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voodoochild1000
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Re: DMT.... maybe I'm not as hardcore as I thought... [Re: Kinshino]
#23877540 - 11/29/16 08:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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xzylocybin said: DMT isn't about "getting some rad visuals" or "dancing with entities" Sounds like you are using it in an egotistical and frivolous way, makes sense that it is fucking with you.
This is the truth
Use DMT alone for curiosity of the inner self.
Go dance on MDMA 
I agree.... but I don't think I'm being egotistical or frivolous.... that's some Bullshit assumption ...... I was simply stating what happened... I take things seriously and respect all substances...
Yeah I don't know where that guy got that assumption. Maybe he misinterpreted your approach and thought you weren't serious.
You did say you might try them on shrooms, and you should. Being on shrooms and smoking dmt is one of the best combos. Instead of just diving straight in the deep end, it's like you're in the shallow end and gently swim towards the deep. It's not as hard and confusing on the mind. I'm sure Bill_Oreilly can agree. 
... that's what I'm thinking. Do a smaller dose may be .025-.050 zone at tail end of trip...mmmmmmaybe....
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voodoochild1000
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Re: DMT.... maybe I'm not as hardcore as I thought... [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#23877556 - 11/29/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: DMT aint nothin' to fuck with!
DMT kicks everyones ass, doesnt matter how prepared u think u are, it destroys all who face it, without mercy.

OMG...totally....
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Re: DMT.... maybe I'm not as hardcore as I thought... [Re: voodoochild1000]
#23877858 - 11/29/16 10:31 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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voodoochild1000 said: ... that's what I'm thinking. Do a smaller dose may be .025-.050 zone at tail end of trip...mmmmmmaybe....
Yeah, or like I said, do a small rip that doesn't take off, wait a minute then load a fatty. Even that tiny step up gets your brain primed. I don't know that I'd want to deal with the post-flight heart racing in the middle of a mushy trip, but that's just me.
If you do ever manage to get it just right, you can have a DMT experience where if you close your eyes you get the breakthrough experience of unfolding hyperspace without utter and complete dissolution of awareness/logical thought process and that is really nice, mellow and pleasant. I have only gotten that perfect dose once though, it's usually either a fizzle or balls to the wall. Maybe with tiny doses on mushrooms it is easier to hit that sweet spot.
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Re: DMT.... maybe I'm not as hardcore as I thought... [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
#23881440 - 11/30/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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One question voodoo when you did mushrooms in high doses before did you get sucked into the tryptamine circus inhabited by all those crazy and often clownish/creepy entities?
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Re: DMT.... maybe I'm not as hardcore as I thought... [Re: wolf8312]
#23881452 - 11/30/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I want to see these clowns or elves everyone is talking about!!
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Re: DMT.... maybe I'm not as hardcore as I thought... [Re: topdog82]
#23883208 - 11/30/16 10:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Also; at least for me, taking xanax, GHB or alcohol (never all at once) helped me ease into the experience. some people are against that. but if I got the pre flight jitters, then getting G'ed out helped a lot. I have heard mdma has a positive effect in that regard
this is true for me also, I usually wont even touch the shit with a 10 foot pole nowadays without a benzo first... zopiclone is the best IMO, it's not a benzo really, sorta like ambien... I get far more from the experience if I take some of that first, and it tends to be a lot less uncomfortable on take off.
I really don't care if people find that 'impure' or whatever... the best experiences I've ever had on DMT are with a bit of benzos (or something similar) in my system first.
MDMA is a bit iffy for me, I had one really good experience mixing dmt with it, and one that blew me so far out of the fucking water I don't think I really ever fully came back
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Re: DMT.... maybe I'm not as hardcore as I thought... [Re: LuSiD9]
#23883291 - 11/30/16 10:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hahaha oh man...when you say you don't think you ever fully came back...what effects are you experiencing?
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Re: DMT.... maybe I'm not as hardcore as I thought... [Re: Peteyboy]
#23883837 - 12/01/16 07:51 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Its hard to prepare for a DMT trip, but the best advice I can give is just let it happen. Nothing will stop it from happening and it happens fast. Just let it wash over you and take you. Your mind will still remain fairly lucid and sober but I find that instant full body/mind euphoria you get kills almost any type of anxiety. Its the most loving beautiful feeling I have ever had.
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Re: DMT.... maybe I'm not as hardcore as I thought... [Re: SonicTitan]
#23883841 - 12/01/16 08:02 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Love. Love. Love. Turn on. Enjoy. Love. A toy. Child's play.
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Re: DMT.... maybe I'm not as hardcore as I thought... [Re: WhoManBeing]
#23883846 - 12/01/16 08:05 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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All's well me bell. Ring ring da to. On and on. That's you.
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Re: DMT.... maybe I'm not as hardcore as I thought... [Re: SonicTitan]
#23884112 - 12/01/16 10:18 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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SonicTitan said: Its hard to prepare for a DMT trip, but the best advice I can give is just let it happen. Nothing will stop it from happening and it happens fast. Just let it wash over you and take you. Your mind will still remain fairly lucid and sober but I find that instant full body/mind euphoria you get kills almost any type of anxiety. Its the most loving beautiful feeling I have ever had.
Yeah, for me, pre trip and lift off aren't so bad, during a breakthrough I'm literally physically incapacitated, frozen to the spot and there's nothing to do but submit to the experience, plus there's not really any way to "hang on" to any illusions, they're just gone, it's after the breakthrough has passed, when the shock of it all has triggered a massive release of cortisol, adrenaline and endorphin and my whole body is shaking like I just got in a fight with a wildcat or jumped out of an airplane without a parachute that I find unpleasant. That's when I pop a K-pin and lie down, take deep breaths and try to slow my heart rate. It's not mental anxiety so much as a primordial, visceral fear response triggered deep in the brain from a what the mind perceives as a near death experience. I'm sure if you're a high-sensation seeking person who thrives on high risk behaviors and your natural fear response is low then DMT is the shit. For those of us with higher sensitivity to stimuli, it is just far too much stimulation.
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Re: DMT.... maybe I'm not as hardcore as I thought... [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
#23884119 - 12/01/16 10:20 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wow that was an awesome description, and made total sense...Glad I'm a thrill seeker!!
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voodoochild1000
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Re: DMT.... maybe I'm not as hardcore as I thought... [Re: wolf8312]
#23884535 - 12/01/16 01:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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wolf8312 said: One question voodoo when you did mushrooms in high doses before did you get sucked into the tryptamine circus inhabited by all those crazy and often clownish/creepy entities?
....never....nothing close....
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voodoochild1000
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Re: DMT.... maybe I'm not as hardcore as I thought... [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
#23884545 - 12/01/16 01:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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SonicTitan said: Its hard to prepare for a DMT trip, but the best advice I can give is just let it happen. Nothing will stop it from happening and it happens fast. Just let it wash over you and take you. Your mind will still remain fairly lucid and sober but I find that instant full body/mind euphoria you get kills almost any type of anxiety. Its the most loving beautiful feeling I have ever had.
Yeah, for me, pre trip and lift off aren't so bad, during a breakthrough I'm literally physically incapacitated, frozen to the spot and there's nothing to do but submit to the experience, plus there's not really any way to "hang on" to any illusions, they're just gone, it's after the breakthrough has passed, when the shock of it all has triggered a massive release of cortisol, adrenaline and endorphin and my whole body is shaking like I just got in a fight with a wildcat or jumped out of an airplane without a parachute that I find unpleasant. That's when I pop a K-pin and lie down, take deep breaths and try to slow my heart rate. It's not mental anxiety so much as a primordial, visceral fear response triggered deep in the brain from a what the mind perceives as a near death experience. I'm sure if you're a high-sensation seeking person who thrives on high risk behaviors and your natural fear response is low then DMT is the shit. For those of us with higher sensitivity to stimuli, it is just far too much stimulation.
PRIMAL FEAR....omg!....everything else was obliterated....no me...no thoughts...just what was happening and so much primal fear....it's the only thing that remains "human"
-------------------- ....."So Great!"....-Me on 1.5mg LSD ...."We don't need this" -Larkin in response to my "just picked wild LSD!" post
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voodoochild1000
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Re: DMT.... maybe I'm not as hardcore as I thought... [Re: Peteyboy]
#23884546 - 12/01/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Peteyboy said: Wow that was an awesome description, and made total sense...Glad I'm a thrill seeker!!
....use caution....
-------------------- ....."So Great!"....-Me on 1.5mg LSD ...."We don't need this" -Larkin in response to my "just picked wild LSD!" post
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Re: DMT.... maybe I'm not as hardcore as I thought... [Re: WhoManBeing]
#23884552 - 12/01/16 01:47 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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WhoManBeing said: All's well me bell. Ring ring da to. On and on. That's you.
Ha ha!...hit me up man....I'm in Eugene!
-------------------- ....."So Great!"....-Me on 1.5mg LSD ...."We don't need this" -Larkin in response to my "just picked wild LSD!" post
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Re: DMT.... maybe I'm not as hardcore as I thought... [Re: voodoochild1000]
#23886205 - 12/01/16 11:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Personally I very much disliked the effects of both DMT and Changa when I tried 'em two years ago. I'd been driven back to psychedelics after more than ten years because of my mom dying and my family kinda falling apart.
First of all, I disliked the body load. And second of all, the dmt brought with it the most intense feeling of grieving imaginable...this was two years after my mom died. That said, everytime I smoked it, even when I'd just do a little bit (and hate it), the after-effects were such that it helped my process of grieving immensely. In fact, between the mushrooms and the DMT, and the three month break from life to hunt mushrooms and extract dmt generally, I credit the whole thing with more or less saving my life.
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Re: DMT.... maybe I'm not as hardcore as I thought... [Re: DavidReishi]
#23886810 - 12/02/16 07:49 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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This is why I really enjoy changa. It's much more relaxing and ramping up to the breakthrough isn't so chaotic. I highly recommend changa to anyone experiencing anxiety with DMT.
I also think experiences where your just on the edge of the hole are difficult. Once you breakthrough it's hard to feel any anxiety. There's no feelings really. Just being. That's my experience anyway.
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Re: DMT.... maybe I'm not as hardcore as I thought... [Re: toader123]
#23886847 - 12/02/16 08:23 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I wanna make up some changa...does anyone have any reccomendations?
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Re: DMT.... maybe I'm not as hardcore as I thought... [Re: Peteyboy]
#23886885 - 12/02/16 08:43 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Peteyboy said: I wanna make up some changa...does anyone have any reccomendations?
I'd point you to the dmt-nexus for recipes, but my one and only experiment with this was infusing harmine, harmaline and dmt on damiana. It's quite a lovely mix. Only had a quite small quantity to play with and unfortunately no more dmt in sight at the moment. Speaking of changa, has anyone tried using melatonin as a smokeable with harmalas without dmt? It's got an interesting calming effect and I have found it nice to smoke before bedtime.
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