and I had the poly dialed in super tight. Even then the risk of drying is big.
I always dial holes in less if I want more FAE and a casing can really help if you live in a dry climate. One thing to note is that the more O2 you have in the tub, the more heat is generated due to increased metabolic action. With azurs fruit and case at spawning I often found the condensation got out of hand even if the casing got overrun.
There is no one way to do it. Best thing to do is keep your conditions in mind and respond to what the sub wants. Give the organisim what it needs, not what you think it should have.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23967962 - 12/30/16 11:53 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Comeback nailed it. The tub cycles the air on its own via the heat generated by the sub. Insanemike did some tests a year or so ago and the heat generated by a simple coir verm sub is enormous. Even more is generated with things like straw or manure in the mix. Only time I would run a fan is if I was doing a closet grow and I had the poly dialed in super tight. Even then the risk of drying is big.
I always dial holes in less if I want more FAE and a casing can really help if you live in a dry climate. One thing to note is that the more O2 you have in the tub, the more heat is generated due to increased metabolic action. With azurs fruit and case at spawning I often found the condensation got out of hand even if the casing got overrun.
There is no one way to do it. Best thing to do is keep your conditions in mind and respond to what the sub wants. Give the organisim what it needs, not what you think it should have.
Today something new was learnt.
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Thanks Pasty.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: Dabrit] 1
#23968048 - 12/30/16 12:33 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Another knowledge bomb dropped on us by the fungi sensai...
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23968298 - 12/30/16 02:41 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Comeback nailed it. The tub cycles the air on its own via the heat generated by the sub. Insanemike did some tests a year or so ago and the heat generated by a simple coir verm sub is enormous. Even more is generated with things like straw or manure in the mix. Only time I would run a fan is if I was doing a closet grow and I had the poly dialed in super tight. Even then the risk of drying is big.
I always dial holes in less if I want more FAE and a casing can really help if you live in a dry climate. One thing to note is that the more O2 you have in the tub, the more heat is generated due to increased metabolic action. With azurs fruit and case at spawning I often found the condensation got out of hand even if the casing got overrun.
There is no one way to do it. Best thing to do is keep your conditions in mind and respond to what the sub wants. Give the organisim what it needs, not what you think it should have.
Will keep all this in mind as I try to dial in my process. Thanks Pasty <3
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
#24077368 - 02/09/17 12:49 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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OldNuts said: Will keep all this in mind as I try to dial in my process. Thanks pasty <3
Don't know what happened.. Probably newb errors from the start, but no 2nd flush. Had a couple stragglers (after adjusting for more FAE the stragglers were larger in size, just less than half a dozen maybe?), but that was it.
Tub was recycled and I've got agar going for the next round. Will call this one closed and will update with a new thread for my next go around.
I appreciate everyones help, here's to the next and more bountiful harvest.
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Re: First Grow - B+ Pasty Plates > Rye Berries > Monotub [Re: OldNuts]
#24179571 - 03/21/17 06:30 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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What size tub did you use?
Id be interested to see a second attempt from you.
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